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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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SBOS Installed!

I searched but I could not find that as a soundclip anywhere

Also this
http://i.imgur.com/xvbvzVN.jpg

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Now I can think of videos I associate with the 90s

Nena Cherry - Buffalo Stance
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JWsRz3TJDEY

The Prodigy - Out of Space
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4eav7dFvc8

Utah Saints - Something good
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f7hlMR-Xn9I

EMF - Unbelievable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49jxDSYr_xg

Wtf was with Vision Street Wear in the 90s?

Happy Mondays - Step On
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00hH5hVGqns

I always associate that really clean but over saturated green screen effect with 90s music videos.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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If you've ever seen the documentary Hype, which was all about the rise and fall of Grunge, you'll remember a part where they talk about so called Grunge Speak. Basically, a NYT reporter called up Sub Pop and ask "what are all the grunge kids saying?" and the person on the phone at Sub Pop basically pulled a bunch of poo poo out of their rear end and it got published.

http://hoaxes.org/archive/permalink/grunge_speak

Gotta love that.

As for bad 90s shirts there were two that haven't been mentioned that I remember

Chip & Pepper
http://i.imgur.com/nW135m5.jpg

I took sailing courses one summer, at there was at least 4 kids in the class that wore nothing but these shirts for the 3 weeks.

There was also these, Big Dogs
http://i.imgur.com/ZMUj7nl.jpg

They were "good shirts" to a lot of kids I knew in the 90s. They seem to still make shirts, but now they're all edgy and "'Murica gently caress ya!'.

While I only just saw it, X-men Evolution was way more 90s than first X-men cartoon. If only because of Spyke
http://i.imgur.com/e4XSyiZ.jpg

Skateboarding mutant with Simon Phoenix hair! It was like they didn't need another girl, so they took Marrow and made it a black kid for Diversity's sake.

They also felt the need to redo Rogue as an angsty goth kid
http://i.imgur.com/rUI2VhR.png

They did the same with Scarlett Witch but it was less goth teen and more vamperella costume.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Ishamael posted:

That wasn't from the 90s.

You don't have to be from the 90s to be 90s as gently caress.

How about mullet Superman
http://i.imgur.com/a9JxWqy.jpg

Mullets were popular enough in the 90s they were seen in media a lot.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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And this gave us all the New Country white people could consume.


Ishamael posted:

Yeah when Superman came back in 93, most of the artists drew him like he had fairly uniformly long hair.



Then over time, for some reason, it became a mullet.

Both styles were terrible.

The word balloon is perfect. There was also the weird energy Superman too. Did DC ever know what it was doing in its monthlies?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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You Are A Elf posted:

There was even an NBC Saturday morning show for some reason:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7I-zOK5kz0

I had a Chip and Pepper flannel jacket in middle school back in the early 90s. The zipper busted on it sometime thereafter, and that was that.

There was an animated series for pretty much everything in the 90s.

Like New Kids on the Block.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zuQthVnKpD8

Rat tails, worse than mullets?

I'll probably get flak for this, because tattoo enthusiasts get really defensive, but Tribal Tattoos. Nothing says 90s douchebag tough guy like a tribal tattoo wrapped around their upper arm. Or barbed wire. Now obvious actual Samoans or other people from cultures that actually have these are fine, but white guys trying to look tough always look like a douche.

Another tattoo that screams 90s to me is the sunburst around the navel.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Gravitas Shortfall posted:

I don't think I've ever seen anyone in any of the tattoo threads defending tribal tattoos.

A friend of mine is huge into tattoos and is constantly posting meme defending even the worst tattoos, and his tattoo buddies always are quick to jump on anyone who says poo poo about anything. Even that pink Darth Vader or :911: ones.

Inksecution is real just like Fursecution!!!

To get back how about our favorite friends teach us about Windows 95!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGYcNcFhctc

Who doesn't love that retro teal background, slate grey task bar and anti-aliasing everywhere! MS also really pushed to get those ergonomic keyboards everywhere, but that split design always messed me up.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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This reminded me of the Official UK World Cup Anthem, World in Motion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re4aDJL3heA

Even when they preformed it later in their career they'd still get football players to come out and do the rap. I always found it funny Hooky is the only band member that doesn't look awkward as hell in the video.

In the 90s Bernard Sumner and Johnny Marr formed a group called Electronic. Their stuff is pretty sterotypical 90s synthpop dancy stuff. Neil Tennant joined on a few tracks, and the video for Disappointed was super 90s cliches

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBm8j4UJsSE

What was the thing with the flag guys? Like was that a thing at dance clubs in the 90s?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXWZrHke8Hw

I swear 90s videos tended to be just mish mashes of random images.

Something I had forgotten about, even Bowie got into jungle beats and such in the 90s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JoWRd6xg4Y8 seizure inducing.

twistedmentat has a new favorite as of 19:15 on Jan 25, 2015

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Halloween Jack posted:

Pop Will Eat Itself was party of a short-lived subculture in the UK called Grebo, which was basically a blend of industrial and electronica with the kind of rock/punk influences that would become grunge. So there's some stuff you see with PWEI that you don't see mixed together anywhere else, but I don't think flags were a thing.

I was talking more of muscly black guys with flags in 90s dance videos in general.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Yea i have a book I nabbed cheap that is the top 100 albums of the 90s by sales, and the top 10 looks like this

10 Baby one more Time - Britney Spears
9 Ropin' the Wind - Garth Brooks
8 Self Titled - Backstreet Boys
7 Supernatural - Santana
6 Double Live - Garth Brooks
5 No Fences - Garth Brooks
4 Cracked Rear Veiw - Hootie and the Blowfish
3 Jagged Little Pill - Alanis Morrissette
2 OST - The Bodyguard
1 Come on Over - Shania Twain

We tend to remember the good stuff, that had some kind of impact culturally rather than just poo poo that sold well. I think music nerds get too hung up on sales sometimes and ignore that no matter the decade, most of the best selling stuff is forgettable crap.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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ElwoodCuse posted:

My favorite music fact is that the best-selling indie record of all time is Smash by The Offspring

Which is awesome, and sad these days that no independent release will even make it to stores. Though its fairly easy to get your stuff on bandcamp, but then you need a whole social media presence to drive people there. Back then you could get on the radio and even mtv with a video. By the way, I am still not clear what the hell the Keep Em Separated video was trying to say.

GWBBQ posted:

This bleeds over from the 80s when the justice system in the US literally engaged in witch hunts, and holy gently caress look at that guy's haircut.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rt_T5EF-uzU


The really upsetting this is this poo poo was whole heartled accepted by a number of police forces, and people went to prison for crimes that they had no involvement in because the police were convinced of Satanic activity, and the weird kid who drew skulls on their notebook and liked Slayer became the suspect. See West Memphis Three.

Other examples were guys like Rev. Mullet would show up at a town where a murder had taken place, and offer their help in finding the Satanists that did it. They'd do wonderful things like go to the murder scene and look for "occult signs" which to guys like this, is pretty much anything that is a cross, even then they can be satanic crosses. Thing is, often the police had their own investigation which pointed to something else, but these occult investigators would rile up the local church and demand action based on their bible thumping. I remember reading about a case where a young runaway was found in a shack in the woods, and it was obvious she had died of a heroin overdose, because she was little found with a needle still stuck in her arm and all the other signs said OD. Nope, these two occult investigators showed up and because there was graffiti of pentagrams, swastikas, ankhs, gently caress and poo poo and all kinds of the stuff kids spraypaint in places where people are going to see it, clearly it was a satanic sacrifice. They pretty much bullied the local cops into treating this like an occult murder and the cops had no choice but to investigate based on this occult belief. One of the dumb things that can happen when you're chief of police in elected official.

I know this is 80s, but watch this for more glorious over reacting and amazing Christian Hair https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jrMoVWl5KA


Steven CatFingers posted:

These are back in Fall 2015 fashion. Unsurprisingly, the Urban Outfitters one (top left) is $20.



Those are still crazy hot.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I unironically love 90s dance music. It was more about making a beat that was dancable and catchy, and not loving drops and weird bass effects (weird bass effects are only acceptable if you're Aphex Twin)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfWb_60lhw0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pav2f4b-1ZE
I was thinking about this one, the song could just have the vocalist singing and it was fine, but then the guy comes and talk raps his way through most of it. I know during production he was all "I know what will make this song perfect, if I rap the verses" and everyone was all "uh ya okay, you paid for the studio time"

Choco1980 posted:

Yup, according to MTV, these 3 songs would all count as the same type of music.

I don't see why that would be an problem, there's lots of different types of electronic music.

HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:

aaaaaaaaand gently caress me No Doubt was formed in 1986.

Fun fact, the primary song writer for No Doubt is Gwen Stefani's brother, who was an animator on the Simpsons when Tragic Kingdom became the biggest thing ever.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Celery Face posted:

I wish stuff like Mr Vain would get played in the nightclubs around here. Maybe the top 40 is just poo poo right now but most of what gets played is awkward to try to dance to.

This isn't a dance song but I've been kind of obsessed with it lately.
https://vimeo.com/98788459


I remember when that came out, and people I knew who thought being feminist was to play a sexy lady in video games were all over this song becaus "omg he's singing from a womans point of view! If I like this song i'll totally get laid". It was hilariously painful to watch.

It was impressive that the entire thing was done by himself though.

Pope Guilty posted:

Captain Jack was a disillusioned soldier in a military uniform singing about peace, love, and fuckin'. Dude was A-OK and if you've played Dance Dance Revolution you've heard at least a couple of his songs. Real shame when he died so young.

I was wondering why that song was so familiar. I was terrible at DDR but I had like every single song that ever appeared on it though. How many loving versions of Butterfly did I have? More than I had remixes of Blue Monday at least.


Aesop Poprock posted:

Ok Grandpa, guess poo poo like Sapient or Run the Jewels or Gang Gang Dance that you probably haven't even bothered to hear about/listen to are just automatically junk cause you're in your 90s and weren't aware of them

(seriously though 90s dance music is insanely loving lacking compared to 2000s on if you compare them now)

You have to listen to dumbass dubstep kids come into your store and ask you "how are the drops?" on Skrillix albums a dozen times a day, it would piss you off for ever too.

Thing is, you had to either stumble across something on Muchmusic here in Canada to find out about something new. Where I was living, there was no electronic or dance music channels. You might see something if it was popular on TV, but there was only really Electric Circus on friday nights where you could see anything that would be electronic or dance. There was no radio stations, and even the clubs when I was old enough to go still played top 40 pop songs. I only knew of the existence of a lot of stuff is I had a friend who was and still is super into industrial/goth music so I was at least aware of anything that would even be close that wasn't Nine Inch Nails or Marilyn Manson. Nothing like being asked if it was a new NIN song when you had headhunter on a mix tape.

Speaking of that, mixtapes may not be limited to the 90s, but I associate them with it, because everyone had them and we traded them around. I still have some at my parents house where you can hear the DJ talking over intos and outros. I'd lay in bed at night listening to the radio with my headphones on and hit record when a song I liked came on because the radio station would play the top 10 songs at 10pm.

Europe produced some pretty cringe worthy stuff, but so did us in Canada.
This article has some of the worst offenders http://ajournalofmusicalthings.com/the-15-worst-canadian-songs-of-the-90s/


Grraarrgghh posted:

Along similar lines, the brief psychedelic revival of '97 spawned one of the decades best videos (from one of it's best albums):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APrpB-i4d_E

I completely forgot about the huge crush I had on the girl with the tambourine in this video. Reminds me of Urge Overkill's song that wasn't on the Pulp Fiction Soundtrack but still rocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ww-f4glTOdw


Mayostard posted:

I think this would be the Canadian equivalent of the Sears commercial.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzPyu2XbV4U

I used to say "and bought a shotgun!" after the old guy says his son bought life insurance, and my dad would always get angry that me because that's not a nice thing to say. The ad was on all the time, that was the only way to make it bearable to inject some morbid humor into it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Nostalgia4Butts posted:

oh wow

here's the other singer that broke my heart in the 90s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Z_H11F7WDI

I think us and all the other guys who have the "dorky but cute girl with glasses" thing stems from her.

The Mentalizer posted:

You would have loved seeing them live then, since she had a tendency to occasionally play at least part of the gig topless.

Yep. That was in Dig. Man, I haven't seen that in ages, I should see if its streaming on something I can get.

Also did a pregnant suicide girls shoot. Never looked, not what I want to see at all.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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There's a 90s as gently caress thing, jokes about Bob Dole talking to himself in first person singular. Pair that with Lewinsky jokes and you have pretty much mid to late 90s humor.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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ToxicSlurpee posted:

Political jokes just kind of write themselves. It's true of basically every era.

Every hack had a "Bob Dole likes Bob Bole Bob Dole" joke, and I seriously still see Lewinsky jokes out there.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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It kind of reminds me how the 90s was when conspiracy culture really took off. It had always existed, in self published books, and poorly photocopied stuff crazy people who try to hand you on the street. Suddenly you have black helicopters, men in black, cattle mutilations and other stuff being talked about as if it was a serious thing. The X-files was early in tapping into this, and there were a few shows that tried to get in on it, plus movies and books.

Everyone knew what Area 51 was, and suddenly it wasn't the Government secretly spying on citizens or knocking over foreign governments, they were now hiding the existence of Aliens and flying UFOs. You think there are lots of shows about this stuff now? There was a new one every day practically spouting off some new theory, or showing off new photos and videos. The main difference between then and now is it wasn't so whiney as it is today. Its all "why won't people believe my crazy theory?" and "scientists are mean because we won't take my story at face value with no evidence" then it was "look at this crazy thing!".

Making fun of Obama and Hillary are basically "he's black!' and "she's a woman!" because right wing comedians are lazy. More serious comedians focus on the Right because there's so much more material to be found there.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I'm pretty sure the kind of people who in the 90s went off to the woods to play soldier thinking they're going to be defending Michigan from a Soviet invasion from Canada are all in the Tea Party and the ones who rushed to defend Cliven Bundy against the police.

Militia stuff was really weird. They all had their own ideas, but it was pretty common to believe that the UN was just about to declare Martial Law on the US and the UN troops hidden on US soil would go and take everyones guns away. Also, they could tell you about the hidden masonic and Jewish imagery in the symbols of the US for hours. It was also the first place I heard about the Gold Standard and how because money was no longer backed by gold, it wasn't actually valid, so anyone could print their own money. Mail order survivalist stores would receive vouchers printed up by militias and other fringe groups to pay for peoples orders.


Slugnoid posted:

At Wobbies World there's heaps to do. Bring your friends and mum too!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RenS7Kxrmg

Oh cool a Bren Gun Carrier!

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Get felt up by an 43 year old man dressed as an ill defined cartoon character made me laugh.

Growing up there were two amusement parks nearby; Atlantic Playland and Upper Clements Park, sadly only the latter has ads on youtube
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEKJ8hzIk80 Hey kids, wanna work like a 19th century craftsmen!?

Atlantic playland probably sends C&D letters to youtube to prevent them from being shown because they really made the place look like a hole.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Mu Zeta posted:

Sounds familiar? Why would anyone cover this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StlMdNcvCJo

When this came out, MuchMusic had it in heavy rotation and always made a big deal about the fact he was in jail at that time, and the first thing he did after getting out was be interviewed.

God drat that Toybox song is some lazy writing, even for bubblegum dance music of the 90s. It makes Vengaboys look like the Beatles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Zbi0XmGtMw

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Their first song had a video that featured another 90s Canadian feature, the host of terrible late night dating phone line infomercials. At least 2 people I know were in them because they'd go to a club and offer people $40 to say what they were looking for in a date.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wUzqWCUcGao

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I had to go find the ads, because they are amazingly 90s, not just the fashions and the hair, but just the concept of a long rear end infomercial for what was a sex line pretending to be a dating line. Dial a Date was a fixture of late night tv in Canada as I mentioned in the earlier post, just I have a name now.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xxv57k_dial-a-date_lifestyle

Not on youtube, just on dailymotion I found.

if you care, you can read how this made David Bronstien, the host, rich

http://www.blogto.com/city/2013/03/that_time_when_the_prince_of_love_ruled_late_night_toronto_tv/

I was surprised to find out infomercials still exist, you'd think that spending money on web ads would be better money spent.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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tacodaemon posted:

Christ Almighty it's like they couldn't afford to get the real Gilbert Gottfried as the voiceover announcer so they found some guy who sounded as close a possible

One of the commenters on the BlogTO article i posted described him perfectly "A low rent Seinfeld by way of Gilbert Gottfried"

While looking for this on youtube, I found some collections of 90s commercials, and I forgot that almost everything had a mail in offer. As I don't have kids nor watch kids shows on my own, do they still have limited time mail in offers that require proofs of purchase or a reasonable hand drawn facsimile?

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Ehud posted:

Does anyone else remember these shorts Nickelodeon played during commercial breaks?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VADgmaJ3nJQ

Didn't Pete & Pete start out as those? I never had Nickelodeon nor saw Pete & Pete but goons have been talking about it since I joined, so i feel like I have.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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God NWO stuff was as common as Tapout stuff was (still is in some places). It confused me because I'd see shirts with stuff like "Mean People Suck!" and other weird slogans and have no idea what its about.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Gomi Day posted:

so, all the kids are getting into this whole "industrial music" thing? it's the hot new sound of the early 90's hm. how can we capitalize on this with our tv show.

....

I'VE GOT NOTHING BUT TOXIC LOVE FOR YOU, BABY!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ckPPHtDUrm0

It's so weird that such a strange, off beat guy like Mike Patton became a huge cultural icon that was imitated everywhere.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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BrigadierSensible posted:

Video Games. Not even once.

90% of John Romero's income was spent in maintaining that mane of hair.

Speaking of hair, I saw a dude with a mullet (and an kaiser bill) the other day, and I though "drat, why do people keep trying to bring that thing back?" and also remembered how the mullet did get its start in the 80s, I always associate it with the 90s because it was everywhere. Movie starts would have them done in their latest roles, and they were all over tv. Pretty much every boy in family sitcoms had them, and they were artfully arranged for maximum business up front, party in the back.


That just seems like a weird attempt to target a market that wouldn't be interested in pickups. Though its nice to see a truck ad that isn't "A MAN MANLY MAN HAS A TRUCK! GET ONE human being!".

90s SNL was probably its second golden age. Everyone watched it, everyone knew the players and the characters. Sketches were generally pretty strong, and often would create an catchphrase or character that everyone would be talking about on monday. I think the cast in the early 90s just knew what people wanted and were real zeitgeists of the day. Obviously it didn't remain as strong as many of them left to pursue movie careers to varying success. Mango was no Pat.

Looking at the cast list, for some reason I thought Tina Fey was in the cast earlier than 2000. And Will Farrell was on a lot earlier than I remember.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

I'm pretty sure Tina Fey would have small roles for some time, having been a writer for years before becoming a full fledged cast member. Perhaps that's what's screwing with your memory.

That's almost certainly it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Choco1980 posted:

That sketch is amazing for so many reasons. It's pretty much note for note a take-off on a "straight" beer commercial I remember existing before that. Not to mention how insane it was to make such a pro-gay sketch in nineteen freakin ninety one! The entire joke was making beer commercials just as party-bro objectifying as the straight status quo commercials and that's it. No effeminate lisps, no man-in-dress gags, nothing. Just two frat boy types ogling dicks. Again, in 1991.

I was wondering what sketch that was because SNL archives aren't available in Canada, but yea, I figured it was that because of exactly what you said. The only thing changed between an actual beer commerical and the sketch is switching out babes for dudes.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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Friend of mine shared this

http://www.buzzfeed.com/briangalindo/90s-alt-rock-songs-you-forgot-you-loved?bffbmain&utm_term=.tpy4YJ7G9n#.icgZ3P7xKE

When did U2 become a alt rock band? By the 90s they had become the mainest of the mainstream. Though Veruca Salt still rocks.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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El Estrago Bonito posted:

Thats a pretty solid list of radio friendly rock everyone was sick of in the late 90's except it's missing Good by Better than Ezra. When they say Alt rock they're probably referring to what rock radio called "alternative" in the 90's and early 00s which was stuff that charted on the Modern Songs/Alternative charts: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alternative_Songs

I remember when people started calling things Alternative Music/Rock, music nerds would get furious because Alternative stuff to them meant really far out there stuff like Legendary Pink Dots and His Name is Alive. When this stuff became more mainstream, I think those behind programming realized that something massively popular couldn't be rightly called alternative so they started calling it modern rock.

Kind of like how when people get pissed off when someone uses Indie to describe stuff like Metric, New Pornographers or Decemberists, where indie means literal independent bands that aren't signed to major labels (fun fact, pretty much all labels are owned by sony, warner or emi), so local bands and touring bands.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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W424 posted:

"Electronica"

Triggering music nerds forever. Also, not getting the right Metal genre right.
"It's not death metal, its swedish pagan barbarian metal!!!".

That brief time when electronic music was the most popular stuff was really interesting. It was kind of a weird buffer between grunge and the rise of the boy band and single young girl pop acts (again)

What we here in the colonies called Britpop was popular and hip, but I don't think it ever really exploded as much as it did in the UK. Me totally having a Gallagher brothers haircut in high school.

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Nov 21, 2003

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Star Man posted:

After reading about ten articles on Wikipedia about nu-metal, I am now of the opinion that it was a genre that only the 90s could have spawned.

I still hate you, Jonathon Davis.

I read an article about how nu-metal was the reason many local radio stations collapsed and were bought out by Virgin radio and other giant networks, Rock stations had an embarrassment of riches in the earth to mid 90s with grunge and alternative rock, later with the brit pop which was rocky enough for them. Then nu-metal came along and was so popular so quickly that many of the stations started playing nothing but Korn, Limp Bizkit, POD and whatever crap was popular. Then the popularity dropped off massively, but the rock stations had committed to it fully, and had driven away the audience that wasn't interested in nu-metal so completely that they didn't have the listeners to survive.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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I loving hated and still hate Sublime. When What I Got broke, every loving stoner burn out rear end in a top hat over night turned into the biggest sublime fans because "we said his mom smokes pot!" and "Dude he died! He died man, that makes the music so good".

And you make fun of my all Joy Division mixtape. :jerkoff:

It wasn't just that, it was just music about partying. There wasn't anything really interesting or inventive about it. Competent musicians i'll give them that but so are a lot of mediocre bands.

To accompany the Ska revival, there was also the 90s Swing revival. Probably the first really big breakthrough was Zoot Suit Riot by the Cherry Poppin' Daddies (if there was a name for a band made up of pedophiles, I think that would be it)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IqH3uliwJY

Funny thing, somehow Zoot Suits origins of being black and latino youth's clothing is ignored, along with the ugly racism that followed actual zoot suit riots. Anyways, this was super short lived. Like it was super popular for about a year in the late 90s, and then it vanished, with its last gasp being Lou Bega. It was weird, it seemed to come out of nowhere, obviously there were swing influanced bands earlier, obviously the Stay Cats are an obvious one, and Brian Setzer came out as a big star of this era. I read an article about its rise and fall (I worked in a music store for over 10 years, I've read a lot of rolling stones, mojo's and billboards) and there were two major factors for its decline. Number one, kids would be listening to it, and their parents would be "oh I love this stuff" which is the quickest way to make something uncool (see what happens with Kiss) and also it was really expensive to lug big bands around unless you were a major star.

I think its lasting impression probably helped rekindle mid century nostolgia. I remember at the time, 70s nostalgia was fairly popular, which I always chalked up to kids who grew up in the 70s were old enough to have money and wanted to recapture their childhoods and that meant culture and marketing started aiming towards that. This is why this cd exists
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxV9tIlpN94&list=PL68B27BFA610B60EE
(listen its pretty fantastic, except for the Tripping Daisy and Collective Soul songs)
Anyways, this comes along and holy poo poo, wearing a suit and tie and a fedora can be youthful and cool! Shaving and brushing my hair make me look real slick! I guess the only thing that remains from it is the fedora, and weirdo nerds who think that wearing a badly fitting suit and second hand tie will distract people from their long greasy hair and generally unkempt appearance.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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and I'll die if
I want to
Eh it depends on the Showrunners. The 90s the showrunners saw it as a huge sandbox of writing and they could do any stories with so you have mysteries, adventures, romance, and everything. I always say the Bill Oakley/Josh Weinstein era was my far my favorite. They balanced the crazier stuff with the family stuff that rarely felt forced. And even have the self awareness to go back and say "yea, that was a mistake".

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to
Best part of Napster was finding the poorly named files.

Songfromfightclub.mpg for Where Is My Mind or Gin_And_Juice_Phish.mp3 were both really popular.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

DrBouvenstein posted:

I feel like I was the only one who had a correctly labeled copy of this.

It was The Gourds.

I don't know any of their other stuff, but I was really into cover songs when I was 18/19 (good, bad, the in-between) so I'd just search for cover on Napster, yet amazingly whatever one I found was right.


Same with this...it was Mr.Bungle.

I knew that because I have friends who are huge Mike Patton fans.

And yea, I used to have tons of covers of Depeche Mode, New Order, Joy Division and Smiths covers by everyone you can think of. Some I still have, like a cover of Ceremony by Atlantic Popes (which i later discovered is made up of mostly members of Alphaville). I at one point had nearly 300 versions of Blue Monday and 200 of Enjoy the Silence. Most were crummy, badly recorded at shows, or by bands which had no idea what they're doing.

Though one thing I encountered a few times was a song you'd download and listen to, and then when you put it on an cd, it would become a completely different song. It was weird. There's a get up kids song I had that when I burned it and listened to it, it turned into a completely different song which at the end it says "Hey you should buy cds!". It was weird. I never encountered it outside of it, but I've heard of a few other people encountering it.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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and I'll die if
I want to
Considering the Chipmunks look like dealers on the posters, I think the usage of that song is apt.

twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

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and I'll die if
I want to
While looking for something for the failed tech thread, I remember Os2 ads were kind of hilarious

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z2cYd6dxj7w
Is that Dave Mustane? This ad is just missing the Bill and Ted wannabes that were so common in 90s media. I also like how there is zero footage of the program in use, and never actually answers anyones question. I remember Os2 being able to emulate windows to play games and things people actually wanted to do with their computers but terribly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DloCrXU3koY
There was a series of these showing people in non-computer related situations talking about it.

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twistedmentat
Nov 21, 2003

Its my party
and I'll die if
I want to

om nom nom posted:

I assumed heros of might and magic (and hopefully 3)

My favorite in the series was always 2. 3 has HD remake, but not 2. I love the old school sprites. Though I think there was a limit on how many sprites you could have on screen. I remember Red Alert 2 building a poo poo ton of Aircraft carriers and when the planes left, everyone would slow down to a crawl. Still a problem with rendered stuff, but it was novel when that actually became a problem.

Oh poo poo, that reminds me, second phone lines in your home. I guess if you have a dedicated office in your home it may be wise, even with cel phones, you can end up with bad reception and such, so having a land line would be nesscary, but outside of that, I can't imagine anyone having more than one land line in the house anymore. Though with dial up you pretty much needed it if you were a regular user.

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