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thrakkorzog posted:Student ID's aren't sufficient ID because there are plenty of foreign nationals who also attend American Universities. So a a student ID card doesn't mean someone is actually a citizen. It's not quite as common but you don't need to be a US citizen to get a CCW license which is an acceptable form of ID, regardless of how much paperwork you have to do, so this logic doesn't work out. EDIT: same goes for drivers licenses, state ID cards, and most valid forms of ID I can think of. I'm pretty sure the real reason Student ID's aren't valid is because you'd only be able to take public university ID and there'd be a large chance for confusion. Either that or you'd have to accept Employer ID's and other privately issued ID as valid too and the already vanishingly small justification for doing voter id law at all is made even more absurd. Babby Formed fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Nov 22, 2014 |
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computer parts posted:That's why they require something with your address, so they can confirm it's Jim Smith of 30th street and not Jim Smith of 105th street. Even back in the day a reasonable form of ID was a power bill with your name and address on it. Fair point, though I've never had to deal with that since my precinct/whatever is small enough that all they've ever asked me for is my name. (And I've never really had to wait in line, funny how that works in the 95% white suburbs versus cities in some states.)
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I'm not surprised that it hasn't been suggested (even voter suppression reasons aside).
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computer parts posted:That's why they require something with your address, so they can confirm it's Jim Smith of 30th street and not Jim Smith of 105th street. Even back in the day a reasonable form of ID was a power bill with your name and address on it. Actually that's not true at all, at least in some states like Texas. votetexas.gov posted:9. Does the address on my photo identification have to match my address on the official list of registered voters at the time of voting? Address only matters for registering, again at least here in Texas. The ID is just to prove you are who you say you are.
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Nov 22, 2014 15:42
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TGLT posted:Actually that's not true at all, at least in some states like Texas. Is that why the pollster asked me what my current home address is? I thought it was kind of weird but that makes sense.
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Nov 22, 2014 15:45
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computer parts posted:Is that why the pollster asked me what my current home address is? I thought it was kind of weird but that makes sense. Probably, yeah. And/or your pollster was in fact Freddy Kruger and you should never sleep again. The fact that there's no address requirements for the ID makes it pretty clear that they're excluding universities, even public ones, because university students tend to vote left and might not have cars. Not that the whole voter ID thing isn't just a complete loving farce to begin with, given that you have to prove you're who you say you are when you're registering in the first place.
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I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm also sure that it is a common theme among young people. I do not vote and will never vote as long as there are only two parties to vote for. Our political structure is broken. If you think you're making change by voting then I feel bad for you son.
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Comatoast posted:I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm also sure that it is a common theme among young people. I do not vote and will never vote as long as there are only two parties to vote for. Our political structure is broken. If you think you're making change by voting then I feel bad for you son. If this was really a thing you would see voting rates go down over time across the board (as the young people got older). Unless you think this is a revelation from only the past decade or so.
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Nov 22, 2014 18:38
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I think we should bring back the literacy test for voting but make it the math portion of the SAT
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Nov 22, 2014 18:53
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Comatoast posted:I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm also sure that it is a common theme among young people. I do not vote and will never vote as long as there are only two parties to vote for. Our political structure is broken. If you think you're making change by voting then I feel bad for you son. FYI there are often third-party candidates on the ballot. I propose that you show up and vote for one of them during the next election.
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thrakkorzog posted:There is actually a pretty good reason for excluding college ID. ID confirms who you are, not that you are eligible to vote. Being on the voting rolls is what confirms you're eligible to vote.
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Comatoast posted:I'm sure this will be an unpopular opinion around here, but I'm also sure that it is a common theme among young people. I do not vote and will never vote as long as there are only two parties to vote for. Our political structure is broken. If you think you're making change by voting then I feel bad for you son. If voting didn't change anything, the Republicans wouldn't be trying to make it impossible.
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