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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Wirth1000 posted:

If anyone was lookign for some great looking F1 cases here you go...

http://www.redbubble.com/shop/f1+iphone-cases

Red Bubble rules, I'm about to drop $200 on 1980s rally car hoodies and t shirts.

Also why the gently caress can't I get a 1980s Peugeot Rally Team jumper. Those things are so bad rear end.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Human Grand Prix posted:

Cevert is my homeboy though.

The Cervert one is less likely to get dirty.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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I'll write a bio for what it's worth, if you need extra hands.

Also, is the F1 thread just going to be F1 or are we doing GP2/GP3 as well next year?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Jon Von Anchovi posted:

Currently on the front page of Australia's (probably) most read newspaper website:

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/motorsport/lewis-hamilton-is-an-arrogant-rear end-20141125-11tyw5.html

"Hamilton disappeared up his own a*se long ago."

We got the same article in NZ with references to Lydia Ko and Richie McCaw.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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1500quidporsche posted:

Have to go with Rosberg. Came into this season expecting Hamilton to mushroom stamp him but he somehow got under his skin and kept in it until the last race.

Yea this is me, Rosberg and Ricciardo are easily the stand-outs for me. This was Hamilton's championship to lose, and Rosberg almost made it interesting.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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NtotheTC posted:

these are very similar skill sets.

Formula 1 2014 Off season: 37, Lean to take it up the bum

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Double medal races?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Ghost of Mussolini posted:

I have (due to work-related reasons) finally got on twitter, does anyone have a list of super cool and informative and nice accounts to follow so I can read about #megajet live ?

#thanks

Follow Scarbs, the Cock and the Autosport account. The GP2 account is tweeting the testing session atm. Just beware that sometimes teams have their own race updates and they can quickly overwhelm your feed if you're watching a race with Twitter going at the same time.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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PT6A posted:

I hope Rosberg and Vettel both end up at Red Bull somehow, through some twist of fate, so the entire team can finally reach Peak Whiny Bitch and promptly disappear up its own rear end in a top hat. Mercedes should trade Rosberg to Red Bull for ARE DAN, because that would be awesome.

Yes, Rosberg is more of a big girl's blouse than Hamilton. Of course.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Aqualung posted:

So Webber just pulled a Nelson Piquet Jr. in Brazil.

Video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIcFTIlj70c

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Jonny Nox posted:

Let's be honest, when they were negotiating, everyone thought that Vettel would be staying and so would get the good car.

Those are salaries, it's pretty common for newbies to get performance pay/pay per point.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Magnaflux posted:

I found this interesting read about the trials and tribulations of good lotus / Caterham.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/csylt/2014/12/01/caterham-f1-team-sold-for-just-1-60/

Some highlights include the worst threads favorite journalist, Joe'S award, the purchase of the team for a staggering $1.60 and various flavors of debts owed from $670 - $1.5 million.


Selling assets like that for $1 or a nominal amount isn't unusual. It happens in yacht racing a lot when syndicates onsell old boats to other teams.

Kind of odd how Saward was openly commenting on the future of a team that he was involved in at such a level though - I'm not sure what the rules around director's statements in the UK but that can get you into trouble in some places.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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I also liked the Korean track. It represents the high point of the FIA's denial about how a track can be fun to drive yet provide utterly poo poo racing.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Human Grand Prix posted:

Unless something changes drastically it's also pretty uncommon for sub-20 year old drivers to make it onto the grid unless they are extraordinarily talented and have the right connections.

So, Red Bull drivers then.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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A VAG entry would be kind of interesting. If the WRC entry was anything to go by, it will be 'How much do we have to spend to win our first race?' and the real budget will include years of development work before they made an official entry so they aren't subject to testing rules. It didn't really work out well for Toyota but TTE was a mess in the mid 90s and it never sorted itself out. VAG's rally programme is at its peak, not its shameful cheaty-Pete worse at the moment, so it's a pretty different situation.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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1500quidporsche posted:

So two years of Skoda F1 before we get the full VAG?

I wouldn't mind VAG but I want a SEAT entry more than anything else.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Filthy Luker posted:

http://en.espnf1.com/redbull/motorsport/story/186775.html

This is all sorts of awesome to me. Finally Newey working on America's Cup boats, but the surprise to me is that Red Bull is in on it as well.

Why is that a surprise? The Billionaire Club has done to the America's Cup exactly what Red Bull has done with the WRC - ruined it, and then tried to change the sport to fit its marketing strategy, instead of marketing the sport as it is. Seems like a perfect match really.

One thing is for sure, with that kind of commercial sway, Team New Zealand won't be winning it again. Ever.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Cojawfee posted:

Wasn't America's cup ruined because the winner picks the next year's boats and the winner keeps picking expensive and dangerous boats?

If you win the Cup and you can find someone who says they will challenge and will agree to it, then you can have whatever loving rules you like next time.

The real issue was the court cases about who was and who wasn't a legitimate Challenger of Record (a team that represents the challengers who negotiates the rules for the regatta) and then the Deed of Gift challenges (where the Challenger or event rules are held to be complete poo poo and one team the Defender out) which dragged the whole thing out even more. You ended up with ridiculous bullshit like a trimaran vs. a cat and only two syndicates in it. I don't even think they bothered showing that on TV down here.

When we finally got an actual regatta, the new cats were so expensive and unpredictable that they killed someone, the defender crashed their own boat and there were only three teams challenging, one of which was from the team who died and they never really recovered. The defenders also didn't provide half the poo poo for the challengers they said they would and they had to build a lot of their own infrastructure. There's all sorts of rumours about Oracle's boat having some wacky self-leveling technology that wasn't strictly legal but TNZ couldn't challenge it because they didn't understand how it worked until it was too late to do anything. Either way, they were beaten in some 'Miracle on Water' style comeback (once Oracle bought in a Brit) but the defenders got more in-house racing with their two boats each other than the challengers did during the actual regatta, much like if Ferrari got unlimited in-season testing and everyone else got nothing.

The new Cup is off to a flying start. The Challenger of Record who had never contested the Am. Cup folded after the challenge rules were laid out (funny that) and the event is happening in a country that isn't actually defending the Cup (but happens to be a tax haven). Meanwhile the huge cats that ran last time have been scaled down from 72ft to 60ft but the rules and venue took so long to be announced that it's almost certain that Oracle has a huge development lead because no one else knew the regulations and they did. And the big expensive boats they shelled out hundreds of millions to develop for the last America's Cup - you know, the hugely bad-rear end cats that literally flew across the water - are rusting and in pieces at docksides and will never run again in anger. I'll take a photo of Aotearoa this evening when I go out so you can get the idea of what $200m of America's Cup yacht looks like.

To make this post F1-relevant, imagine Red Bull and STR getting to set the rules for the entire grid, season, race length, race format and then everyone trying not to roll their eyes when it becomes a corrupted shitfest that the fans end up resenting. Ultimately the fans finds themselves pining for some golden 1990s era and the sport turns into RED BULL SAILING EXTREME VETTEL FEST like countless numbers of others series that exist yet no one gives a poo poo about.

E: Oh yea, and at the next America's Cup, Oracle will be allowed to build two boats to choose from but Team New Zealand and all the other challengers are only allowed one boat for the whole event. How's that for a 'gently caress you for almost beating us last time'?

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Varkk posted:

Didn't those rumours start on Whale Oil, which is hardly a credible source. He just posts what he is paid to and whatever poo poo his disease addled brain makes up for filler content between the paid shilling pieces.
Grant Dalton himself said they wouldn't challenge it because there was no evidence at all of it besides the whole boat passed scrutineering anyway so it was deemed legal.

I hope TeamNZ does what happened last time when Oracle and Alinghi had their own race just between them and they went with Luis Vuitton to create their own high-end match racing Regatta and leave the AC to the billionaires to play with in their own private clubs.

From what I've heard (not from anyone who has read the official TNZ report, mind you) there was 'something' but we're unlikely to ever find out because it's something that TNZ may want to reverse engineer to use on the next challenge. So it could be six of one, half a dozen of the other.

I always find the 'start our own high-end regatta' calls to be kind of confusing. There are heaps of top-end sailing competitions that no one gives a poo poo about, the only reason the America's Cup matters is...well, the trophy. Kind of like the A1GP vs. F1 thing. Without the F1 teams, any other series is just another series. If that actually worked then there would have been an F1 breakaway long ago.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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"The grid ends here".

Come on, admit it, that ruled.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Doesn't Cosworth have a hyrid F1 spec V6 ready to go but no one wants it?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Tsaedje posted:

Yeah but BAR were cool and good. BMW-Sauber-Ferrari is probably the best one tbqh.

BAR were loving rubbish, they cheated and they prolonged lovely Villenueve's lovely career. Their only redeeming point was their year one liveries.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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According to the Autosport Forums, there is BIG F1 NEWS afoot.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Pablo Bluth posted:

Alex Yoong was the new Ayrton Senna compared to Yuji Ide. After four races, the FIA had a word in the ear of Super Aguri and said "You should probably drop him before we officially withdraw his superlicence." So they did, then the FIA took away his superlicence anyway.

Yuji Ide MWDC 2009

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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NtotheTC posted:

I'm OK with any driver announcement tomorrow I think. Either Button gets in and seeing him up against Alonso will be a nice gauge of respective talents, or Magnussen/that dumb reserve driver will get in and I get to despise McLaren and laugh at their "future hope" driver getting destroyed.

Van Doorne? He largely dominated the later half of the GP2 season, more convincingly than Hamilton's year tbh. He just drove into the distance, even made Palmer look average. The dude is just on another level and could give Alonso a decent run for his money as a rookie.

Magnussen hasn't set the world on fire, been a little disappointing but the dude is a rookie so there is that. I would love to see Button get the seat and Magnussen/Van Doorne facing off in GP2 to decide who ultimately replaces Button.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Ilanin posted:

You're also banned if you've completed a full season of F1, so Magnussen is definitely out. It's difficult to figure out what he might get a drive in if McLaren don't sign him at this point, unless maybe whoever's holding a WEC slot open for Button would take him.

Ah, I didn't realise it was that strict. I guess the having drivers young enough to return to a lower Formula is a new thing and will be largely addressed when the minimum age for a super license is 18.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Ilanin posted:

I think Vandoorne's probably pretty good, mostly based on his performance last year as a rookie in FR3.5, but it's very hard to tell how he's developed based on this year's GP2 because the field kind of sucks.

Yea it's not great. I like Evans, he's consistent but by no means the quickest and got hosed over by some stupid tyre choices this year, but when they were both on equal terms, Van Doorne still drove better races.

While we're on GP2, what's the deal with Buxton no longer commentating? Did someone get fed up with him constantly berating GP3 for being poo poo and how they should use the old GP2 cars instead?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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be nice wicka posted:

holy poo poo marciello is only 19. a non poo poo italian in the near future?????

there's one small problem with that sentence.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Alain Post posted:

I reckon Ryan Hunter-Reay has WDC-level talent.

I could see that. Dixon/TK are too old for much else now :(

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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I'm unsure how the technical partnerships will work at McLaren next year. Alonso likes oversteer but it ruins the tyres. Button likes a neutral balance but McLaren have only ever given him understeer, or so he complains. I don't know how much data they'll share anyway, but even if they did it wouldn't really help them out much.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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AgentJotun posted:

I wouldn't say Alonso (or anyone really) 'likes' understeer, but he won two championships in a car famous for it.

There was an F1 racing article that talked about him pestering his lower formula engineers for an understeering setup and when they finally gave it to him he just started winning races and didn't stop.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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I don't remember Yoong being as bad as Ide. Yoong's cars were rubbish, the Super Aguris weren't anywhere near the same 'back row brigade' status.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Things Vettel has more of than me: World Championships, wives, kids
Things I have more of than Vettel: Hair

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Dubs posted:

F1 talent

I'm OK with everything he has more than me, no money is going to rescue him from that receding hairline.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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simplefish posted:

Awarded to the sportsperson "whose actions have most captured the public's imagination"

Not sure that's are Lewis. Not sure it'd be Rory Boring Golfer either though so there's that.

did they give it to those cricketers who were calling each other cunts in the media

because that was p, funny

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Jesus. Now I'm going to think of Taco as Kimi whenever I watch that.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Agreed. An F1 without Bernie is a series with a 'sprint' and 'feature' race format, a 16 car grid, Red Bull marketed and regulated Xtreme-fest which happens entirely within a temporary track inside a football stadium.

I hope the fucker is immortal.

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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was there ever anything to the story that the Marussia ERS meant you couldn't stop it effectively?

Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Cojawfee posted:

Those are about important things or tell a story. This is just some guy rambling about Formula 1. All you ever need to know about Formula 1 gets repeated endlessly throughout the race broadcast.

We never used to get FP sessions and you miss a tonne of poo poo by not seeing those.

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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

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Aqualung posted:

What if they make a new hospital so close to the circuit that drivers can just crash into the hospital?

They would have to crash slightly under it as well.

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