|
Robby Wells, Jeff Boss, and Vermin Supreme. I wish some ambitious Iowa Democratic group would schedule a "1st in the Nation" debate for the current esteemed Democratic candidates and save us from this early campaign season mire. For the record, only Prohibitionist Jack Fellure is in on the GOP side. For the record, Barry O declared on Feb. 10, 2007.
|
#
¿
Feb 5, 2015 16:20
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 9, 2024 21:41 |
|
|
Thinking back to my work for a 3rd party candidate in 2004, when I was still an idealist of the nth degree, I can't think of a single way it even furthered a conversation on any single issue in a meaningful or effective way. Yeah, you voted your conscience. But you mostly only made yourself feel better. Of course, my state was still a red one then. I'd advise even the most well-meaning lefty to not waste their time on a 3rd party in what's now nearing swing state status.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 8, 2015 19:32
|
|
|
Voting takes time away from useful agitation and education work, anyway (in your SOC 200 class).
|
|
#
¿
Feb 8, 2015 19:44
|
|
|
Can people stop harassing Elizabeth Warren, please? She doesn't appear to have any interest in this and I don't blame her. Maybe not every decent person has to be president? I mean, do YOU want your finger on the button?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 9, 2015 18:29
|
|
|
amanasleep posted:Um, all that "harassment" gives Warren more power in the Senate, which Dem leadership needs to give her to keep her out of Hillary's hair. You mean the person she's already endorsed?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 9, 2015 20:29
|
|
|
Kalman posted:... Warren didn't want to run. They put her into leadership because they were hoping she could maybe help democrats capture some of the excitement her campaign generated by helping with strategy. To paraphrase Weigel/probably Joementum, maybe she's not interested in being commanding officer of the civilizing forces?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 9, 2015 22:54
|
|
|
PupsOfWar posted:isn't O'Malley the current go-to Cautionary Tale Tax Hound of american politics? I don't think we'd want to run somebody the Right could try and turn into a reverse Brownback, no matter how erroneously. I don't know, my sources tell me his replacement still should have won if he'd actually campaigned. His polling op was AWFUL and made him complacent. Also, he took the black vote for granted (being black himself) and didn't do anything to retain Obama/OMalley BaltCo supporters (who were getting pummeled with anti-tax Hogan stuff) either. It was identical to 2002: dumb candidate takes Dem leaning of state for granted, doesn't campaign, loses to candidate with no actual platform. Hogan would lose to any competent candidate in 2018. Brown just sorta...existed.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 11, 2015 17:08
|
|
|
Paul Ryan just lucked out that he could slap his name on a do-nothing job for his family's business. He's been working in congress since college. Of course, he didn't drop out to do so. It looks more and more like Walker, who cared more about politics than his education, left bc he lost the SBP election and wanted to run for something else (his first election was at 22). He's never not been running.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 12, 2015 15:26
|
|
|
Saw that this thread blew up, assumed it was about some uninteresting and unrelated argument, was not disappointed. Has anyone even mentioned how Jeb Bush, running on what seems to be a "tech and the future" platform, doxxed a bunch of people this week?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2015 02:25
|
|
|
HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Please enjoy a tea party poll where you get to pick who you would vote for if the election were today. From the comments I get the impression Sarah Palin is the favorite. Everyone please vote for Herman Cain in this so we can start a groundswell that gets the Cain Train back out of storage.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 13, 2015 13:24
|
|
|
HUGE PUBES A PLUS posted:Just in time for Valentine's Day, Hillary Clinton gag Pinterest account. Posing for pictures with Bill Clinton!? What a gaffe by Hillary! Surely this revelation of her relationship with the former President will scare people away.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 14, 2015 20:15
|
|
|
Zwabu posted:Wow. For Hillary to be even within 5 points of the leading GOP contenders in loving South Carolina has to have the bigwigs in the GOP making GBS threads their pants. Polls said the same thing this early about O in 2012. Basically, the D vote has already coalesced and all the undecideds are Republicans who claim they want to "wait and see" but are just gonna vote for the
|
|
#
¿
Feb 15, 2015 17:28
|
|
|
Who speaks at a Bernie Sanders-as-candidate DNC?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 16, 2015 23:48
|
|
|
My dad, a CNBC-watching Bill Buckley Republican who tries not to discuss politics with me (though he did somehow vote for O in 2012) if at all possible, felt the need to ask me what's wrong with this Rand Paul guy when I was home last. I explained the Fed thing and he was like "yeah, no banks are gonna back that" (he worked in commodity trading), so I'm not sure where Paul will get his serious money from. Koch? Could they be his Sheldon A? Rygar201 posted:I'm conformable putting my money on Jeb. He's got the biggest war chest now, and after forcing out Romney it looks like the decision makers are in his corner too. You weren't around for the Kucinich experiment, were you? De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 16:54 on Feb 18, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Feb 18, 2015 16:42
|
|
|
If only he was on the bill with Actual Socialist Cornel West and not Cornel Brooks.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 18, 2015 17:28
|
|
|
Grand Theft Autobot posted:I've got plenty of professional acquaintences who would vote R if it didn't mean empowering a bunch of religious psychopaths. If the GOP was still viable after shedding the culture-warrior husk, they could expand further into the privileged idiot market. Republicans can win in strong D states (MA, MD, NJ). Democrats can't come within striking distance in strong R states (UT, AK, the rest of the Plains and Deep South). What does that say about GOP viability?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 18, 2015 18:07
|
|
|
muscles like this? posted:Yes, that was a thing during Clinton with Madeline Albright. She wasn't eligible so they would have skipped her. Long before that. Kissinger.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 19, 2015 20:00
|
|
|
Wrap it up, Clintonailures.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 20, 2015 14:31
|
|
|
Pohl posted:It is 7:40 on a Saturday morning and I woke up at 5 because I had a weird dream. I had a dream that I was in a tag team with a coworker who was dressed as Jerry Seinfeld. We wrestled Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Tune in next week when I'll tell you about my dream about the incredible man with a gun who plugged a man attacking my entire family with a sig sauer from 100 ft. so why was there an LF revival this week? ^^Jindal is out first from the "seems legit" crowd. He's Perry without the cowboy hat. Who cares? Lol, what led anyone to think Trump is too moderate? De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Feb 21, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Feb 21, 2015 18:28
|
|
|
comes along bort posted:Is anyone other than Jim Webb and maybe Joe Scarborough taking him seriously? A guy I know that is very passionate about prison/sentencing reform. As far as people I know who are passionate about one Dem possibility or another, I know one guy from Baltimore who likes O'Malley but wants Warren (NOT RUNNING), that Webb guy, a number of old Kucinich hands backing Sanders (don't really feel like wasting that time myself this time around, I'm a disenchanted lefty who'd rather complain online and I hate most online progressives), and all the Hillary folks, every one of which works in politics or lobbying or "consulting" or wants desperately to. Now, this is colored by me having been involved in the DC bubble I'm sure. I'm sure there's someone out there that wants Hillary not because of career-related reasons (GOP president means a lot fewer chances to move up). But why anyone wouldn't just back the most ideal candidate and this pointless point in the race and settle later if not for career reasons is beyond me. De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Feb 22, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Feb 22, 2015 17:37
|
|
|
Sanders is a really good burrito from a gross looking cart. Webb is Arby's.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 22, 2015 17:52
|
|
|
Joementum posted:Scott Walker took a selfie in the White House. Looks very presidential. These guys just look like THUGS: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/biden-takes-selfie-obama-n82626
|
|
#
¿
Feb 23, 2015 01:35
|
|
|
The X-man cometh posted:In Chicago, a socialist history teacher is a stone's throw behind an incumbent backed by a hedge fund super-PAC. Good candidates are there, and they're starting to win more often. City council socialists, you say? Surely this will mean much to the uninsured of Mississippi and translate to gains for those living in the poorest states. Cities and non-cities in the US are on different planets.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 23, 2015 04:06
|
|
|
The X-man cometh posted:"Find me more socialist candidates" And this is still a sign of any sort of hope for people living in the poorest corners of America that also have state governments that hate them...because? That's where the true screwjob is occurring. I like how people act like a socialist city council member in Seattle signals some national sea change. Unions are dead and more than likely will be operating in what is functionally going to be a national RTW environment. I read this more as the final hurrah for labor in its last redoubts as it defends itself against its final picking apart. Labor cannot go on offense and protect the long-time unprotected at this point because it is lower in numbers, held down defending itself in northern cities, and run by people who think there's a way to just restore the way things were before 1979 through enough magic and stubbornness. National RTW is coming, and no one has any clue what to do aside from feebly protesting against the inevitable and acting like you can just restore the New Deal in the face of a force dead set on exterminating it that also happens to run a large majority of states at every functional level as well as SCOTUS. But hey, as long as cool white kids that fancy themselves revolutionaries (mostly online) in the worlds most affluent cities can brag about having socialists around. De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Feb 23, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Feb 23, 2015 14:05
|
|
|
The X-man cometh posted:Did you read my sentence about the Northwest Side of Chicago? Meegan is running in a low-income, ethnically diverse, socially conservative district, he's a union member, and he's literally going up against hedge funds. There are about as many cool white online revolutionaries in the 33rd Ward as there are confederate flags in The Castro. And the outcome will be that there might be a socialist in Chicago. As goes majority minority communities in Chicago, so goes...something, I guess. Surely this will revive the labor movement and stop national RTW. There's a total disconnect between major northern cities and everywhere else. I remember when TN banned CBAs with teachers and an NJ friend was like, "yeah, I know what it's like. We're gonna have to pay like $50 more a month for healthcare. FUCKIN UNION BUSTERS!" You can't even comprehend how much more hosed everyone else is. Hell, didn't your governor pretty much just unilaterally make the same decision for public sector union dues that SCOTUS is going to make? De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Feb 23, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Feb 23, 2015 17:42
|
|
|
Nessus posted:Yeah, as best as I can tell the argument there is "this incremental improvement in one area has little chance of directly helping another area, soon." I am not sure what the proposed remedy is, or if it's just meant to discourage bothering with the first place. Well, I've been talking about what I think is realistic change for the nation in here for a long time. Not my fault that you read me saying "what happens in Seattle means little in Mississippi where the most hopeless people are" and think I'm advocating doing nothing. I'm for the most realistic moves to protect the poor at the highest functional level. To do that at the highest functional level, you have to do more than make blue places deeper blue. Especially as the red places get deeper red. No functional majority exists made up solely of blue districts. The best answer I can give you is a national party built around a lowest common denominator acceptable across geography and cultures. Sorta like the functional majority of moderates and liberals, ranging from the Progressive Caucus to some actual Blue Dogs that did vote for it, that gave us that Obamacare thing.
|
|
#
¿
Feb 24, 2015 02:25
|
|
|
I swear a few, maybe more than a few, GOP presidential candidates backed Net Neutrality in 2008. Maybe Huckabee, McCain, and a few others? Did I dream this?
|
|
#
¿
Feb 26, 2015 23:32
|
|
|
comes along bort posted:Not necessarily; just ask Terry McAuliffe. Careful with that. He ran against a horror show and made his margins in previously GOP white and Asian immigrant suburbs in Fairfax and Loudoun. That's what changed from 2009. Also, there was a noteworthy 3rd party candidate.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 2, 2015 18:26
|
|
|
I fail to see any charisma anywhere in this election, actually. Maybe Deval Patrick if Hillary was out? I've barely seen anything of the guy. I'm talking about candidates that can maybe win. Christie is going nowhere and Trump will not run. The GOP field is like the 1988 Dem field. A bunch of people no one outside their own states cares about, with no charisma (all of them), fighting to stop the one candidate who would be guaranteed to lose (all of them).
|
|
#
¿
Mar 5, 2015 20:40
|
|
|
Nonsense posted:Doesn't he work for Xbox or something like that? Mark Penn Dick Morris is a grifter who has books ghostwritten for him and appears on Fox to make wrong predictions.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 5, 2015 22:50
|
|
|
I gave Gore so much poo poo in 2000 and really regret it. I blame the clutch cargo version of him on Conan O'Brien. I don't know how we'll he'd do in a primary with any female candidate after his sexual harassment accusations.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 6, 2015 18:51
|
|
|
Good odds Rahm replaces a damaged Hillary after dispatching "Chewy."
|
|
#
¿
Mar 9, 2015 13:21
|
|
|
Lived in South Florida. Actually really liked it, but I was in college so that may have been part of it. If you cut the state in half just north of Orlando, you'd have a state roughly as reliably Dem federally as Nevada (minorities will overwhelm the olds easily) which is close to solid blue in Presidential years, and then you'd have Alabama. I was there through the Jeb! years and aside from Terri Sciavo, I can't remember anything high profile that was totally heinous that he did, though I know I hated him on last name alone. What else did he pass? I remember some pretty regressive drug laws, but nothing actively damaging to schools that was out of the ordinary. I feel bad for paying almost 0 attention to state politics and being obsessed with the wars alone 2003-2006.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 10, 2015 23:00
|
|
|
JonathonSpectre posted:Then, you can make the FCAT harder every year and raise the standards to pass it every year and then talk about how it's proof teachers suck poo poo (although by God we appreciate them and all) and need to be fired! Was an out of state student, didn't have to take that poo poo 
|
|
#
¿
Mar 11, 2015 01:08
|
|
|
Gyges posted:It's also worth remembering that Jeb tried as hard as he possibly could to both get vouchers and overturn the class size amendment that the dumb voters passed. He even got a repeal amendment on the very next ballot. I can't remember if he was part of the high speed rail repeal that also found it's way to the ballot the very next election after high speed rail passed. I left the same year as Jeb and I always thought Crist supported it and Scott repealed it. I thought it was sort of a nice idea back then, at least through the I-4 corridor.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 11, 2015 02:39
|
|
|
Gyges posted:Come now, this is Florida, friend. Back in 98 or 2000 or so we passed a constitutional amendment to get high speed rail in Florida. There was to be a line linking Miami, Orlando, Tampa, and Jacksonville with eventual links to St. Petersburg and Tallahassee. A majority of the state had spoken. However Jeb and other Republicans utterly hated this idea. Spend money on MY STATE? gently caress You! I believe this is around when a class size limitation amendment was also passed, which similarly had their panties all up in a bunch. I missed that early phase. I didn't arrive til Jeb!'s 2nd term. When I was living there, it was just a nice idea that the grant came in for. I do remember people protesting cutting more development and a rail ROW through the I-4 corridor (those WELCOME TO ORLAMPA signs), but I thought that was NIMBY environmentalists. But hey, you can take a free train on weekends to Magic games  What's the rule on Rubio running for Senate/POTUS/VP concurrently?
|
|
#
¿
Mar 12, 2015 17:38
|
|
|
Fiorina is shooting for VP. Jeb is going about being the "technology candidate" in the dumbest way, so it follows that he'd pick the failure CEO from a poo poo company no one has admired since 1996. May as well roll out the campaign in a AOL live chat, keyword: RISE
|
|
#
¿
Mar 13, 2015 19:42
|
|
|
Joementum posted:The latest in Mike Huckabee's scampaign: a cure for the diabetes. He looks like my rear end in a top hat uncle that only ever shows up when he needs cash. Actually, now I'm not so sure Uncle Don isn't actually Mike Huckabee wearing a wig.
|
|
#
¿
Mar 16, 2015 15:55
|
|
|
Radish posted:That sounds like pussy talk to me. The best one of these surfaced on Wonkette (I think) about 4 years ago: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=U5RbQYEX1-U A kid in a red stormtrooper helmet teams up with the Reagan puppet from Spitting Image to fight Disco Godfather and John Hinckley. De Nomolos fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Mar 17, 2015 |
|
#
¿
Mar 17, 2015 14:57
|
|
|
|
| # ¿ May 9, 2024 21:41 |
|
|
Radish posted:Hahah I forgot all about Disco guy. MILLIONS UNEMPLOYED BY BLACKS INVENTION, DISCO
|
|
#
¿
Mar 17, 2015 15:01
|
|