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Literally the only actual purpose amiibos serve (from a "making money for Nintendo" point of view, which is the only view that matters to the people making them) is to capitalize on the Disney Infinity/Skylanders market of interactive figurines. Nintendo looked at those games, saw the poo poo-zillions of dollars they were making, and said "we have lots of well-branded characters that we could make into figures, lets get in on that!". Every actual "function" of the amiibos is an afterthought after selling a gimmick product to children and capitalizing on a fad market. And this is coming from someone who actually bought one.
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Electromax posted:The DLC comparison only really works if Activision released a DLC key that unlocked a gun in CoD and a song in Rock Band and a new outfit in Destiny or something. It's an ugly rollout early on (Nintendo is great at those) but over time they hopefully still offer some value beyond whatever DLC you're comparing it to for Smash alone. The problem is that it literally is just DLC being sold in the form of a figure. Smash is the only game so far that actually uses the amiibos as what they're being advertised as; a figure that comes alive in a game. Every other game that "amiibos work with" literally just unlocks some content that would have been DLC otherwise and then is never used again (a weapon in Hyrule Warriors and costumes in MK8). We don't know how they're going to work with future games, but among them Animal Crossing U is the only one I can think of that could use them in some meaningful way. Having Wii Fit Trainer or Ness move into your Animal Crossing town would be awesome, but it could also just as easily unlock a piece of furniture that looks like the figure and that's it. There's no way Captain Toad or Yoshi's Wooly World are going to use amiibos as anything other than a content unlock. Nintendo is advertising, modeling, and pricing these figures to compete with Skylanders/Disney Infinity, and that is leading people to assume (incorrectly) that Nintendo games are going to feature that kind of "living figurine" gameplay, when they don't and aren't going to in the future. If Nintendo released a beat-em-up in that style and the figures were used for that, it would be one thing, but as it stands now amiibos only exist to take advantage of that temporary market, and nothing on the horizon looks like it's going to change that. Begby posted:My kids have skylanders and want more, they want that stupid inifinity poo poo after seeing the store display. I got them each an amiibo, they expressly told me they do not want more of them, thats how lame they are. Nintendo totally failed to capitalize on this stupid fad. Bingo. It sounds like your kids understand the value of that style of gameplay, and that's great, but it also sounds like you put in your research into how these things work and whether or not they are worth the investment. Most parents aren't like that unfortunately, and there is going to be a wave of angry parents on December 26th who are trying to return amiibos because they thought it would let their kid put Mario in Skylanders.
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Electromax posted:Perhaps some of that is people not wanting the figures but wanting the content, and without an alternative means to unlock it for free (though so far there's nothing worth unlocking anyway) they feel ripped off. It's exactly this. Nintendo advertised them to be more than they are. If they were just $13 figures no one would complain about them sure, but no one would buy them either. Amiibos have gotten a ton of advertisement and press from Nintendo and other sources, and now people are disappointed with the final product because they don't live up to the hype. They are shoddily constructed, significantly worse looking than advertised, and don't do much of anything in any game that isn't Smash, even though they are being advertised right along side it. Honestly people would be less mad if they were advertised as just a Smash thing, because then people would know exactly what they were getting, but Nintendo keeps pushing this idea of them "working in different games in different ways", but they don't, they just unlock stuff.
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Slur posted:Well, I only have two challenges left: Beating 9.0 without losing a life, and beating 20 rounds of Crazy Orders as Mario. Any advice, guys? Make a custom Mario with either KO healer or Lifesteal (or both) and lots of attack. Pick giant battles and horde battles in the beginning (they are fast and low risk) but after round 12 or so pick 1v1 fights and horde battles. Free for alls take too long, team battles stick you with useless teammates so you basically have to fight alone, and NEVER do giant battles without teammates, they will gently caress you up 1v1. This is the method I've been using and I can get to battle 18 or so pretty consistently. The biggest hurdle is time.
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noirstronaut posted:Does it matter where your character places if you're good with them? Wouldn't both you and your opponent have to play at the exact same level for it to matter at all? Correct. Tier lists don't matter unless it's an older game with a LOT of well documented play time from a variety of high level players (think Melee or MvC2 levels of play). Also additional reminder that the graphic posted before is a tournament result list, not a tier list. All it really does is highlight which characters are easiest to abuse/difficult to counter. Someone who's low on that list could have some powerful exploit that just hasn't been discovered yet.
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 Gamecube adapters are being restocked by Gamestop on Dec. 15th. They can be pre-ordered online at retail price I don't know if this means that Nintendo is actually sending out a second shipment or if Gamestop worked out some deal to get more from a different source, but get 'em before they sell out again. EDIT: Sold out already LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 19:01 on Dec 8, 2014 |
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Yup, sold out in less than 2 hours :/
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horchata posted:Does anyone have any megaman pointers? I either do really good as him or I get 2 stocked by the simplest people I picked him up recently and he's strange because all of his good moves are moves that aren't very good on other characters. His dash attack is mediocre, his up smash is mediocre, and his forward smash is only good at a range, it has too much ending lag up close. On the other hand: His down tilt is great for approach His down smash is great for kills His up tilt is great for kills Both his B and Side B are good for range His throws are all excellent His f-air is like Melee Marth's f-air His b-air is solid too. He's similar to Luigi, in that he only works well in certain ways, and you have to avoid using his bad moves (like down B).
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The Midniter posted:Anyone know of a method to get a Gamecube adapter right now more cheaply than spending $80 for a price gouger on Amazon? Short answer: You can't. Nintendo got blindsided by the demand for these things and there just aren't enough out there for everyone. Long Answer: Keep your eyes peeled here, Reddit, Smashboards, and a few other places. They do occasionally become available online or at retailers, but they go quick. A week or two ago Gamestop had them in stock online, but they were gone in 2 hours. If you do manage to find one at Gamestop/Best Buy/Target/Wal-Mart/etc. it'll be retail price ($20). Edit: And yeah, it's slower than Melee, but just because it's slower doesn't mean that combos aren't possible or that things can't get crazy as poo poo. LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Dec 19, 2014 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpU6zwL3hu0 Nakat V Nairo is always a good time.
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The Mechanical Hand posted:Why isn't that a thing? That feels like a total no brainer. They're going to be adding stage sharing and posting in a future update, so I guess they felt like they didn't need it for now.
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laplace posted:The problem with Sheik is that no one except Diddy has a really favorable matchup against her. Some people have decent matchups (ZSS, Link, Yoshi... well maybe not Yoshi, and Ness, basically the top tiers are dictated by who is alright against Sheik and Diddy currently) but Sheik is essentially great because she trumps more than half the cast. It was the same in Melee. Yeah, I hate fighting Lucario because, as awesome as Sheik is, she can't kill until a high percent (compared to other top characters) so you are guaranteed to have to deal with a Lucario who has a ton of aura and rage.
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Fhate posted:So, an interesting thing occurred. This is something I've noticed with other things too. The "reflected" physics for vertical projectiles isn't super consistent. For example, if you're Mega Man, and launch an up air at a Fox who reflects it, the tornado comes straight back down, like you expect it would, but if you use a reflector on Olimar's up smash, the Pikmin completes its "arc" of going up and back down as normal, but suddenly the hitbox hurts you, so you seemingly take damage and knockback from nothing.
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So for those of you not keeping up with the APEX situation, the following happened in the last hour or so: -Some moron opened an emergency exit, triggering a fire alarm and forcing everyone to evacuate. -Fire department shows up, turns off the alarm, people start to come back in. -Fire department starts looking into capacity and safety issues, calls the police. -Police department comes in, condemns both the Smash 4 and Melee rooms for safety due to a section of collapsed parking garage caused by the snow. -Smashers told to return to their hotel rooms until everything gets sorted out, new estimated start time at Noon. This on top of the fact that the hotel dropped the ball on the internet hookups for the streamers so everyone is streaming on 4G setups right now. It's a mess down there. Edit: Now the fire marshal is evaluating whether the event can even happen. LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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It's pretty bullshit if there's a safety issue and the hotel didn't even inform the APEX staff days ago. The storm happened Tuesday, if there was a safety issue they should have known about it, but I guess they let APEX spend 6 hours setting up systems anyway?
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Apex is officially cancelled for the day, the Smash 4 room is closed, Melee room is under evaluation for open tomorrow. Brawl and the other FGs are likely totally cancelled, Pools might be started in hotel rooms to make up for lost time, the APEX staff is going to pursue legal action against the hotel for authorizing the event in an unsafe building after the weekend, Right now they're trying to come up with an alternative. http://smashboards.com/threads/apex-venue-evactuation-apex-likely-canceled-for-day-brawl-possibly-cancelled.388982/ What a poo poo-show. Edit: This hotel is hosed legally. Authorizing a 2500+ person event in a structurally damaged room? Even if APEX staff didn't sue the Fire Department is gonna have plenty to say about this. Edit edit: The Splatoon room is closed now too, Fire Marshals saying the whole event may be cancelled https://twitter.com/CLASHTournament/status/561188555180232704?s=09 LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Jan 30, 2015 |
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Apparently hotel staff may be getting arrested for this: https://twitter.com/toph_bbq/status/561186940742291456
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Holy poo poo Twitch to the rescue. New Venue, Garden State Convention Center. https://twitter.com/xD1x/status/561220815635886080 Now they gotta transport 200 setups 40 miles through Jersey.
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It's a known fact that ~90% of people will consider the game that came out when they were in high school to be "the peak of the series".
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I know Zero and M2K play diddy, but they're facing each other in winners semis. Arrowlink played diddy game 1, but switched to Palutena (and still got bodied by THE PAC). I don't know of any others actually. E: Honestly the character variety has been amazing. Rosalina, Greninja, Diddy, Shiek, Pac Man, DHD, Ness, Robin, Palutena, Mac, Sonic, and Mega Man at least in top 16. E2: and now Fox too. LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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Your Computer posted:That's a good mix There's also been ZSS, Lucario, Pikachu, Falco, Luigi, Yoshi, ROB, Link, Dark Pit, Villager, Shulk, Marth, DK, and Bowser JR, that I've seen do very well in pools. Pretty much the whole cast is viable. The only characters I haven't really seen at all have been MK, DDD, Wario, Peach, Ike, and Doc.
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sharrrk posted:who was playing palutena and are they still in? i only just woke up sorry AreoLink, he got wrecked by the Japanese Pac-Man player though. He plays a lot of Palu, but mostly in 3DS tournaments with customs on. She gets 10x better with customs available. LanceKing2200 fucked around with this message at 20:33 on Feb 1, 2015 |
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And soon http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp for singles
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Stream schedules are here but they're going to be about an hour behind.
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Your Computer posted:What timezone are they in? I'm not really interested in 2v2, but they've been at it for a while so if I'm reading that schedule right surely it's time for Brawl 1v1 soon? 2v2 finals are going right now, times are EST.
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SMASH 4 TOP 8 ON NOW http://www.twitch.tv/vgbootcamp
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Ok say what you will but this is hype as hell. E: MY BODY IS READY
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134K is the current Melee viewer record at Evo 2013, the FGC record is 147K for SF4 at Evo 2014.
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Smashing Link posted:Do tournament organizers actually plan to allow custom moves in the future? Between that and ongoing patching (even if infrequent), I think it could end up a very balanced and diverse game. I would also love to see the Mii fighters be allowed in competitive play cause they look pretty cool. Short answer: We'd love to, but it's a stretch right now. Long answer: The single biggest problem is getting enough fully unlocked consoles for large, APEX scale tournaments. There is currently no way to shortcut the long process of getting 400+ RNG unlocks on a WiiU. We don't even have the "pay cash money to unlock everything" option that some other fighters have (see: BlazBlue). Right now the best option is looking to be Amazing Ampharos' Custom Moveset Project, which involves: Getting a fully unlocked 3DS version Creating the top 6 movesets for every character (as voted on by the community) with standardized naming Transferring every one of those sets to each WiiU that will be used (takes about 15 mins per WiiU, and only once) This makes it so that for 95% of people, the WiiU is set up with the set you'll use, and for the last 5% they'll have to transfer moves from their own 3DS version (it isn't too much of a stretch to assume that someone who is dead set on using a unique build owns a 3DS with that build unlocked). The upside of this is that there are cheat devices that can be used to unlock all custom moves on a 3DS version, and it only takes 1 fully unlocked 3DS to set up any number of WiiUs. The downside is that this is an additional equipment and setup time requirement, and that it doesn't actually unlock the moves on the WiiU. The fastest method would be if the WiiU also had all the moves unlocked, so players with unique movesets didn't need to connect a 3DS, but that will take either A) Time, B) Nintendo giving us a "pay $5 to unlock all custom moves" DLC, or C) Someone to crack the WiiU security and enable save sharing.
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FZeroRacer posted:No one has to act to protect their copyright. Otherwise Valve, Blizzard etc would probably be out of business right now. You're probably thinking of Trademarks. Plus Project M would arguably fall under Fair Use outside of violating the EULA you agree to whenever you boot up the Wii. It is about money though. I guarantee that they are working on some Melee/Sm4sh partnership with Nintendo, who would be donating a small fortune in consoles/games/venues/publicity. In exchange though, Nintendo can't be directly associated with anything PM related for legal reasons. If nothing else the shareholders would have a fit with Nintendo supporting a mod that could very easily be seen as "costing them money". It's honestly in PMs best interest to not pull any attention from Nintendo. Even if Nintendo upper management has no problem with PM they could easily be forced to take action against it by their lawyers for legal reasons or their shareholders for financial ones.
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Bluff Buster posted:So when's the next tournament? The current plan is to wait for Nintendo to launch the online tournament mode, but if people want one sooner we can make it happen.
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Customs tournament going on now. About to be Palu vs DK, both with 3-4 customs. http://www.twitch.tv/tourneylocator
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One of the best players in our region plays Dedede almost exclusively. Here's a bunch of videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSNyLx82vCM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CtKOcCuupA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0ozDHTAIhA Or check us out on twitch tuesday nights at http://www.twitch.tv/gameunderground The MA scene is amazing, almost no one plays Diddy. All our top players play Sheik, Dedede, Falcon, or Mario.
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ChaosArgate posted:I got so excited when you said there was a great scene in my state, but I just looked and it's like an hour away from where I live. Reiley posted:Is is mostly around Boston or is there a Western MA scene as well? I have good news for both of you! I host a Smash 4 scene in the Boston area AND Western MA! Western MA: Game Underground (in Framingham MA) in addition to being a fantastic store hosts every kind of smash under the sun. I host Smash 4 night on Tuesday nights (signups 6-7, goes till 10) . They also host Smashing Grounds Weekly on Thursday nights at the same time, which is primarily PM, but hosts all the other smashes as well. GU Twitch: http://www.twitch.tv/gameunderground Smash 4 Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/NESmash4/ PM Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1440161802907883/ Smashboards Thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/feb-17-2015-game-underground-smash-4-weeklies-tuesdays-framingham-ma.385999/ Boston Area: I live in Quincy (Right on southern artery) and I operate The Smash Den out of my house. It's super accessible from the red line, but we're on temporary hiatus (both my driveway and the MBTA are getting reamed by snow for the FIFTH WEEK IN A ROW). We held a charity tournament with 30 people out of my house a few weeks ago, which is what those videos were from, but I probably won't be holding any more event till after PAX. Join our Facebook group and I'll be posting there. Smash Den Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/SmashBrosMA/ My Twitch Channel: http://www.twitch.tv/LanceKing2200_ There's also a scene in the Lowell area (for you north shore people). I haven't been up there yet, but some people from the group are in the Facebook groups, and I hear good things. Smashboards thread: http://smashboards.com/threads/feb-12-2015-over-the-horizons-lowell-ma.384838/#post-18308789 Also, yeah, I drive from Quincy to Framingham every Tuesday during rush hour and I run the drat thing, no one has any excuse.
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Hey MA smash goons, if you want a tournament to go to in Boston we're having one Sunday! It's gonna be at the Westin hotel in Boston, and we'll be running Melee, Project M, and Smash 4 (I'll be hosting Smash 4) If you wanna come tickets are available online and you have to register for tournaments by FRIDAY NIGHT. Ticket info and event details HERE.
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