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People generally liked All Might’s power suit and Bakugo killing that baby. Though the last chapter kind of hurt the impact of the latter.
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I really liked the Overhaul arc, but I think it's also the point where the manga started having its cast bloat issues as more characters outside the school were introduced while the rest of the call outside of the Deku, Bakugo, Todoroki trio started to fade into the background. Like, Uraraka and Tsuyu were also in that arc, but their big fight of the arc happened entirely off screen.
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Apr 10, 2024 15:06
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bobjr posted:People generally liked All Might’s power suit and Bakugo killing that baby. Though the last chapter kind of hurt the impact of the latter. Bakugo fighting a baby on live television really is the most Bakugo thing imaginable. Rhonne posted:I really liked the Overhaul arc, but I think it's also the point where the manga started having its cast bloat issues as more characters outside the school were introduced while the rest of the call outside of the Deku, Bakugo, Todoroki trio started to fade into the background. Like, Uraraka and Tsuyu were also in that arc, but their big fight of the arc happened entirely off screen. Nejire also was the only member of the Big Three who didn't get to show off why she had that title. I think her Quirk also is overall treated as less impressive than either of the other two.
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Apr 10, 2024 15:19
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"bakugo fought a baby" was, like most of MHA, far better as a meme or idea than it was in execution. he didn't even kill the baby. pathetic.
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Apr 10, 2024 15:32
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There would be a lot more leeway given to MHA if the fights were, you know, better. Far too many of them come down to one side punching harder without any creativity or tricks or anything, or even at least a cathartic buildup and release (Deku vs Muscular, U.S. Smash, Endeavor/Hawks vs High-End). It's a big part of why Shigaraki vs. Everyone sucked badly, everyone lined up to deliver their hardest punch and he just shrugged all of them off. Do you remember anything about the final Shoto vs. Dabi fight?
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Apr 10, 2024 15:42
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Mymla posted:??? Despite childhood memories of Toonami constantly restarting the show and Freeza seeming like unending bullshit, the pacing is actually pretty brisk. They know Freeza can transform before the fight starts, and he says early on, "btw I have 2 more transformations besides this first one." He doesn't just unexpectedly keep pulling new powerups out of his rear end forever. The fight against him also ended in half the time this battle with Shigaraki/AFO has been going on.
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Apr 10, 2024 17:39
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bobjr posted:People generally liked All Might’s power suit and Bakugo killing that baby. Though the last chapter kind of hurt the impact of the latter. I've generally been pretty positive on all of the finale up until this chapter and when Shigaraki was shrugging off everything to an annoying extent. Toga, All Might beating up Kid AfO and Bakugo fighting a baby were definite highlights though.
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Apr 10, 2024 17:42
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The slugfest between Shigaraki and everyone on the floating UA building went on way too long. Everything else was pretty alright IMO. I liked armored All Might vs AFO a lot.
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Apr 10, 2024 17:45
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I've also liked quite a lot of this finale. Though I admit it's pretty clear that there's a "Trying to hit every planned beat, but also clearly not giving time to breathe" air to it all. This has been a twist I have not liked and I was always negative on AFO being involved because I really did gel with Horikoshi's "The battle between All Might and AFO should be seen as the finale of its own manga." And he's right... including the part where a sequel story bringing back the defeated villain undermines that moment.
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Apr 10, 2024 21:13
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Gruckles posted:Despite childhood memories of Toonami constantly restarting the show and Freeza seeming like unending bullshit, the pacing is actually pretty brisk. They know Freeza can transform before the fight starts, and he says early on, "btw I have 2 more transformations besides this first one." He doesn't just unexpectedly keep pulling new powerups out of his rear end forever. this (and Endorph's post), but also sorry but if you read/watched Dragon Ball up to that point and thought that the main antagonist of a big part of the story was going to lose to Krillin and Gohan while Goku took a nap then I don't know what to tell you "Freeza didn't lose to Piccolo because he turned into H.R Giger" is awesome, "Shigaraki can't be Punched Hard because he has too many hands or whatever" is not
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Apr 10, 2024 21:37
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Bleck posted:this (and Endorph's post), but also sorry but if you read/watched Dragon Ball up to that point and thought that the main antagonist of a big part of the story was going to lose to Krillin and Gohan while Goku took a nap then I don't know what to tell you That's literally what happened to Vegeta. (I know what you're saying just pointing out "Goku is disabled and Gohan and Krillin have to fight the final boss" is how the previous arc ended, with a tie-in with Yajirobi.)
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ImpAtom posted:That's literally what happened to Vegeta. I will not stand for this disrespect of Yajirobe
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Gruckles posted:Despite childhood memories of Toonami constantly restarting the show and Freeza seeming like unending bullshit, the pacing is actually pretty brisk. They know Freeza can transform before the fight starts, and he says early on, "btw I have 2 more transformations besides this first one." He doesn't just unexpectedly keep pulling new powerups out of his rear end forever. I watched dragon ball kai a few months ago and the pacing is absolutely not brisk, not even after it's been edited down to watchable levels.
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Apr 10, 2024 22:08
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Bleck posted:I will not stand for this disrespect of Yajirobe More series need to have a Yajirobe. Some dude who shows up and effortlessly trounces someone who wiped the floor with the main protag, but does not feel like getting into all this nonsense and fucks off to hang with his cat and eat beans.
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Apr 10, 2024 22:38
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PringleCreamEgg posted:More series need to have a Yajirobe. Some dude who shows up and effortlessly trounces someone who wiped the floor with the main protag, but does not feel like getting into all this nonsense and fucks off to hang with his cat and eat beans. We also call that a Kuwabara.
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Apr 10, 2024 22:41
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Mymla posted:I watched dragon ball kai a few months ago and the pacing is absolutely not brisk, not even after it's been edited down to watchable levels. I just finished my Kai recently and I had no issue with Frieza at all, but everything from Super/Evil Buu onwards was pretty much unwatchable.
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ImpAtom posted:We also call that a Kuwabara. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nScJwkDWvJA
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ImpAtom posted:That's literally what happened to Vegeta.
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Endorph posted:to be fair the difference is goku did fight and heavily damage vegeta and gohan/krillin/yajirobe were just the people who had to desperately work to finish him off. (and technically, both the spirit bomb and turning gohan into an ape were goku's ideas and hes the one who started them, he just wasnt able to physically hit vegeta with them). in the frieza fight's case goku hadnt even seen him while gohan, krillin, vegeta, and piccolo were fighting him. Oh yeah, 100% accurate
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Apr 10, 2024 23:01
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ImpAtom posted:We also call that a Kuwabara. In a cast of great characters Kuwabara might just be the best out of them all
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FireWorksWell posted:In a cast of great characters Kuwabara might just be the best out of them all My opinion after over 20 years of watching and re-watching YYH is that it is entirely carried by Yusuke, Kuwabara, and the bad guys, with an assist from Genkai whenever she shows up. Kurama and Hiei have really lost any appeal for me as they feel so much less realized and interesting than our two human heroes. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a major reason why Three Kings is so disliked. I enjoy where Kuwabara's character ends up, but his absence really hurts the story, and neither Hei nor Kurama could come close to picking up the slack.
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NikkolasKing posted:My opinion after over 20 years of watching and re-watching YYH is that it is entirely carried by Yusuke, Kuwabara, and the bad guys, with an assist from Genkai whenever she shows up. Kurama and Hiei have really lost any appeal for me as they feel so much less realized and interesting than our two human heroes. I only read the latter half of YYH and not watched it but lack of Kuwabara aside, Three Kings just felt rushed to all hell and iirc Yusuke got the big share of screen time there regardless with the two demons having little to do. And then there was something to do with a terrorist cult after that. But I did like the little series of "where are they now"s at the very end, at least.
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Apr 10, 2024 23:45
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So really it should be called a Sabat.
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Dog Kisser posted:Also why Vigilantes is good tbh. Koichi's quirk was a very middling meh quirk that would have been only a fun party trick until he decided to train it heavily. This isn't really true. Even at the very start of the series, Koichi's quirk was "a better version of the top hero Ingenium's." It was always an extremely strong movement quirk. Gruckles posted:Despite childhood memories of Toonami constantly restarting the show and Freeza seeming like unending bullshit, the pacing is actually pretty brisk. They know Freeza can transform before the fight starts, and he says early on, "btw I have 2 more transformations besides this first one." He doesn't just unexpectedly keep pulling new powerups out of his rear end forever. It's important to note that DBZ's manga pacing is radically better than its anime pacing. And the manga is the best comparison, since we're talking about the MHA manga. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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also yeah even with kais 'edits' it still retains a lot of filler thats just inherently baked into the fights in terms of how the anime portrayed them. most of its cuts are just episodes that are entirely filler. so the anime pacing, even in kai, is still a lot slower than the dbz manga
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Is there a single shonen manga to anime adaptation that has good pacing? Honest question, I haven't seen a lot of the big names.
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FMA Brotherhood was pretty good about that (though the final act of the story does go on for a while), I also think Chainsaw Man does a good job with it because it wasn't afraid to massage the material a bit to find good episodic stories, which always helps
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Bleck posted:Is there a single shonen manga to anime adaptation that has good pacing? Honest question, I haven't seen a lot of the big names. A lot of stuff that comes out either near the end of a series or after it has finished airing tends to do a lot better than anything coming out as a series is being published.
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Bleck posted:Is there a single shonen manga to anime adaptation that has good pacing? Honest question, I haven't seen a lot of the big names. There is no case for saying the MHA anime has bad pacing. It's extremely to the point without feeling rushed.
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NikkolasKing posted:There is no case for saying the MHA anime has bad pacing. It's extremely to the point without feeling rushed. Season 1 has terrible pacing. It was the natural ending point, but it's 9 episodes of content stretched out to a full cour.
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Also the anime inherits the pacing problems of the manga (Joint Training) and creates a bunch of its own (Joint Training being a full loving cour)
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oh jay posted:Season 1 has terrible pacing. It was the natural ending point, but it's 9 episodes of content stretched out to a full cour.
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Apr 11, 2024 02:05
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Something is bugging me about the chapter. Why is Yoichi gone? Didn't Deku give One For All to Shigaraki?
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Shinjobi posted:Mineta will win by shouting "I love titties" and it would be the least batshit thing to happen in the last year of the series.  We are 100% in play, folks.
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Casey Finnigan posted:toga will show up one last time to say uraraka.... ur a baka and then stab her in the back and uraraka will die. Sorry for spoilers That ending is chanelling "Joran: Princess of Snow and Blood" vibes. But Uraraka actually contributed so not quite.
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Apr 11, 2024 19:09
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Mirio is so dope. What a cool power
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NikkolasKing posted:There is no case for saying the MHA anime has bad pacing. It's extremely to the point without feeling rushed. Okay but when was the last time you watched something that wasn't anime
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Bleck posted:Is there a single shonen manga to anime adaptation that has good pacing? Honest question, I haven't seen a lot of the big names. Dr. Stone?
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Shokugeki’s pacing was also good and it really improved on the manga at parts minus the second half of the series being upsetting for how bad it got
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I think there's "good pacing for a shounen" and "good pacing for a TV show" and fewer things hit that second mark
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