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I know it's probably a little early for this, but I'm looking at the Dem field for the first time since the 2014 midterms were settled and I'm thinking it's kind of weird. I don't think Clinton is as "inevitable" as everyone says, and some of the GOP folks, despite being pants on head crazy, seem viable. My biggest worry is President Rand but in a primary with people like Dr. Carson I don't see him winning any of their beloved straw polls anytime soon
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When're the first debates?
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Jan 9, 2015 14:39
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Joementum posted:RNC sanctioned debate schedule: 9 debates and change on the GOP side alone?? Oh god I'm rock loving hard right now
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Jan 16, 2015 22:01
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Are there any interesting and strong candidates gearing up for a run in the Democrat side? Is there a DNC approved debate schedule yet? One of my worst nightmares is that Hillary will mount a campaign similar to hers in 2008, mostly center right with few actual leftist policies, cruise to re-election in a sleepy primary, generating a minimal amount of noise and interest from both the Democratic base and the world at large. Am I off the mark? Somehow I don't even think Bernie Sanders will even hit the numbers needed to get into the debates.
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Jan 22, 2015 14:49
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Joementum posted:I'm reminded of the meeting in 2012 between Gingrich and Santorum where they tried to form a unity ticket to take out Mitt, but it all fell apart because they couldn't agree on who got to be President. Oh my god, I forgot about that. The amount of ego you need to have in order to even go through the motions of filing a run for president is truly insane.
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Jan 22, 2015 19:35
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Pinterest Mom posted:Mitt. Mitt. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqdNe8u-Jsg
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Feb 6, 2015 20:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6AlQiWatD4 Did this get posted yet? It's from CNN
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Mar 20, 2015 05:19
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Joementum posted:So far it's the standard Ted Cruz stump speech. where can I watch this?
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Mar 23, 2015 15:28
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lol saying "100,000 in student loans" as if 100,000 is a lot by today's standards
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Mar 23, 2015 15:30
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This last stretch of the speech strikes me as coming from a dude who hasn't even perused an article from The Economist in a doctor's waiting room
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Mar 23, 2015 15:36
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"Imagine a flat tax, with no deductions, which by default, would raise taxes on the blind and handicapped!"
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Mar 23, 2015 15:38
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One day, all members of our generation will look to each other and ask where we were during Ted Cruz's famous "Instead, Imagine" speech. We'll all remember fondly.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:41
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Who is this lady saying "that's horrible?" after every thing Ted Cruz says?
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Mar 23, 2015 15:43
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Three Olives posted:What happens with the flat tax idea when we start talking about things like the mortgage interest deduction? Cain never got far enough to explain how middle class people would hate the flat tax, right? The economists were just beginning to set in with the "actually, you kind of need deductions" at that time I think
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Mar 23, 2015 15:45
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"We" tore the Berlin Wall down? Ummmmmm....
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Mar 23, 2015 15:46
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Joementum posted:Cain actually did explain that he'd do away with that deduction, but he'd keep the charitable contribution deduction, which makes no sense, but whatever. Imagine, no taxes at all!! 0% taxes! Ted Cruz 2016!!!
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Mar 23, 2015 15:48
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Whoa, almost said "lovers" there! Careful, Cruz.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:50
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What the hell is this awful song? Feels like I'm buying groceries.
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Mar 23, 2015 15:52
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Joementum posted:Thank goodness they rehearsed this part. Top comment:  
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Mar 23, 2015 15:55
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a shameful boehner posted:Yeah, NAFTA was a colossally bad deal for workers throughout the western hemisphere and strongly contributed to the race to the bottom that's been going on the last 30 years. It's one of the worst things the Democrats did in the 90s. Do you have a link to further reading on this?
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Who else is even left in the "might announce" column? Trump and...?
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May 6, 2015 04:48
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Is it just me, or is the GOP field kind of... Crowded this year? Like, this has gotta be near historic for how many people are going to be running for a modern, mainstream election, no? Every time someone else announces, I get slightly excited to drink my way through the debates.
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May 19, 2015 19:05
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Anyone got that graph from 2012 that shows all the ridiculous contenders enjoying the thrill of the not-Romney bump before fading into obscurity? Some people are talking up Trump's recent boost in the polls a bit too much (not to mention Bernie's) and need to be disabused of their capacity to move forward in this election.
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Jul 11, 2015 00:41
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Joementum posted:The "not-Romney" bounces were cycles of a candidate having a nice media event (Cain winning the FL straw poll, Bachmann winning the IA straw poll, Gingrich being snarky in a debate, Santorum surging in a flawed CNN poll) followed by a couple weeks of them surging in the polls, which led to media scrutiny and occasionally negative advertising from Romney, which led to their downfall. This is well described in the chapter on the GOP nomination from The Gamble. Thanks for digging up that poll. People who seriously think Trump will endure the rigors of a presidential campaign and become the nominee are naive about what this race actually will require from the winner. Even discussing the possibility is a waste of time, albeit entertaining. That being said, there's a lingering question as to whether or not Trump is egotistical enough to make an independent run after (possible national humiliation) and pulling out. The first debate is August 6th, and it's GOP, so it's closer than we think. Marco Rubio is the smartest choice for the GOP IMHO but he needs to step it up a lot. The sad thing is that Trump has the strongest social media presence of any GOP candidate and that's kinda sad. They have a lot of catching up to do on the social media front. It's gonna be a massive factor in this election
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Does anyone here see anything in the way of a gameplan for Trump? I watched his speech and it was pretty insightful. He mentioned being somewhat surprised by how well his take on border security took off, and now he's just running with it. I don't think any of us here actually believes him to be sincere in running, but it's almost a satire of election year sloganeering in how quick he can rise to the top of an (admittedly weak) just by throwing some big numbers out there and chucking out red meat. I mean, he's clearly running to raise his "celebrity" profile, The Apprentice hasn't been a big show in years to the best of my knowledge, so what happens after he bows out? A consultancy position at Fox? I think he's just throwing whatever out there that he thinks will stick, especially in contrast to his much more liberal run in 2000 I believe it was. Will he really run as an independent? Surely he couldn't have the gall. Right? I mean, I personally believe him to be in it purely to get more twitter followers, but his "the outside world is our enemy! Kick out all the dangerous Mexicans" shtick is pretty dangerous and upsetting. I'm glad the debates are soon. It's just sad to me that a loud mouth bully with no real solutions and deep pockets, who knows all the red meat buttons to press, can do predictably manipulate the Republican base.
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The GOP has long lusted for a candidate like Trump. The proto fascist, nakedly oligarchal, bullying, constant red meat, Putin lite styling of Trump has always been what they've wanted. For two elections now they think they've lost for being too soft, too moderate, too middle of the road. They want a CPAC panelist, a conservative Facebook meme page given human form, policy be damned. The meaner he gets, the more bullying he gets, the more people will see him as "honest" and "speaking from his heart," totally the Christie game plan, only properly executed. Trump's got a cult of personality around him that will be hard to pierce and the smarter candidates will take shots at him to further establish themselves and bring him down, leading to an unprecedented mudslinging bloodbath. If any of these dopes are smart at all they'll bring up Trump's past campaigns, ran along much more liberal lines. The full debate list gets revealed the 4th. I really hope Christie is on it. This latest trend of having to say the absolute most outrageous red meat comments possible to even get noticed in a historically crowded field of 17 candidates seems like it can only work to undermine whichever candidate comes forward as the eventual nominee. I literally cannot wait for Thursday.
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When is this loving debate? I'm in EST and will be in permanent half chub until it's on. Jesus Christ WHY IS THIS DEBATE SO PERFECT? Donald Trump is a credible front runner and everyone has to attack him to distinguish themselves. I'm crying.
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Aug 5, 2015 17:19
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Any update as to whether or not Bernie was able to successfully push for more debates? The relative lack of democratic debates when they're smashing rating records (albeit because Trump) on the GOP side seems like somewhat of an oversight.
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Sep 7, 2015 15:35
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Is anyone running a sadder campaign than him? John Gilmore maybe?
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Sep 19, 2015 19:12
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If Trump wins even a single contest it makes any actually viable candidate's path to the White House that much harder and reflects poorly on the GOP. Hence, I just bought a hat.
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Joementum posted:"Is there anyone in this room who doesn't negotiate deals? Probably more than any other room I've spoken to." 
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God I can't wait until at least Iowa is behind us. Every page it's chicken little bullshit about Trump. I'd be surprised if he even won a single contest, and if he does, it's an implicit condemnation of the Republican party, and it makes Hillary/Bernie's election path that much easier.
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I can't wait till people have actually voted so that all this inane horse trading bullshit has substance to it. Isn't there a debate on January 3rd?
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At this point I feel like it's because of the concern that his people don't/won't vote.
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Jan 14, 2016 23:41
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I hope Trump becomes the nominee because he is unelectable and the Republican party may learn a good lesson from his defeat. How can I help make him the nominee?
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Any polls showing anyone leading as we head into Nevada? A Trump win tonight would be delicious. As delicious as a Trump Steak. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyONt_ZH_aw
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Feb 23, 2016 18:48
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Tonight is gonna be loving delicious.
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Mar 1, 2016 17:40
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What if Trump is arrogant enough to nominate Christie to be his VP??
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Joementum posted:Will have a more precise count later in the day, but Trump clearly leads the delegate count after Super Tuesday so, as promised: there is a chance that Donald Trump will be the nominee of the Republican Party. In fact, it's quite likely! Do you think there will be a down-ballot impact of Trump? Whether positive (encouraging more lovable racist kooks to run) or negative (Donald Trump at the top of the R side? Eugh, my God)?
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