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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Pauline Kael posted:

Oh, good point, the Republicans will run Mitt Romney every 4 years henceforth. I hope he does better against Barack Obama next time!

In 2004 GWB got 44% of latino vote. Your entire strategy relies on that never ever happening again.

He also won 72% of the Muslim vote in 2000. Clearly the GOP should just be able to walk back into that as well.

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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Alter Ego posted:

They elected Bevin because of a 30% turnout rate; plus, isn't Jack Conway like universally hated?

Yeah, people hate Bevin too, though. A lot of it was that the campaign became so negative almost nobody except the homophobes showed up. Like Conway won Louisville by a waaayyy lower margin than he should have, and he also refused to ever do retail politics because he was convinced it was all about money.

Jim Gray is incredibly popular in the actual city of Lexington. He won re-election in a landslide and Louisville is one of the most gay-friendly cities in the South (The percentage of our population that's openly gay is higher than New York or LA and 11th in the nation.) No Democrat has any chance in the South-Central part of the state or NKY outside of Covington so his path to victory is exciting the liberal base in Louisville and Lexington while getting the traditional Democrats who are turning red in Eastern Kentucky and the Purchase to look past his homosexuality and come back into the fold. It's not ideal but in this political climate, no Democrat will have an easy time. If we're going to lose we might as well lose without pretending to be Republican-lite.
Rand Paul isn't in a position of complete strength. He's not as popular at home as people in Washington and the East Coast pretend, and his Presidential campaign has opened himself to attacks that he does not care about the people of Kentucky beyond using the state as a stepping stone, something he is already vulnerable to as a non-native who moved here in his 20s (Kentucky is one of the most regionalist states there is) and a Duke graduate (I do not need to explain this one.) He still has the undeniable advantages of being from a different party than Obama and having regular sex with a woman.

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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Jerry Manderbilt posted:

from what kentuckian goon friends tell me, conway couldn't win an election if his mother was the only voter and only got into the AG office off of beshear's coattails

This is unfortunately true. He managed to lose a house race running as a Democrat in motherfucking Louisville.

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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And the Democratic candidate for Senate in Kentucky is now an openly gay man. I'm happy with this choice. Of all the people we could pick to lose to Rand, this is the best one. After Kim Davis, and all the jokes about our state the coastal elites make, we could definitely use the good PR.

http://www.wkyt.com/content/news/Mayor-Jim-Gray-among-those-vying-for-a-US-Senate-seat-379758551.html

BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Jerry Manderbilt posted:

Hope he's a good enough standard bearer to keep your state house blue and RTW out

State house will most likely be run against Matt Bevin who is turning out to be GOP Obama for the state.

His approval rating 6 months into his term is actually the exact same as Obama's statewide approval rating at 33%. This also makes him the most unpopular governor in the history of the state, being 2 points less popular than Ernie Fletcher and Paul E. Patton were at the height of their scandals.

To give you an idea of Kentucky's pain tolerance for corruption, Fletcher's scandal was pardoning every member of his administration after they were all indicted for corruption Gerald Ford style and Patton's scandal was giving out political favors for sex. Bevin managed to beat both of those just by being a tremendous rear end in a top hat.

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Feb 16, 2011

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FlamingLiberal posted:

I thought there was a contingent of Bevin voters who thought he wouldn't follow through with it?

It's not just Kynect. He also has had a very unpopular budget filled with draconian cuts that led to a protracted budget fight, and had unexpected problems with Benefind which was intended to be a sister-system to Kynect for non-medical-based welfare which led to 50,000 people who qualified for welfare being kicked off of the roles due to a computer glitch. He tends to pick fights that are totally unnecessary such as his war with the Beshear dynasty, that as much I dislike perpetuating stereotypes about our state, can only be described as reminiscent of the Hatfield's and the McCoy's.

He's also botched some personal image issues, for example, he attempted to achieve a GOP majority house before November by appointing enough Democrats to statewide positions that Special Elections would give the GOP total control. (This is a really common tactic for Kentucky Governors to remove political opponents. It gets them out of the public eye, while being seen as a promotion and making your administration look bi-partisan. Beshear gave his opponent for re-election a lifetime judicial post, for example.) He released a video the night before the election showing him sneaking up on an empty House chamber at 11AM on a Monday, to rally his base by saying that the Democrats weren't doing their job. The Democrats responded by immediately releasing photos showing them in the office building across the street where the Legislature does all conference and caucus meetings and pointing out that the work-week doesn't start until the late afternoon on Monday so that Legislators from the far-west and east can spend the weekend in their districts. Matt Bevin looked stupid at best and dishonest at worst. It ended up back-firing so badly that the Democrats ended up gaining a seat in the election designed to wipe them out.

He also has bad habits which are incredibly easy to mock similar to the GOP's Golfing Obama Jokes. Chief among these is his habit of taking selfies which is so bad that the 2nd most popular nickname for him among Democrats after Beavis is Selfie Governor. He thought that this was an endearing character trait instead of something people picked up on to make fun of his narcissism, so he had his office start a Facebook contest called #BevinSelfie where he posts his favorite selfies he took in the last week, and whichever one gets the most likes becomes his Cover Photo. He began this contest while critiquing the General Assembly for not doing the jobs they were elected to do.

But aside from the Governor Gossip, no. Clinton's made enough poorly chosen comments about Coal, that she would be DOA in the state if she were running against the dog mayor of Rabbit Hatch.

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Chances are he's surprised since people elected him in part to get rid of Kynect. Sure not everyone in KY is to blame for that but there's probably a hell of a lot more than 33%.

Accounting for the turn-out of an off-year election nobody was enthusiastic about, only 17% of the Commonwealth voted for him. It is entirely possible he has lost zero support.

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BIG FLUFFY DOG
Feb 16, 2011

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Cliff Racer posted:

Well thats certainly not true where I live.

What actually happened was that Conway was a pretty good candidate but ran in a polarized race in a state that favored the other party. Not all good candidates win (and not all bad candidates lose.)
Conway was a terrible candidate. He made almost zero personal campaign appearances to voters, had almost no defined campaign positions, and relied almost completely on blanketing the airwaves with Bevin attack ads which only managed to increase Bevin's name recognition. He couldn't beat Nprthup when he was the Dem candidate for house in Louisville. The only reason he ever managed to be a politician was Beshear's long long coat tails.

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Mitt Romney posted:

Could Beshear have beaten Rand paul this year?

Normally I would say no, but Matt Bevin has unveiled his proposal for Medicaid reform and outright said at the press conference that if Obama doesn't approve it by September, he'll reverse the Medicaid expansion. The plans best case scenario involves 80,000 people leaving the rolls and even good plans have taken years to wind their way through the bureaucracy so it's pretty obviously designed to minimize the political fallout from reversing the Medicaid expansion. Bevin's terrible about bungling PR stuff though and taking the insurance of 400,000 people a month before the election is such a staggeringly stupid self-inflicted wound, that Mitch McConnell would probably personally bust into the governor's mansion to strangle him if he went through with it.

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