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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


RareAcumen posted:

I recommend everyone click through and take a look at that header. I'd post it here if I could've.

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Jan 20, 2017


Fabricated posted:

Probably Midoriya's worst character moment imo

... for a character who is almost pathologically self-sacrificing, right after a debacle of a raid that killed one hero and stripped the powers of another, to offer to give up his own powers so that another person wouldn't suffer, is a bad character moment?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I like that this manga is seemingly returning to its breakneck pacing after how long the Overhaul arc took. Even the School Festival arc took its time, whereas it's looking like this arc might wrap in a few more chapters.

Dr Subterfuge posted:

It's going to be interesting to see what kind of mileage he's going to be able to get out of emulating All Might. He's already been told he should forge his own path.

Endeavor emulating All Might in a very public battle and then immediately getting cheesed by a member of the LoV would be a major step forward for their goals and establish them as a very serious problem for Japanese society, as well as show quite clearly how the whole "Symbol of Peace" idea isn't really workable for anyone other than All Might.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


About Dabi's appearance... are these skin grafts stapled to his burned skin? For his face, fingers, and chest.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Roland Jones posted:

Also, on the topic of Dabi being Todoroki Touya, besides all the heavy hints we've been getting, I'm going to say that something someone said is a sign that he's not a Todoroki a chapter or two ago is actually possibly evidence that he is: The blue fire he makes. The person (can't remember who, sorry) said that since Endeavor has normal fire, they're probably entirely different fire quirks, but what I'm thinking is, Endeavor wanted to combine his quirk with Rei's to make an even better hero quirk and all that, and prior to Shoto all the attempts were "failures". So, what if for one kid their quirks did at least partially fuse, but instead of a super-quirk like Shoto's, the fire and ice made... Blue fire. That'd likely be a pretty enraging failure to Endeavor, a cosmetic upgrade to his own flames rather than something better.

(Or maybe it just manifested as regular fire at first, before developing, since that's a possibility too, and someone, possibly the same poster I'm thinking of above, made the point that if Dabi is Endeavor's son it seems like he and the others should have possibly made the connection between the blue flames and Touya. We'll see, I suppose.)

Natsu mentions this chapter that Endeavor deliberately kept everyone in his family separated from Todoroki and so they didn't know anything about him. Endeavor's view of Dabi was obscured by his annihilated eye and extreme combat fatigue, but Todoroki got a very good look at Dabi before he vanished into Kurogiri's portal. If the other siblings were deliberately kept separate from Todoroki then that'd explain him not recognizing Dabi -- either that, or Todoroki was too young to remember him when he was driven away from the family / presumed killed by Endeavor.

That's if Dabi is Touya, anyway.

Zebia posted:

I have a feeling that when Dabi's quirk manifested it was so powerful that it engulfed his body and that's why he has skin stapled all over him. It would probably be something that Endeavor was ashamed of. Or who knows, maybe Endeavor was so frustrated that his first child didn't come out the way he wanted that he burned him, though that possibility is so dark that it would once again make Endeavor completely unredeemable.

I'm curious to see what the other translations are of that panel where Endeavor reflects on him ending a person's future.

As another possibility, Touya could have gotten fed up with Endeavor, tried to fight him, and got scorched.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I wonder what the significance of Deku's hand being the only solid part of his body in that dream/vision is.

All Might is wispy/smoky which I think speaks to that he's not dead yet and not fully part of the One For All collective. The other holders of OFA are fully solid and in clear view, and I don't remember where it was said but I'm pretty sure everyone prior to All Might is dead now. Deku's hand is the hand that he wrecked almost to the point of uselessness, so does that mean that the power from that hand is now fully integrated with the OFA collective?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Remembered something, which is that Dabi joined the LoV because he was inspired by Stain. If Dabi is Touya, then it stands to reason that he'd have an enormous problem with heroes by way of Endeavor being accepted by hero society as the #2, and Stain talking about how heroes are degenerate and self-serving would strike a chord with Touya-Dabi.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Roland Jones posted:

This is also the basis for my favorite crazy theory I've seen, even if it just makes no sense otherwise: That the next holder of One For All will be Shimura Tenko.

The manga hasn't really ever used English puns to this point. "Juu" is the Japanese word for Ten, and we've only seen a couple characters so far that've had that in their names, and they've been extremely background characters.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Mirage posted:

Thought experiment: How long would it take a person to grow enough hair to weave a full-body costume, plus cape, out of it?

Was it 100% his hair or just had his hair interwoven with other fabrics?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Waffleman_ posted:

I really hope the Internship/Overhaul arc is compressed a bit, because by chapters, it's pretty much enough material for an entire 24 episode season.

Half of the chapters are dedicated to fights, though, which tend to get converted at a 3-to-1 or 4-to-1 ratio.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Since Gran Torino had to train All Might, I wonder if there was stuff about One For All that Yagi didn't know about, but Nana did, that she didn't have time to teach him before she died. And since All Might took to using it so readily he probably didn't feel the need to explore the limits of OFA. He apparently didn't have these dreams or else he would have warned Deku about it.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Viridiant posted:

I know people have said 'no' to this but I'll explain why it can't be the case: One For All didn't exist until All For One gave his brother a quirk that could stockpile power, which combined with his brother's until-then unknown quirk of being able to transfer his quirk to other people.

If One For All can transfer two quirks (the pass-on quirk and the stockpile quirk) then it stands to reason it'd also be able to transfer the other quirks of the successors.

As a side note, I always thought it was odd that All For One could give quirks as easily as he could take quirks. My original understanding (back before Kamino) was that AFO stole quirks for himself, while his brother got the other half of the Quirk Transfer ability, being able to give quirks to others. But apparently AFO can both take and give, while OFA1 could only give.

Going back and rereading it, though, it seems All Might mentions right from the first time we learn about AFO that he could give quirks to other too, but that there was a risk of overloading them and making them brain-dead Nomus.

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SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Speaking of bad writing and delivery, I felt like today's was definitely one of these episodes where it comes across much better played back at 2x speed instead of having to sit through everyone slowly mumbling "Everyone...!"

I didn't remember the Aoyama/Iida and Bakugo/meatman thing being this tedious in the manga but I guess I read through these chapters pretty quickly.

Mulderman posted:

I think Shouto explained it best.
Endeavor the hero is cool and interesting.
Endeavor the person is a piece of poo poo and has a lot of work ahead of him.

Right; this arc was when we finally got to see Endeavor do hero stuff instead of being a jerk to Todoroki or Deku.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


MonsterEnvy posted:

Well it's not All Mights theme.

I think that was his point: All Might proclaims that he's here, so everything will be fine. Endeavor threatens "Here I come" and that the villains had better watch out.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Shere posted:

IIRC Stain had a problem with heroes even being compensated. I believe he gave All Might a pass because Stain is an inconsistent lunatic.

All Might got a pass because he actually reduced crime by being the Symbol of Peace. Other heroes only address the symptoms without actually doing anything to reduce the frequency of these symptoms or the causes of these symptoms, while also drawing consistent paychecks and celebration for doing so.

I think Stain would have approved of Hawks alongside All Might, as Hawks' goal is to create a society where heroes are unnecessary.

Obviously Stain is a psychopathic bloodgargler but I don't think it's useful to scoff at his ideology given that it's clearly meant by the author to be an actual criticism of how in-universe Japanese society has organized around its heroes and how these heroes function in society.

One thing I want to draw attention to is the repeated emphasis on "hero", in a manga that's deeply based on Western superhero books, with one (1) actual Superhero in the story

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Monoma is going to eat it hard against Shinso.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


gmq posted:

I don't know, half of that is fights and those get pretty compressed in the anime

Fight chapters tend to get adapted at between a 4 and 3:1 ratio, while non-fight chapters usually go 2:1. For reference: http://bokunoheroacademia.wikia.com/wiki/Story_Arcs

I'm thinking the Overhaul raid will take about 16 episodes, leaving 8 episodes for the School Festival and Gentle.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


symbolic posted:

I've been figuring it's the ability to amputate her limbs at will and regrow them near-instantly, so in my imagination we're going to end up with an anime version of Spongebob making a chain of his own arms.

Isn't that just Shoji?

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Actually, one thing I'm looking forward to in the upcoming arc is to finally see some Class 1-A students finally taking a clear loss for once (against a non-1A person, that is).

Unless we get another Hero License turnout and 1-A wins every single fight :geno:

Off the top of my head, everyone in 1-A has only lost to someone else inside 1-A (or a teacher) except for Iida getting shut down by Stain.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Hate-Senpai posted:

Holy poo poo Momo creating springs to jump off them to continue attacking the enemy she launched is super loving neat too.

Yaoyorozu's power is super good for fighting but we've mostly only seen it used defensively or tactically.

I guess that'll come when the students are getting more actual hero experience but that's probably a couple years off.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I wouldn't be surprised to see the classes get shuffled once Year 2 starts.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017



Kendo vs Momo was never not going to happen huh?

B-2 and 5-A are the only teams to strike a team pose.

I think 5-B, with the addition of Shinso making it so that Deku can't give direction to his team and taking advantage of Mineta and Mina being yappy, has the potential to upset 5-A. Hoping for a rare Deku loss here.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Looking again at the matchups, it looks like Todoroki's going up against the recommended student from 1-B, Juzo Honenuki. I didn't recognize him at first because of the helmet he's wearing.

Normally I'd put money on Todoroki singlehandedly wiping Team B-3, as Tetsutetsu/Tsunotori/Kaibara seem to be all melee fighters, but Honenuki's quirk puts a wrench into that. He'll probably end up softening Todoroki's ice into uselessness.

The Team 4 matchup is also interesting -- there's two guys (Bondo, Awase) who can disable Bakugo pretty effectively.

Team 2 has three students with quirks that interact with light going up against Black.

I'm overall looking forward to see what 1-B can do, as 1-A on paper seems to have the edge since not only are their quirks much more obviously combat-oriented, they also have had a lot of development and active application of what they can do. We haven't gotten to see that from most of 1-B until now.

SKULL.GIF fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Aug 24, 2018

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Jan 20, 2017


Eej posted:

I'm surprised that Shinsou showed up again and I'm gonna bet that it was because of his ridiculous popularity after he showed up in the anime

I don't think so, Horikoshi has been setting this up for a few years now. From a Reddit comment:

quote:

I've seen some people saying that Shinsou suddenly appeared out of nowhere (not in this thread thankfully), but just in case, let me remind you that Horikoshi has been building this up as early as chapter 70:

Chapter 70 - seen with Aizawa
Chapter 121 - rougher = getting bulkier through possibly training
Chapter 173 - literally broke a plank of wood with his bare hands

And now Chapter 194. In this panel, Deku is referring to the Chapter 70 scene above.

Also the length of chapters in between the Shinsou appearances has the running joke that he appears at least once a year to appease fans.... because there are approximately 52 chapters per year and when you do the math. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Mraagvpeine posted:

I was going to make a comment suggesting each dorm will look after a kid and show them the ropes or something, but looking over it again each dorm has enough space for 32 people, and each class currently has 20. This makes me wonder if the whole "do poorly and you'll get replaced by a kid from General or even Support" is going to be another "ruse" by Aizawa.

I suggested earlier that there might be a reshuffling of the two classes, but now that you mention 32, I wonder whether it won't be that the two classes merge while dropping the 8 worst-performing students or something.

Aizawa's penchant for expelling students has to come up at some point, right?

We haven't heard much about UA's second- and third-year students outside the Sannin, but there's no mention of Class 2-A or 3-B.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Eej posted:

I understand that narratively speaking 2B has to be roughly equal for there to be tension but it is kind of ridiculous that a class of regular students is working over kids who literally fought the yakuza

They're not just regular students, though, they're some of the country's top hero recruits being trained by top-tier teachers at an exclusive academy. The training also isn't just about developing their quirks, it's for teaching them how to dynamically work with other heroes to take down dangerous and specialized villains.

On top of that, from Class 1-A only Deku and Kirishima had significant experience fighting against Yakuza who were worth their while. Ochaco/Tsuyu had extensive support from pro heroes and the police in their fights.

Kirishima got flung into a Quirk that hard-counters him and captured -- not a great showing. Tsuyu, however, after being caught off guard came back and captured one of B1's two capture specialists and quickly came up with a plan to confuse and exploit Shishida. I'd say that's pretty good.

edit: I think 1-A's "advantage" in live combat is being really overblown here. It's really just the USJ for most of them. 1-A and 1-B both got the same experience out of the Training Forest raid. Deku/Iida/Todoroki/Kirishima have most of the actual experience in live combat, and that's mostly a combination of having fought Stain and going off to pull off one (1) maneuver to rescue Bakugo. The rest of the class have been going through more or less standard internships and training.

It's Deku really that has way, way more experience than anyone else: USJ, Stain, Muscular, Overhaul, Gentle Criminal. I think when Team 5 is fighting everyone will be surprised at how far Deku's come -- they haven't actually gotten to see him fight since the license exam.

SKULL.GIF fucked around with this message at 19:03 on Aug 31, 2018

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Jan 20, 2017


Eej posted:

I feel like this is a really odd distinction to make considering they were all thrown into life threatening combat all the same.

I think there's a difference between delivering an assist for a very experienced pro hero (Ryukyuu) and a student who's practically already a hero (Nejire), and having to no-holds-barred brawl against Rappa and Overhaul knowing that if you lose you're likely to be killed. Granted you could probably fairly move Kirishima into the former category considering Fatgum was right next to him.

My greater point was more that Deku is mostly the one who's actually gotten frequent combat experience compared to the rest of the class, anyway, despite 1-A's reputation. People like Kaminari and Kouda are about as experienced as the 1-B students.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Dolash posted:

...I wonder how generous the terms are for the "responding" condition? Could Shinso ask the same question as a teammate very quietly at the same time and take control of someone who thought they were replying to the teammate? The voice-mod trick shows you don't have to think you're replying to him for it to work. Does the reply have to make sense? Are you allowed to say something that isn't phrased as a response but just so happens to incidentally answer his question? Could he just whisper "hey do me a favor and say literally anything" right before you speak and that counts, or do you actually need to hear him speak?

I doubt we'll actually get to see a huge pile of edge cases get explored but it's kind of funny trying to figure out the hard limits of his power.

Let's start with a few rules that've been established:

1. Shinso must concentrate on the target and think "I will brainwash this person" to be able to do it. It doesn't work if he's doesn't have the clear and deliberate mental intent to do so.
2. Shinso has strong doubts he can brainwash multiple people at the same time, and suspects he'd just pass out if he tried. (We know he can brainwash multiple targets sequentially, as he was able to do it to Twin Impact and Ojiro during the sports festival.)
3. The target must respond to Shinso's words, direct from him. Converting his voice to electronic signals renders the attempt ineffective. The voice can be manipulated, but it must originate from Shinso himself.
3a. Why does manipulating Shinso's voice work fine but not converting it to an electronic signal? I think because the process of converting it to a new signal means it comes from a new source. Shinso is speaking to a, well, speaker, and the speaker creates a new sound from its drums on reaction to the inputs Shinso is giving it. This is pretty much a middleman.
4. When the person is successfully brainwashed, they can't do anything that requires actual intelligent thought. Shinso can order the body to act, but he can't make it think.

From this point on is just Friday night speculation for fun:

I think that between the concentration and the requirement that the person respond to Shinso, it's some kind of psychic power that lets Shinso control the target's brainwaves and puppeteer the body. The response is the signal Shinso needs to detect and hack into the brain, kind of like moving while you're in Jurassic Park T-rex vision. It has to be a response specifically to what Shinso's saying (even if you don't think it's Shinso), because the reaction to Shinso's words itself lets Shinso recognize the brain activity and interfere with it. While the brain activity is interfered with, the person can't actually think (incidentally, this explains the memory loss), but Shinso can use his voice to continue "hacking" the brain ie manipulating the brain activity and its response to his words to get the body to do things.

My speculative answers to your four questions, in order: No, maybe, no, and the last question is the interesting one and what got me to think about it. It would need to be an actual reaction to what Shinso is saying, and you would need to express it in a way that he can recognize it. If he whispers it and you don't hear it, then you aren't actually reacting, and thus Shinso can't read the brain activity to hack it.

The power possibly stems from Horikoshi thinking about it something like this: "If I say something and someone responds to what I say, doesn't that mean I have control over how their brain activity works for that moment?" and then running with the concept to create Shinso's quirk. e.g., by insulting someone's mom, and getting them to shout angrily at me, with my words I've successfully generated emotion and stress in their brain.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


PringleCreamEgg posted:

I just hope we get to see all the matches and not just the first and last.

It's been dozens of chapters since we've actually got to see the class do anything. This is a great opportunity for Horikoshi to show either how far they've all come, or how much distance the class's stars are creating between themselves and their peers, and I don't think he'll pass on it.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


A big issue with the Overhaul arc wasn't just the pacing, it was also that the fights were really difficult to figure out what was actually going on. In particular Suneater vs the trash trio and then the early stages of Deku vs. Overhaul where it's an endless barrage of linework.

I have high hopes for the anime's adaptation of this arc even with my overall low opinion of the adaptation.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Manatee Cannon posted:

it wouldn't help the pacing but I wonder if the girls' fight will get more screen time in the anime

I think they definitely will. The anime, whatever its faults, has shown a strong willingness to flesh out the rest of the class and show us what the manga implied but didn't have time to show. On top of that, Ochaco and Tsuyu are two of the more popular characters, and I imagine Nejire and Ryukyuu will also be very well-received.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Patware posted:

not trying to come at you, legit curious: what are your issues with the adaptation?

It's more of an issue with anime adaptations of manga in general than with BNHA's adaptation in particular, but I can't help but consistently notice all the cost-cutting and shortcuts they use to save on budgets for the fighty episodes. For example, yesterday's episode was stuffed full of extra-slow flashbacks and long shots of characters standing there with not much else other than their mouth moving. It's to the point where I watch the anime episodes at 2x speed and slow down for the fight scenes.

The anime also frequently "cheats" by having a still shot but panning over it to make it look as if there's action.

When there's actually fighting going on it's pretty good but the in-between stuff really bugs me, and sometimes they break up the fighting with the in-between stuff which kills the hype.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Blockhouse posted:

of course her birthday is march 1st

of course

I don't follow

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Jan 20, 2017


Roland Jones posted:

MS also has a translation up, by the way, and while the fonts they use aren't as pretty it looks like they're actually the more accurate translation this time around, at least at some points; among other things, they don't have Kaminari saying/thinking the exact opposite of what he means and what happens on page 7.

Edit: On the other hand some of their dialog sounds worse, and there's a typo or two, so, neither one's perfect.

Thanks for the heads up on this, this was a much clearer and IMO overall better translation. I found it interesting comparing the differences between the two translations.

The link, by the way: https://readms.net/r/my_hero_academia/197/5331/1

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Frogwoman is so much cooler of a hero concept than Spiderman ever was.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Patware posted:

MHA is a pretty standard shounen, but it's the highest execution of the form to date IMO

I would like to submit Eyeshield 21 for consideration but I do agree MHA is one of the very best takes on the genre I've ever read.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


Wahad posted:

Do we know the other two recommended kids? Momo and Todoroki in Class A, but who are the others?

Juzo Honenuki, the softening quirk guy from 1-B is the third, and the fourth was going to be Inasa Yoarashi but he dropped out after Todoroki cold-shouldered him.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


This chapter was great, though I'm waiting for the other scanlation to pop up since I feel like a couple of the panels here got translated weird.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017


I wonder if mushroom girl will go full Cordyceps or if it'll just be spores, hallucinogenic or otherwise

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Jan 20, 2017


Hihohe posted:

Also whats this sound effect?


First symbol is po for sure, second symbol looks like a rotated yu but I don't recognize it. ^^^ Oh it's mu, I see it now, whoops.

SKULL.GIF fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Sep 20, 2018

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