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Joementum posted:Rick Perry's new smarty pants glasses took him to the Ivy League tonight. "People don't talk about Dartmouth a lot, but I'd rank you right up there with Harvard, Yale, and...uh...Harvard, Yale, and...uh..."
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comes along bort posted:No Vermin Supreme, thread invalidated. Well, it remains to be seen what party he'll register in the primary for. He ran as a Republican in 2008, but a Democrat in 2004 and 2012. One thing is clear, though: he is running, and has been since early this year. EDIT: Unfortunately, it is unclear whether he will be able to win the coveted goon vote this time around, as he has somehow managed to appeal to the Brony demographic, according to the Boston Globe. ComradeCosmobot fucked around with this message at 05:40 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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computer parts posted:Hillary's been a "national figure" for 25 years but outside of her SoS stint she hasn't been on anyone's mind in the past 15 years unless you're from New York. That's long enough for anyone under the age of 30 to not know who she is until now. If you were born after 1991 or so, sure. If you were 18+ in 2008, you may remember (and both her primary opponents and her general election opponent won't let you forget) that she was Obama's main primary challenger and they both landed some stiff punches to each other in primary ads during a very bitter challenge. She has the unenviable position of being vulnerable on both sides re: Obama - you can run ads targeting Obama voters showing how she felt about him during the primary, and you can run ads targeting anti-Obama voters showing her solidarity with Obama as SoS and afterward. And if you're a voter in the 18-25 range that has no living memory of Hillary Clinton you're by definition a fickle voter who probably isn't turning out anyway. If the 2016 election hinges on the 18-25 demographic (or any demographic, honestly) turning out on the sole basis of gender solidarity, something went very, very wrong during that election season. CubsWoo fucked around with this message at 05:56 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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ComradeCosmobot posted:Well, it remains to be seen what party he'll register in the primary for. He ran as a Republican in 2008, but a Democrat in 2004 and 2012. Well in addition to his position on dental hygiene, he did also promise to buy everyone a pony. That more or less seals up the brony demographic, though I can only hope it that was not his intention.
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Well in addition to his position on dental hygiene, he did also promise to buy everyone a pony. That more or less seals up the brony demographic, though I can only hope it that was not his intention. Well, Hillary's campaign does depend upon white, female turnout for her resembling 2008. Why can't Vermin Supreme go for this group with ~ponies~ ?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Well, Hillary's campaign does depend upon white, female turnout for her resembling 2008. Why can't Vermin Supreme go for this group with ~ponies~ ? I suppose Hillary could win in a walk if one of her campaign planks was a day one executive action directing the Department of Education to zero out all outstanding federal student loans. But as long as we're dreaming, I'll take one of those ponies Vermin's offering.
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DarkCrawler posted:Ted Cruz as well.
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CubsWoo posted:I suppose Hillary could win in a walk if one of her campaign planks was a day one executive action directing the Department of Education to zero out all outstanding federal student loans. But as long as we're dreaming, I'll take one of those ponies Vermin's offering. The under 30 vote still wouldn't turn out more than 20%. Though I guess she would pick up some of their parents probably.
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CubsWoo posted:I suppose Hillary could win in a walk if one of her campaign planks was a day one executive action directing the Department of Education to zero out all outstanding federal student loans. But as long as we're dreaming, I'll take one of those ponies Vermin's offering. That's a quicker way to lose a nationwide campaign than "free ponies." In fact, that may be the quickest way to lose a campaign I ever heard. Which makes it an idea that I just don't know Hillary's position on.
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CubsWoo posted:I suppose Hillary could win in a walk if one of her campaign planks was a day one executive action directing the Department of Education to zero out all outstanding federal student loans. But as long as we're dreaming, I'll take one of those ponies Vermin's offering. So you don't think there would be any backlash from the financial community for such an action?
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People need to stop talking up Warren as an immediate candidate. She seems honestly committed to staying in congress until maybe she can snag a Supreme Court or District Court nomination.
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Deteriorata posted:So you don't think there would be any backlash from the financial community for such an action? Wasn't the dream to have a President who wasn't beholden to the big banks and removing the debt shackles from what is becoming a lost generation of Gen Y/Millennials? (this is why I said it was a dream and not some kind of sound policy or platform to run on)
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CubsWoo posted:Wasn't the dream to have a President who wasn't beholden to the big banks and removing the debt shackles from what is becoming a lost generation of Gen Y/Millennials? Well, she certainly wouldn't win in a cakewalk as you assumed. Youth don't vote, and promising to forgive their student debts wouldn't get enough of them to the polls to offset the frenzy the business conservatives would whip up for the Republican candidate. Any policy aimed at youth specifically is a non-starter, politically.
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Joementum posted:DEMOCRATIC POSSIBILITIES Well, which is it?
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Joementum posted:PEOPLE WHO ARE DEFINITELY NOT RUNNING OR ARE THEY!?!?! Is there any actual reason to think John Thune would go for it again? Or is he just one of the people who gets put at the bottom of 'short lists' forever and ever? I started imagining a stadium full of people chanting THUUUUUUNE while I was writing this post. Try it, it's fun.
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Fulchrum posted:So apart from the joke, is there any reason why Chelsea Clinton is up there? Chelsea Clinton, Hedge Fund Manager.
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Nov 10, 2014 07:45
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How is Bobby Jindal not listed as exorcist?
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Shouldn't that be Arboriculture Height Enthusiast, not Horticulture? Horticulture is stuff like flowers and herbs.
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dinoputz posted:Chelsea Clinton, Bobby Digital posted:How is Bobby Jindal not listed as exorcist? Because he got excised.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Well, which is it? Possible, probable, if only there was a distinction
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Grouchio posted:He is a Canadian, just like Bieber and Nickleback. Ten bucks says he tries to run anyway.
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CubsWoo posted:If you were born after 1991 or so, sure. If you were 18+ in 2008, you may remember (and both her primary opponents and her general election opponent won't let you forget) that she was Obama's main primary challenger and they both landed some stiff punches to each other in primary ads during a very bitter challenge. She has the unenviable position of being vulnerable on both sides re: Obama - you can run ads targeting Obama voters showing how she felt about him during the primary, and you can run ads targeting anti-Obama voters showing her solidarity with Obama as SoS and afterward. These two points contradict each other. If you were 18 in 2008 you were a fickle voter and probably weren't turning out anyway. There's no reason to assume people would remember stuff from 8 years ago now.
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Nereid posted:Ten bucks says he tries to run anyway. Ten Canadian Tire dollars?
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Chris Christie posted:On the Democrats' side, what about Jim Webb??? Making posts straight outta Biff's Almanac or something...new article out today: quote:Former Virginia Senator Jim Webb, who served one term, from 2007 to 2013, and then retired, has the potential to win the beer-track vote. In early October, I drove from Washington to a residential building that sits high on a hill in Arlington. On the eighth floor, in a condominium with a sweeping view of Washington’s monuments, Webb has been plotting his own path to defeating Clinton. “I do believe that I have the leadership and the experience and the sense of history and the kinds of ideas where I could lead this country,” he told me. “We’re just going to go out and put things on the table in the next four or five months and see if people support us. And if it looks viable, then we’ll do it.” He running. http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/11/17/inevitability-trap
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http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/jim-webb-women-cant-fight/ Yeah, that whole "win back southern/appalachian whites" thing doesn't work if you turn away the Dem base of single white women and minorities. No way Webb gets anywhere in the primary.
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Joementum posted:Willard Romney - Horticulture Height Enthusiast This is just the right amount of joke.
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Chokes McGee posted:This is just the right amount of joke. I will never not laugh at "Rahm Emmanuel, Lich."
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computer parts posted:These two points contradict each other. If you were 18 in 2008 you were a fickle voter and probably weren't turning out anyway. There's no reason to assume people would remember stuff from 8 years ago now. They may not actively remember it, but as I mentioned there are plenty of ways for a Clinton opponent to jog their memory using her own words in debates/speeches/primary ads.
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CubsWoo posted:They may not actively remember it, but as I mentioned there are plenty of ways for a Clinton opponent to jog their memory using her own words in debates/speeches/primary ads. And what would be usable from that primary fight? That she questioned if Obama had the experience to lead?
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Hey Joementum, you can cross Howard Dean off of your list, he came out and directly supported Hillary Clinton on Meet the Press yesterday. Unless someone thinks he'd be a likely VP I guess... Also, anyone have any idea what three term WA governor Christine Gregoire is up to, outside of cancer research board positions? Solkanar512 fucked around with this message at 20:53 on Nov 10, 2014 |
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Nov 10, 2014 20:48
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Excuse me, Allen West is a "Noted War Criminal", not just a war criminal!
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Jazerus posted:Excuse me, Allen West is a "Noted War Criminal", not just a war criminal! I'm just happy he got some of the billing he deserves.
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oldswitcheroo posted:http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/jim-webb-women-cant-fight/ On the other hand, it's probably better to have him talk about the working class and economic populism than a 70-something year old socialist who wants to run from Vermont. Neither is going to draw the female/minority vote, but only one can draw in (maybe) some of the lost white voters that they need in the rust belt. People need to realize invoking the Koch brothers does poo poo-all among these voters because the avg person doesn't read DailyKos. Those people that know who the Koch brothers are already vote reliably Dem in every election. I don't know of any significant # of activists in the base that actually do stay home, even if they hate the candidates.
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Mitt!quote:According to several top Republicans, Romney made more than 80 phone calls to GOP candidates last Tuesday and Wednesday to congratulate them on their victories, including Senate candidates Joni Ernst of Iowa and Thom Tillis of North Carolina. He spent election night in Boston watching returns at the home of former aide Ron Kaufman, stopping in later at the Seaport Hotel to congratulate Massachusetts governor-elect Charlie Baker (R) on his win.
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In related news, Joe Biden called another four people he thought were Martin Walsh to congratulate them on becoming Mayor of Boston.
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Watching Romney flail to stay relevant has been even more rewarding than his actual loss. Is there any precedent for a losing politician to hang around and snipe rather than actually do anything other than Palin? Did she create a new political cliche?
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If Romney picks someone with an 'R' last name, he could save some cash and re-use his last campaigns' logo.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Watching Romney flail to stay relevant has been even more rewarding than his actual loss. Is there any precedent for a losing politician to hang around and snipe rather than actually do anything other than Palin? Did she create a new political cliche?  You'll remember, of course, that Nixon clawed his way back to relevance after being seen as a joke and two-time loser by vigorously campaigning for Republican candidates and amassing favours in the 1966 midterms.
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My Imaginary GF posted:If Romney picks someone with an 'R' last name, he could save some cash and re-use his last campaigns' logo. Romney/Rauner, two moderate governors from blue states, would absolutely trigger a Tea Party run after the convention.
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