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Series DD Funding posted:It's cool how you know people's "interests" better than they do. Some things like healthcare or minimum wage are everyone's self-interest though. If I make above minimum wage and my neighbor only makes minimum, it hurts me that he doesn't make more--if he makes more he'll spend more and the economy will improve. A similar situation with healthcare; if my neighbor doesn't have coverage and gets sick, his decreased productivity is a drain on the economy and hurts me. Welcome to capitalism, where nobody is an island.
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Series DD Funding posted:What are someone's interests besides what they find important to themselves? I don't follow. If I want something that's bad, why would you want to let me have it? I'd be the one in the wrong.
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May 20, 2015 04:59
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If Hillary Clinton isn't opportunistic, how are we meant to take her '08 primary campaign helping kick-start birtherism?
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May 26, 2015 04:20
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Cugel the Clever posted:Bringing a significant portion of potential voters together to demand change has to matter for something. I suppose this depends on how you're using "has to."
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May 26, 2015 05:09
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I don't even actually think opportunism is a strong negative in the current political climate. It makes someone predictable.
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May 26, 2015 09:20
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Daduzi posted:Oh hey, is it that point in the thread where everyone basically says the same thing while willfully misconstruing each other in the most patronising way possible? Cos that's always my favourite part. And the actual voting is still most of a year away.
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May 26, 2015 10:18
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Bernie's position on guns is nice and all and I'd love to think that it would mean anything but I simply expect that if it became significant then the NRA could just crank up the SOCIALISM! alarm and drown out what he actually says and does. Does anyone know if there's good data on the number of socially liberal, economically leftist gun control opponents who don't already vote D?
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May 26, 2015 20:38
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TheDisreputableDog posted:As I said before, people have been convicted recently of misconduct without even establishing a "quo", the idea that a definitive link between benefit and service needs to be solid is a canard. "Conflict of interest" doesn't mean you did something wrong, it means you put yourself in between two different groups with the appearance of impropriety - policies against conflicts exist to avoid those situations from the start. TheDisreputableDog posted:I'm getting that sinking feeling where a community has self-selected into such a narrow range that anyone with a position outside the norm is ruining the picnic and "trolling". If I understand right, the first post I've quoted points out where your argument doesn't line up with other people's. If it's not necessary by your standard for there to be provable quid-pro-quo, then you're racing on a different track from anybody who think such a thing needs to be provable. Which isn't trolling necessarily, but I think it does mean nobody's going to be happy.
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May 28, 2015 05:14
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Sir Tonk posted:So are we going to have drones following around candidates in four years when they fire all the reporters? By 2024 the leading candidates from each party will be Aasimo-style robots controlled by a Twitch channel.
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Jun 1, 2015 14:11
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O'Malley might have a chance if he convinces the DNC to change the debate format to a pentathlon, I guess.
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Jun 1, 2015 19:22
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A3th3r posted:I forgot about that.. He is technically 'latin american,' although he is the whitest mexican guy I have ever seen He's technically Latin American? I don't even know what that's supposed to mean.
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Jun 2, 2015 04:56
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sullat posted:Louis XIV has been dead for 400 years, I think we can go back to using the last button without fear of offending the fat Sun King. I would love to see pols getting sartorially ambitious. You'd need to re-cut the jacket entirely to make a single-breasted work while buttoning three. Relatedly, who do you think could best rock a Nehru jacket?
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Jun 3, 2015 09:03
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mlmp08 posted:Rich politicians should probably hire staffers who know how to check on clothing but listening to populists who argue to help the poor get super pissy about fashion sense and tailored suits is such a loving bore. I'm glad my job has a manual and uniforms so I don't have to worry about not looking trendy enough. I'd be pretty surprised if anything Walker wears is tailored, and it obviously doesn't need to be because dressing well is not his job. The basic rules of professional dress, though, act as a filter, a sort of warning system: if he can't remember which buttons to fasten on a jacket, what else can't he remember?
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Jun 3, 2015 13:17
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TheDisreputableDog posted:Bernie Sanders can't even run a comb through his hair half the time, how can we expect him to pay attention to detail when it comes to his economic plan? I do not think Bernie Sanders should be the President of the United States.
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Jun 3, 2015 15:59
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It's like 60 minutes on Acid!
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Jun 3, 2015 16:16
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Also, associating knowing how to wear clothes and look good with class status is, itself, bougie as gently caress.
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Jun 3, 2015 19:08
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Plisk posted:I want my Bernie Sanders. Because she is a better candidate and will be a better President. I want Bernie to stay in Congress where he's more effective.
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Jun 3, 2015 19:41
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Who was the last candidate to wear a bowtie with a suit and not a tuxedo? I don't feel equipped to answer that question but somebody else might. It's an ambitious sartorial choice, these days, so probably nobody recent. Maybe Vermin Supreme, though?
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Jun 4, 2015 05:32
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EugeneJ posted:As far as actual racism like white people burning down entire towns 100 years ago...maybe if everyone was educated and had money, regardless of their race, that wouldn't happen? Well, this seems like the basis for your argument, so... prove it, I guess.
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Jun 8, 2015 00:03
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TheDisreputableDog posted:It's especially egregious when you look at how the "dead broke" post-Executive Clintons bootstrapped themselves back to solvency in a completely ethical way. Wouldn't this post mean that both of those things are still bad?
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Jun 9, 2015 15:18
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TheDisreputableDog posted:To be fair, it isn't a stretch to believe that MLK would have a problem with extrajudicial execution of US citizens via drone strike. Yeah, to be sure--Obama is too conservative for MLK in a lot of ways.
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Jun 10, 2015 14:05
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AsInHowe posted:A girl pointed out to me last night that the expression on Ted Cruz's face reminds her of the creepy men who leer at underage girls, and now I can't unsee that image. So his campaign theme won't be "Aqualung" and I think that's terribly unfair.
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Jun 10, 2015 19:47
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Those look like sandals, presumably he took off the baseball cleats to come inside. Rand looks far more comfortable in baseball clothes than in business wear; he should make this his campaign outfit going forward.
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Jun 12, 2015 05:39
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ReindeerF posted:One of you freakish political nerds should set up a Google map tracking all these appearances. Would be interesting to see and, if it isn't been done yet, get a shitload of attention. That's in Joementum's basement next to the syrup shelf and the cider kegs, but he doesn't let anybody else come down there.
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Jun 12, 2015 08:50
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O'Malley's police reform, from what I understand, focused on broken-windows policing combined with aggressively manipulating statistics to create the appearance of crime reduction without the hard work of actually reducing crime.
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Jun 15, 2015 08:57
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:9 billion in assets seems low for Trump Forbes thinks he's "only" worth $4.1 billion.
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Jun 16, 2015 13:48
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The Nastier Nate posted:You may have a lot of things to say about Scott Walker, but calling him failure when he's won 11 elections since 1994 (in a state that went Dem every presidential election since 1988) is wrong by every metric. It would be like calling Obama a failure cause he lost his first bid for Illinois state assembly. This is the candidate that democrats should be most afraid of, and whatever your personal opinion of him is, downplaying his political accomplishments will cost a lot of votes. The sentence reads "he started out as a failure," not "he's a failure now"
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Jun 19, 2015 13:56
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What photographer submits this photo? What editor okays it? Jesus, who didn't know any better than this?
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Jun 22, 2015 20:28
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neonnoodle posted:When a person from MA reaches a certain threshold of insanity, the state constitution requires them to move north of the border and get a satellite dish, above-ground swimming pool, and ATV to go with their AR-15s and fireworks. you're not making this sound bad at all though
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Jun 23, 2015 18:55
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TheDisreputableDog posted:The fact is that Republicans elected at the national level are getting more diverse. To be fair, still not as diverse as Democrats, but it's a real thing, not tokenism - you can look at the historic firsts the midterms brought. Well, sure--but that doesn't address the claim that Americans can look at the facts in front of them and see that the GOP is a party that at best tacitly benefits from the racist vote, and supports policies that harm Americans because of that.
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Jun 24, 2015 19:05
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Joementum posted:I think that Trump tweet was about yesterday's decision on Obamacare, but it's Trump so who the gently caress knows. When did your avatar text change? I just noticed it now.
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Jun 26, 2015 16:13
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My Imaginary GF posted:It's not anti-smoking legislation, its anti-imported tobacco consumption legislation, which does not impact Uruguayan producers of smoked agricultural commodities to nearly the same degree. It is protectionism which you refuse to see as anything close to resembling an objective understanding of its policy impacts. The objective policy impact of allowing a tobacco company to sue a nation for enacting policy which can reasonably be expected to decrease tobacco consumption is to put nations under threat of penalty for serving the best interests of their citizens... though I also note you're simply making observations. Do you think allowing corporations to sue governments for these reasons is good policy or bad policy?
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Jun 28, 2015 18:02
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comedyblissoption posted:Wikileaks has publicized this content. That would be an awful poll question.
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Jun 28, 2015 18:18
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A second Benghazi has hit the thread
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Jun 28, 2015 18:29
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I think the question of whether he's using the events (and the dead child) as a political prop is difficult to say... it would seem to depend on how you feel about how his other children appear in media.
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Jun 29, 2015 15:26
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lmaoboy1998 posted:I'm going to assume roommate means housemate over there then. American English. Well I think they live in an apartment, not a house. (e: forgot this wasn't chatthread, added proper punctuation/capitalization)
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Jun 30, 2015 08:51
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lmaoboy1998 posted:I would call that person my flatmate, but I suppose Americans don't refer to apartments as 'flats'. Luckily the word 'house' can have a more abstract meaning (a dwelling of any type), so you still have a much better option than referring to a whole apartment as a room. You can't fool me into thinking Brits speak better English than Americans. I've met Brits who aren't on television.
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Jun 30, 2015 09:38
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lmaoboy1998 posted:That sounds great, definitely better rather than letting our globally beloved Queen effortlessly project an image of British grace, culture and good taste worldwide. One of the nice things about living overseas is learning that, after so much worrying about Americans being bad tourists, we don't even make the top 5 in a lot of countries. When I go overseas I'm expected as an American to be able to control my drinking and my fists, whereas if I show up with a British accent and an association football jersey they roll out the vomit bucket and get the stun-gun ready.
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Jun 30, 2015 10:40
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If you like Bernie, why would you want him to be President?
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Vox Nihili posted:Cogent. But it's not as if, were he to be elected, Bernie would just be able to say "I'm the guy now, get in line"--the party is bigger than that. If Bernie gets nominated, he wins the chance to choose which positions he has to compromise with the party leadership on.
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