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Joementum posted:1. The Vice Presidential pick doesn't matter at all in terms of votes received in the general election.
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MaxxBot posted:Why would anyone want president Biden? He's perfect as VP because he's funny and doesn't actually do anything, his actual policies are pretty awful.
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Jan 21, 2015 20:21
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Mercury_Storm posted:And yet Palin was almost a heart-attack away from being POTUS. How the gently caress would that have even worked?
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Jan 26, 2015 16:00
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Remember those people who watched James Cameron's Avatar and got suicidal because they wished they could live on Pandora? That's how I'd feel watching Al Gore's America.
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Jan 26, 2015 16:16
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Chantilly Say posted:What method of transport is best for shipping the untouchables to their new ghettos?
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Feb 5, 2015 05:25
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Man, it's gonna be great when the Supreme Court rules that gay people can dance at their weddings.
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Feb 5, 2015 20:56
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V. Illych L. posted:your vote doesn't count you know that, right
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Feb 7, 2015 01:35
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Re: "One vote doesn't matter" 'How Bad For The Environment Can Throwing Away One Plastic Bottle Be?' 30 Million People Wonder To put it another way, just because it's a drop in the bucket doesn't mean you shouldn't fix your leaking roof. SpiderHyphenMan fucked around with this message at 23:08 on Feb 7, 2015 |
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Feb 7, 2015 23:05
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:I think the only path to a Jeb Bush presidency is to own the Dubya Legacy and pretend it was a massive success ruined by the devil Obama. The republican base will buy it, at least, if it's sold to them properly.
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Feb 16, 2015 17:30
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Quidam Viator posted:And why should they really want to? I honestly believe they profit far more from taking every state and local office and the entire federal legislature while leaving the presidency to the Democrats. Seriously, how can you maintain the victim narrative when you hold all the branches? quote:Having Hillary as a president is perfect for them, because what they want is actual stagnation. They want their base to stay angry and unfulfilled, they NEED to have someone else to blame for why everything is terrible, and they do the most for their sponsors by nickel and diming pork legislation through Congress while stalling any real legislation. I don't know how people can't see this. I'm serious, D&D, how can you think that the rich don't benefit from this gridlock? quote:The Kochs and Adelson and the Waltons don't NEED to have a bunch of aggressive legislation passed to make money hand over fist while impoverishing the rest of America; they already have a great situation, and the only threat is actual movement. quote:If the GOP wins both houses in 2016, they should WANT Hillary in the hotseat. You tell me about Supreme Court nominations, but I think that an energized GOP which already has 32 governorships, the House, and the Senate could actually exert enough power to block nominations, and I don't know why they wouldn't. quote:I know a lot of people here think I'm crazy, but I don't see how the GOP loses by having a Democratic president, considering how essential the "most oppressed minority" meme is for white, evangelical, conservative voters. They NEED a Great Satan to constantly vilify, because their actual policy agenda is so thin. I also don't think I'm Arzying here, because I think we all agree that there is some very risky and unpleasant poo poo coming down the pike on a lot of issues, from the collapse of the anemic economic "recovery" and the burst of other financial bubbles, to a bunch of really ugly foreign policy situations, to very serious consequences arising on all level from the GOP's success in defunding and destroying so much infrastructure and so many services on the local, state, and national level. poo poo, I wouldn't want to be Obama, looking down the barrel of the next two years, and possibly having to face a tarnished legacy as president because the economy imploded on his watch or there's a gigantic foreign policy disaster.
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Feb 18, 2015 20:28
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Feb 18, 2015 20:47
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computer parts posted:If you want to ruin someone's life go kill some SCOTUS justices, at least you're only ruining your own (and whichever poor bastards you shoot I guess). Now, as for the ethics of assassinating a politician who is unelected and has a lifetime appointment, that is an interesting conversation that can thankfully be had in this great country without fear of reprisal.
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Feb 19, 2015 04:49
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gnarlyhotep posted:De-politicize yourself and face to happiness.
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Feb 20, 2015 18:21
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If there was a national poll today asking "Should we have nuked the Soviet Union before they had the chance to develop nuclear bombs?" I honestly believe that at least 20% of Americans would say yes.
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Feb 21, 2015 21:54
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Back on Topic: Does this Giuliani thing actually have serious legs of being relevant to the primaries? Like I don't think any of the 37 GOP debates are gonna feature the question "Do you think Obama loves America?" (as great as that would be) but is there any chance of this still being A Thing a few months from now when all the people we know are going to run actually file with the FEC and officially declare their candidacy?
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Feb 21, 2015 22:16
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bpower posted:So 27%?
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Feb 21, 2015 22:19
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gnarlyhotep posted:I would appreciate it if you wouldn't namedrop me, because my stance on politics is to not do anything at all.
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Feb 23, 2015 06:47
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:Not as stupid as accelerationism
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Feb 23, 2015 16:34
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Freudian posted:How the hell do you bankrupt a casino?
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Feb 26, 2015 16:59
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via the relevant article on HuffPoquote:A spokesman for Walker said The University of Wisconsin system requested the deletion of provisions of "duplicative reporting requirements," since the federal government already requires reporting.
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Feb 27, 2015 23:00
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Joementum posted:CPAC straw poll results.
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Feb 28, 2015 23:28
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I can see Ted Cruz getting the nomination before Scott Walker. Walker has zero ability to answer basic questions, and Wisconsin is loving imploding as a direct result of his policies. The minute an ounce of pressure gets put on him in the debates he's loving done.
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Mar 1, 2015 01:52
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I gotta be honest: If there's one person on the CPAC Straw Poll that I would consider to have a real possibility of getting 51% in the general, it would be Marco Rubio. That the core base has disowned him is irrelevant, they'll still turn out to vote against Hillary. The catastrophic failure of Scott Walker's policies in Wisconsin would crush him if he somehow got the nomination. There is nothing that would get apathetic voters to turn out more than the possibility of a third Bush in the White House, even if the alternative was another Clinton. Ted Cruz is a loving wingnut and even if he was popular enough in the primaries to get the nomination despite the establishment despising him he'd be obliterated in the general. Ben Carson has literally no political experience. Santorum is a joke, as are Perry and Huckabee. Trump, and Palin are less than jokes. Christie is Christie, come the gently caress on. Rand Paul? Rand Paul. Lindsey Graham is a 60 year old bachelor, and it sure as hell isn't because he's married to his job (He's unlovable.) John Bolton? Are you making GBS threads me? George Pataki? He's 70. Bobby Jindal? ... ...maybe???
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Mar 1, 2015 20:27
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Zwabu posted:Nah, it's more the fact that he's a poo poo candidate that disqualifies him.
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Mar 1, 2015 21:40
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Ted Cruz is basically Rorschach.
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Mar 2, 2015 02:40
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Aliquid posted:I see Ted Cruz as basically a sniveling little poo poo, but my dad sees a conservative warrior-scholar. HELP!
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Mar 2, 2015 02:51
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This is Hillary's race to lose and that will be the case for the next 20 months.
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Mar 2, 2015 16:38
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Look Hillary's going to win in 2016 and she'll either have a Congress that does nothing or a Congress that does nothing but pass poo poo she'll veto the gently caress out of. SCOTUS remains 5-4 neocon shitfuck as Ginsburg gets replaced after an absolute horrorshow of a nomination process while Scalia and Kennedy hang on.
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Mar 2, 2015 17:15
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Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:Will we see any establishment republicans call Hillary a bitch or worse?
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Mar 2, 2015 17:46
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Whatever happened to Paul Ryan running in 2016?
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Mar 2, 2015 18:11
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If Paul Ryan couldn't sell his poo poo to the American people then Scott Walker has already failed.
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Mar 2, 2015 18:43
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I'm not sure how comparable the two are; the former was more of a straight-up randroid while Walker is just a boring Reagan wannabe. Fortunately, Joe Biden had a plan. 
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Mar 2, 2015 18:56
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FAUXTON posted:No because I'd rather see a decisive victory that leaves zero question of what the goddamn score is. No hopes-pinning, no banking on GOTV, I want to see exactly how and why and when the GOP will lose the goddamn election and I want it to be decisive enough to impart the kind of psychic anguish the 2008/12 elections did, because I don't think Hillary will be as patient with their poo poo once in office and out of campaign mode as Obama has been.
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Mar 2, 2015 21:54
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If ISIS has been stopped without any American boots on the ground by the DNC, expect that to be the new "Osama Bin Laden is dead."
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Mar 2, 2015 22:01
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I think Rubio will bow out early once it's clear he's going nowhere, but Jeb will stay in (because he's probably got the best chances) as will Cruz (because he's a narcissistic rear end in a top hat).
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Mar 2, 2015 23:34
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Rubio's a dead letter in the primary as long as immigration remains a key issue with the party, which will remain the case as long as Obama's executive actions and position on DREAM stand.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:45
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Captain_Maclaine posted:If that happened early enough, I suspect more of the nuts, kooks, and also-rans would become more viable, if only as the only Adult in the Room had departed. Jeb Bush is unelectable, barring catastrophe like a terrorist attack.
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Mar 2, 2015 23:51
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Even if Jeb drops, I don't see how Rubio could scrounge enough support to fend off attacks from Cruz et al on immigration, particularly if the GOP continues its current temper tantrum on that front. As for Walker, I'll say it again: the objective fact that his policies in Wisconsin have failed, and that he has absolutely zero political rhetorical skills to defend them with, make him not just unelectable, but toxic. His governorship is a direct challenge to the old maxim that conservatism cannot fail, it can only be failed. Thus Scott Walker will be portrayed by people on all sides of the spectrum as a failure of a political leader. I honestly believe he's going to lose re-election in 2016. Everyone else is already a joke. Captain_Maclaine posted:Oh you sweet, innocent fool. 1. Hillary is a competent politician and can control a narrative. 2. There is nothing that would get young people out to vote more than the possibility of a third Bush. 3. Centrist view in America concerning Congrss consists of "BOTH SIDES ARE DUMB IDIOTS WHO NEED TO STOP FIGHTING OVER EVERYTHING AND LEARN TO COMPROMISE" Centrist view in America concerning Bush is "national embarrassment keep him the gently caress away from government" A third Bush is an impossibility. If the GOP had any brains at all they'd put ZERO money behind Jeb and find someone actually electable.
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Mar 3, 2015 00:11
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Good Citizen posted:Republicans aren't going to be demographically shut out of the presidency for another few cycles. A recession isn't necessary. The most charismatic candidate that doesn't publicly self-destruct will win the general. That's America. Scott Walker will collapse the moment the national eye turns to the ruination of Wisconsin. Marco Rubio is charismatic and "moderate" enough to appeal to "independent voters." He's also going to have the everloving poo poo primaried out of him. Everyone else is a joke. It's Hilary's race to lose.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Some had already asked Jeb about his brother. He's not his brother. End of conversation, its a non-starter.
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