Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Locked thread
Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Uranium Phoenix posted:

Through participating in elections as an alternative to the two corporate parties, we can give voice to various demands or issues that are actually important.

History would tend to prove otherwise, except in cases where one main party was so weakened as to not run at all.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Uranium Phoenix posted:

I don't mean the third party will necessarily win (though occasionally they do) especially in lovely FPTP system awash with corporate money, but that they will change the conversation. The Democrats adopting the silver currency as their issue after the populist party gave voice to it is a rather famous one. A recent one would be Kshama Sawant and Socialist Alternative making a $15/hour minimum wage the focus of Seattle politics. It is not, unfortunately, a left-wing only phenomenon. The Tea Party has dragged the Republicans right on various issues too, after all.

To be clear, elections should not be the goal of a third party or a movement, only another tactic.

I know what you're saying, you're still wrong. Third parties as a way to get a message across to a wider audience are not really ever successful.

Socialist Alternative didn't make $15 an hour happen, Seattle is literally one of the most left leaning cities in the country and they were only pushed to it because of the SeaTac $15 an hour wage floor for most workers. Also the Tea Party is not a third party, you clown.

Nintendo Kid
Aug 4, 2011

by Smythe

Rogue0071 posted:

Socialist Alternative was not the only factor in Seattle's minimum wage increase, but Kshama Sawant's campaign, which focused on $15 as its central issue, mobilized tens of thousands of people, and was able to defeat a 16-year incumbent Democrat on that issue, was very significant in pushing the Democrats in Seattle to support it.

Another example to look at would be the role of the CCF/NDP in Canada in getting the Liberals to pass national public health care.

Or the role of NDP in Canada to get Conservatives into government for the past how many years now? It feels like it must have been at least 8?

  • Locked thread