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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

http://i.imgur.com/0N8enBj.mp4






FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

What is the difference between a caucus and a primary?

Simply, a primary is run by the state and a caucus is run by the party. Primaries tend to use the Australian ballot, which lists several candidate choices allowing you to mark one in a private election. Caucuses are meetings staged by the political party. They are typically run using Robert's Rules of Order. Often, supporters of each candidate are allowed to make a short speech in support of their choice. After the speeches, votes are cast by the caucus attendees for the candidates. After those votes are tabulated, delegates are selected for the next round of causes (typically precinct, county, district and state) based on the rules agreed to by the caucus attendees.

What are closed and open primaries?

A closed primary is one in which only registered members of that party may vote, for example only Republicans being allowed to vote in a Republican primary. Open primaries allow each voter to decide which ballot they would like to vote on, so a registered Democrat could vote in the Republican primary in an open primary state. Some states are semi-open. For example, Arizona allows registered Republicans and Libertarians to vote in its Republican primary, but not registered Democrats. Each state is allowed to decide its own rules, though parties have successfully sued to force the state to adopt their rules.

Are there differences between Republican and Democratic caucuses?

Yes there are. Republican caucuses will change in 2016 to awarding delegates proportionally based on the straw poll vote cast during the precinct-level caucuses. This can be though of as the "Ron Paul rule", since its purpose is to prevent a repeat of what his supporters did in 2008 and 2012 where they lost the straw poll vote at the precinct caucuses in some states, but managed to capture large numbers of delegates from those states using wily tactics like "showing up at later meetings" that the opposition was unprepared to counter.

Democratic caucuses are much more interesting because the party imposes a 15% "viability threshold". If you vote for a candidate at your caucus precinct and that candidate doesn't receive 15% of the vote, there is another round of voting and you are allowed to either leave or cast a new vote for one of the candidates that did meet the threshold. These votes are sometimes cast on a private ballot, or sometimes people stand in various corners of the room while a head count is conducted and they all yell at the other groups while this is happening to get more supporters.

Aren't these caucuses undemocratic? Why shouldn't we just have a simple state-wide vote run by the state and award delegates proportionally?

Why should I have to pay for your stupid political party's dumb beauty contest?



CURRENT PRIMARY CALENDAR

2016 Presidential Primaries, Caucuses, and Conventions Chronologically

DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES
Handicapped list.

Listed in alphabetical order with their most significant political achievement.

  • , Secretary of State
  • , Senator from Vermont

2,804 delegates awarded so far of the 2,651 district, 909 at large, 491 pledged PLEOs, 713 unpledged PLEOs, or 4,764 total available delegates to the DNC.

DEMOCRATS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT

  • , Vice President
  • Lincoln Chafee, Governor of Rhode Island
  • , Governor of Maryland
  • , Senator from Virginia

REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES
Handicapped list.

Listed in alphabetical order with their most significant political achievement.

  • , Constitutionally Eligible

REPUBLICANS WHO HAVE DROPPED OUT

  • , Governor of Florida
  • , Neurosurgeon
  • , Governor of New Jersey
  • , Senator from Texas
  • Carly Fiorina, former CEO of HP
  • Jim Gilmore, Governor of Virginia
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXSFRMJhlgY, Senator from South Carolina
  • , Governor of Arkansas
  • , Governor of Louisiana
  • , Governor of Ohio
  • George Pataki, Governor of New York
  • , Senator from Kentucky
  • , Governor of Texas
  • , Senator from Florida
  • , Senator from Pennsylvania
  • , Governor of Michigan (not actually running, but has a great gif)
  • , Governor of Wisconsin

PRIMARY ELECTION RESOURCES

Frontloading HQ
The Green Papers
FiveThirtyEight's endorsement list















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Joementum fucked around with this message at 21:17 on Sep 13, 2016

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Rick Perry's new smarty pants glasses took him to the Ivy League tonight.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Bernie Sanders is working with a political aide to the Gore, Kerry, Kerrey, and Dukakis campaigns (insert obvious joke here) on forming a strategy around a Presidential campaign.

quote:

“If he runs, I’m going to help him,” Devine said in an interview. “He is not only a longtime client but a friend. I believe he could deliver an enormously powerful message that the country is waiting to hear right now and do it in a way that succeeds.”

Devine and Sanders, who first worked together on Sanders's campaigns in the 1990s, have been huddling in recent weeks, mapping out how the brusque progressive senator could navigate a primary and present a formidable challenge to Hillary Rodham Clinton, the frontrunner for the Democratic presidential nomination...

Sanders said again that he is inclined to run in the Democratic primary but has yet to make a final decision on campaign matters. Devine, in his interview, said running within the party “means you have an infrastructure and you don’t need to be on the outside, being a Ralph Nader-type candidate.”

Now, obviously, Sanders isn't going to win the nomination, but he appears to think he's got a shot at a serious-enough campaign that he'd be able to get into debates against Hillary and push the party agenda to the left. The rejection of a Nader-esque third party bid would be key to this.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Three of those four people won the Democratic nomination :ssh:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The host of Fuckabee looks to be back in the race, via Republican Whisperer Robert Costa.

quote:

Huckabee is scheduled to spend part of November holding private meetings with powerful GOP financiers in Las Vegas, New York, and California, gauging their interest in being bundlers for his possible campaign and asking for pledges of five-to six-figure donations to his aligned organizations. And he is planning two strategy sessions in December, in Little Rock and Destin, Fla., near his new Gulf Coast home, to discuss timing, potential staffing, and an opening pitch to voters.

In January, Huckabee will publish “God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy,” his latest manifesto on politics and culture.

“His heart is into it,” his daughter and political confidant Sarah Huckabee told The Washington Post in an interview Tuesday. “He is personally engaged and more aggressive in taking on meetings. He can’t wait to get back to South Carolina and Iowa.”

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I think he could have won the nomination in 2012, but 2016 is going to be much more competitive and his record isn't as recent or as impressive (to Republicans) as the other Governors who'll be trying.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

notthegoatseguy posted:

I think he could easily come in and be the establishment candidate.

When the establishment is trying to figure out where to throw their money they're going to look at Christie, Walker, and Kasich long before they get to the guy putting around Iowa signing copies of “God, Guns, Grits, and Gravy”. Langone and Kissinger were already trying to recruit Christie last time because they weren't satisfied with Mitt Romney.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

De Nomolos posted:

Can anyone here comment on the odds of getting to go to the convention as a delegate if you are a mere peasant or if you supported a losing candidate?

Probably zero, but you're in North Carolina, IIRC. In that state, delegates to the DNC are awarded proportionally by congressional district with a 15% viability threshold. So work your butt off for a candidate (and also donate a ton of cash if it's a major candidate) and if you suck up enough to their campaign and they do well enough in your CD, they might put you on the delegate slate.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Snyder has also said he would veto a bill that changes how Michigan awards EVs.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
We're shaping up to have a week of Southern state primaries in March, with Texas and Florida already on the 1st, Louisiana on the 5th, Alabama and Mississippi on the 8th, and Georgia looking to move to the 1st.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Joe Lieberman is now the co-chair (with Jon Huntsman) of No Labels.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Alter Ego posted:

I see either hide or hair of Penn, Howard Wolfson, or that puling little racist poo poo Lanny Davis, and I will find the nearest third-party candidate.

Lanny's already back. He sets up a table outside of the Benghazi hearings and hands out pro-Hillary pamphlets.

I'm totally serious.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The guy who is sponsoring the Michigan EV plan didn't even run again this year. They get a vote on it Monday, which will probably fail and which Snyder will veto even if it doesn't and then he's out of the legislature.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Pillowpants posted:

If all the states allotted EV's proportionally, would Romney have won?

Depends on the proportional scheme. The old Michigan idea was proportional by congressional district, which would have allowed Romney to win 226-209, but the new one is proportional based on the popular vote total.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

mcmagic posted:

Who exactly is his constituency...

Webb was supported by DKos and the Netroots early on with his 2006 Senate bid, mostly because of his opposition to the war in Iraq and because they knew they couldn't do much better in Virginia in 2006. Kos has since said that he's no longer on the Webbmentum train.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Keep in mind that Sanders' constituency is 95.3% white.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

The Warszawa posted:

If you're going to run for President in a party that increasingly relies on minority votes for viability, even as an issue candidate to raise awareness, you should probably think beyond your immediate constituency.

I agree. It's clearly something he'll have to get more experience doing.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The last President without a college degree was Harry Truman.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
I think Ted Cruz is the only potential Republican Presidential candidate who went to an Ivy, unless I'm missing someone.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Fried Chicken posted:

Where did Jeb go then?

His highest degree is a BA in Latin American Studies from UT Austin.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

My Imaginary GF posted:

Does Dartmoth count?

Yes, of course, though Rauner also went to HBS, so he'd be a double Ivy.

Not that it matters because he's not a potential Republican Presidential candidate.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

ToxicSlurpee posted:

College professors and the college educated have a tendency to vote left.

People with bachelors degrees tend to be more Republican than Democratic, while people with advanced degrees are more Democratic than Republican.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
The DNC has narrowed the list of cities for the convention to Columbus, New York, and Philadelphia. They have also narrowed the dates for the convention to the weeks of July 18, July 25, and August 22, following the RNC's lead on having an earlier convention, which is a great idea.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
There's a non-zero chance that Scott Brown is the Republican nominee and Professor Warren is the Democratic nominee.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Fulchrum posted:

There's nothing in the constitution that says a dog can't be president.

If you've got a 35 year old dog, congrats!

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
George Pataki spent the day touring New Hampshire. He's a Yale and Columbia grad, for what it's worth.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Bill Kristol believes it's 1968 once again and the Silent Majority is longing for a Nixon.

So at least we know that's not the case.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
With the bombshell that Rob Portman has decided not to lose the 2016 nomination, CNN finds someone named Willard Mitt Romney (I'll save you the Google, here's his Wikipedia article) leading with 20% in a crowded field. Ben Carson comes in second with 10%.

Meanwhile, Hillary's lead over Warren narrows from 57% to a mere 55% :ohdear:

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

evilweasel posted:

Webb is really the only other 'serious' candidate and nobody's going to win the Democratic nomination attacking Hillary from the right.

There's also the possibility that Webb doesn't run as a Democrat.

He won't win that way either, but he's been very critical of the party in recent years and it shouldn't be ruled out.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Aliquid posted:

By that CNN poll I'm seeing 45% for the moderate/business wing of the party (Romney, Bush, Christie, Ryan, Kasich), and 43% for Everyone Else. IMO this sends up huge warning flags for those of us hoping for a crazy candidate, as the clowncar vote will likely split and the businessfolk won't fight it out too much, being more likely to coalesce around a single candidate.

It's still too early and people are mostly going on name recognition. Even when the primaries start you'll see this spread because only hardcore partisans (a small minority) are paying any attention. As Weigel said on Twitter this morning, the Republican poll is basically a count of who's appeared on Hannity the most times in the last month.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Yup, Rand Paul's campaign is considering challenging a state law in court and arguing that it interferes with the power of the Federal government.

quote:

Another would be to challenge the law in court and argue the statute is unconstitutional when applied to federal races. "We believe that it cannot apply to federal offices," [Rand Paul campaign strategist Doug] Stafford said.

I know that nobody other than extreme political junkies are going to care about the hypocrisy here, but I still find it funny.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Imagine if Hillary Clinton had announced in the fall of 2007 that she wasn't running. That's what Mario Cuomo did in 1991, which is why the field was a mess.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

My Imaginary GF posted:

If anything, I'd say his vices are too normal.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/for-romney-no-coffee-but-coffee-ice-cream/ posted:

(AP) NANTUCKET, Mass. - Mitt Romney joins other observant Mormons in shunning alcohol and coffee. He apparently draws the line at ice cream.

The Republican presidential candidate ordered coffee ice cream at Millie's restaurant in Nantucket Saturday when he bought treats for his staff and mingled with diners. His aides selected flavors including vanilla, rocky road, butter pecan and birthday cake ice cream.

It's not clear that Romney took more than a bite or two as he shook hands and posed for pictures in the crowded and buzzing vacation eatery.

Mormons traditionally avoid alcohol and caffeine.

Romney aides shrugged off the selection, saying the candidate can have whatever kind of ice cream he likes.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Bernie has released a campaign manifesto economic policy plan.

quote:

* Invest in our crumbling infrastructure with a major program to create jobs by rebuilding roads, bridges, water systems, waste water plants, airports, railroads and schools.

* Transform energy systems away from fossil fuels to create jobs while beginning to reverse global warming and make the planet habitable for future generations.

* Develop new economic models to support workers in the United States instead of giving tax breaks to corporations which ship jobs to low-wage countries overseas.

* Make it easier for workers to join unions and bargain for higher wages and benefits.

* Raise the federal minimum wage from $7.25 an hour so no one who works 40 hours a week will live in poverty.

* Provide equal pay for women workers who now make 78 percent of what male counterparts make.

* Reform trade policies that have shuttered more than 60,000 factories and cost more than 4.9 million decent-paying manufacturing jobs.

* Make college affordable and provide affordable child care to restore America’s competitive edge compared to other nations.

* Break up big banks. The six largest banks now have assets equivalent to 61 percent of our gross domestic product, over $9.8 trillion. They underwrite more than half the mortgages in the country and issue more than two-thirds of all credit cards.

* Join the rest of the industrialized world with a Medicare-for-all health care system that provides better care at less cost.

* Expand Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and nutrition programs.

* Reform the tax code based on wage earners’ ability to pay and eliminate loopholes that let profitable corporations stash profits overseas and pay no U.S. federal income taxes.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

paragon1 posted:

I really want to see a split Republican convention in my lifetime guys. If Jeb runs there's no way that will happen. :smith:

It's highly unlikely to happen no matter who the candidates are until the parties decide to move away from the McGovern reformed primary system.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Romney's social media team was large, but couldn't get much done.



The link goes to a comparative study of the two campaigns' social media strategies that might be interesting.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
A big part of the convention bump is that the opposition goes dark that week since it knows that it can't compete on media. That's why the numbers re-align once the convention is over: the other candidate comes back and provides a contrast. Moving the dates of the conventions around won't do much unless they both decide to hold the convention at the same time.

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ
Potential 2016 rivals met tonight (with Ned Lamont looking on).

Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

My Imaginary GF posted:

admit it, you think Clinton would pick Sanders just like Clinton 1 wound up with Gore

You realize it'll give us 8 years of Bush after, right?

I'll play along, even though you're not being serious.

1. The Vice Presidential pick doesn't matter at all in terms of votes received in the general election.

2. Clinton is going to pick a boring white guy like Mark Warner as her running mate. If she was going to pick a VT politician, she'd be about a million times more likely to pick Howard Dean than Bernie Sanders and she's not going to pick Howard Dean (though it would not be a bad choice for her).

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Joementum
May 23, 2004

jesus christ

Nameless_Steve posted:

But when was the last time a Democratic VP was elected to a first term as POTUS? Just once: Martin Van Buren.

The problem with this is that Gore was (or nearly was) elected and the only reason that you're excluding Johnson and Truman is that they assumed office after their President died. Oh, and HHH nearly won in '68 and most likely would have won if Nixon hadn't illegally sabotaged the peace talks.

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