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wateroverfire posted:Beyond that the educational reforms Chile needs are nothing like the ones being mooted, which are focused on elminiating PROFIT in public education (not joking, this isn't hyperbole). You make it sound like this is some insane goal when most other countries do this. Just because Pinochet hosed your education system to hell and back doesn't mean it has to stay that way. Also the idea that left-wing governments in particular are corrupt or incompetent is precious. Uribe, Menem, Collor, and Calderón all beg to disagree. Badger of Basra fucked around with this message at 18:58 on Nov 26, 2014 |
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Berke Negri posted:Is this the new Chile thread or can we talk about all issues re: Latin America? Because there seems to be a lot of dead people in Mexico and US levels of care appear to be around the level of however Turkey thinks of Kurds. I'd like this to be a general Latin America thread, I've always wanted one  José Mujica called Mexico a failed state and had to apologize, even though he's totally right.
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Nov 26, 2014 20:58
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So essentially you're saying workers are treated too well, and they should just shut up and take what they're given so that your Yanqui overlords will invest more?
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Nov 26, 2014 21:02
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wateroverfire posted:I couldn't speak to Australia. Maybe things there aren't administered by gomers. Probably they do not in fact work the same way, though. Maybe you would have had a decent administration if Pinochet hadn't overthrown Allende. Who knows!
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Nov 26, 2014 21:45
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hoiyes posted:Well actually... This is a good post. Depending on the country it's a mix of various levels of racism and classism. In Brazil, Peru, or Bolivia the level of racism is probably higher. The people always lamenting how dumb everyone is are white as hell.
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Nov 26, 2014 21:59
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wateroverfire posted:Maybe. Probably we'd be a failed state limping by on international aid. Chile didn't have the massive human and physical capital reserves to plunder that Argentina did when it decided to run itself into the ground. You mean when it was run into the ground by a junta?
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Nov 26, 2014 22:04
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:Every day OP wakes up and is disappointed that the newspaper doesn't run a headline like: Latin American media is so hosed. This tumblr got started during the Brazilian election, making fun of Veja for their ridiculous headlines (one of which they moved up to the day before the election and then were banned from publishing because it was electoral manipulation): http://desesperodaveja.tumblr.com/  LULA AND DILMA ALWAYS KNEW IT WASN'T LUPUS
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Nov 26, 2014 23:05
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Typo posted:According to D&D the solution to economic and political problem in every country is to just go more leftwards Wow do we have two Pinochetistas in one thread?
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Nov 27, 2014 00:15
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Typo posted:This is seriously like the left-wing version of a tea party rally. That's not really an answer to the question, weon.
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Nov 27, 2014 00:18
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Typo posted:It is when the name "Pinochet" gets used as an excuse not to have to talk actual economic reforms and zombie When people still trumpet him as the man who saved Chile, and their current president was tortured by his dictatorship, and her father was assassinated for opposing the coup, you can see why people might want to. You can't discuss modern day Chile without discussing Pinochet because his legacy is still tainting the country.
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Nov 27, 2014 00:31
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I guess if this is a general Latin America thread, a little post about Uruguay's elections can't hurt. Forums poster SickBoy did a good write up of the last one (and Uruguayan history) in LF, but I can't find it. The current president is José Mujica, of the left-wing/center-left Frente Amplio (Broad Front). He's probably best known for legalizing pot, looking like your cool grandpa, and driving his old VW Beetle instead of the official state car. He's a former guerrilla, but (like Dilma in Brazil) has been more moderate in power.  He is unable to run again because of term limits (one term at a time, though he could theoretically run again in the election after this). The first round of the election was held on October 26. Tabaré Vázquez, Mujica's immediate predecessor as President and also of the FA, won the first round. It was expected to be close, but he outperformed the polls at got 49.5% of the vote. Most polls now say he's going to beat his opponent, Luis Alberto Lacalle Pou of the center-right Partido Nacional (National Party, also called the Blancos or the Whites), by around 14 points in the second round on Sunday.  Tabaré Vázquez  Luis Alberto Lacalle Pou
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Nov 27, 2014 01:01
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icantfindaname posted:I'm saying that having labor laws so strict they are unenforceable and drive most economic activity underground is a bad thing The labor laws could be as light as the US and there would still be tons of informal labor because the problem has existed forever and until recently not many people have been interested in fixing it.
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Nov 27, 2014 05:07
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McDowell posted:Sectarian/Xenophobic culture issues are a barrier. So all government business will be done via iPhone? What?
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Nov 27, 2014 22:56
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Honestly it seems like Peña Nieto is hosed for the rest of his term, especially if stuff like this keeps happening. No matter how many sloppy blowjobs he gets from The Economist for "reform," he is on track to be almost as unpopular as Calderón, which I didn't even think was possible.
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Nov 29, 2014 03:23
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I just did some googling and it seems the lowest Calderón's approval rating ever got was 46%, which is completely insane.
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Nov 29, 2014 04:16
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Gough Suppressant posted:Could some people from the countries in the region post what are considered the more reputable online news sources? Having never lived in latin america it can sometimes be hard to tell what the equivalent of Fox or the like is without context. La Jornada is pretty good for Mexico (http://www.jornada.unam.mx/ultimas). For Brazil I usually use CartaCapital (http://www.cartacapital.com.br/) or Revista Fórum (http://revistaforum.com.br/). Brazil and Argentina are pretty bad when it comes to getting any sort of impartial media.
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Tabaré Vásquez won his election. Uruguay will have 5 more years of the Frente Amplio, and will probably stick to its pot legalization plan.
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Brazilian Deputy and all around awful person Jair Bolsonaro is out with another hit: "I wouldn't rape you, because you don't deserve it." http://www.revistaforum.com.br/blog/2014/12/nao-estupro-voce-porque-nao-merece-diz-bolsonaro-maria-rosario/ In related(?) news, it looks like the corruption scandal at Petrobras continues to grow, but hasn't been linked to Rousseff yet - who knows if it ever will. The SEC is also opening an investigation in the US. I've read some reporters saying they don't think her and the PT would be making such strong denials about involvement if they had been involved, so who knows. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/12/09/us-brazil-petrobras-idUSKBN0JN1GZ20141209
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Brazil's Truth Commission published their report on the 1964-1985 military dictatorship this week. Among the Southern Cone dictatorship I guess you could call it the least bad (Videla makes that easy), but the report documented at least 300 cases of murder or disappearance. President Rousseff, tortured by that dictatorship in the 70s, broke down during her speech receiving the report. The Commission recommended repeal of the dictatorship's self-amnesty law and prosecutions of those responsible for human rights abuses, but that's probably not going to happen.The Guardian posted:“Under the military dictatorship, repression and the elimination of political opposition was because of the policy of the state, conceived and implemented based on decisions by the president of the republic and military ministers,” the commission concludes.
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SexyBlindfold posted:If the Chilean experience is anything to go by, waiting for a generational change in the judiciary is a better bet than waiting until the political climate allows for a change to the law or its derogation. The only reason we saw any kind of justice whatsoever is because eventually judges came to adopt the convoluted ways to circumvent the Amnesty Law (and statutes of limitations) presented by human rights attorneys. The idea of a "permanent kidnapping" (since there's no body, and therefore no certainty of murder, and therefore no statute of limitations applies) is obviously bullshit, but less bullshit than a tyranny forcing upon a democracy the impunity of its enforcers, so I ain't complaining. That being said, justice in Chile still has a long way to go in that regard, and by now I've pretty much given up hope of things getting any better before the remaining torturers die off. I think you're right, but if the generation hasn't changed enough in thirty years I'm doubtful it will any time soon. Especially when you have people like Bolsonaro in Congress calling for a new coup because of the DITADURA COMUNISTA #FORAPT
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Chewbaccanator posted:So apparently the whole Ríos Montt retrail in Guatemala has been temporarily suspended because the judge that was assigned to the case was deemed not to be impartial. He'll die before the trial finishes. The whole thing is a farce and if I was Yasmin Barrios I would be kicking up a shitstorm about this.
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Jan 9, 2015 21:44
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Cristina is pretty crazy but I don't know if she'd have a dude murdered.
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Jan 19, 2015 09:08
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Sheng-ji Yang posted:I don't see what Iranians have to do with Argentina? Nisman had been saying that Cristina personally directed her Foreign Minister to whitewash any possible Iranian involvement in the bombing of a Jewish community center in 1994. He was supposed to present that info to opposition members of Congress tomorrow, and from what I've read so far they found whatever he was going to show them tomorrow on his desk so if someone actually did murder him, fat lot of good it did them.
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Azran posted:I don't see the point of killing yourself in a position like the one he was in. I do think it could be possible he was forced to commit suicide, maybe some relatives of his were threatened if he didn't. The investigating prosecutor said she's not ruling that out yet. Apparently he had asked to borrow the pistol from someone in his office that he shot himself with, weird.
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Jan 20, 2015 04:21
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hoiyes posted:Any Brazgoons up for some wild speculation on the water crisis in São Paulo. As far as I can tell from the press, opinions seem to range from "It looks pretty bad now, but God is Brazilian and he'll send the rains. by the way have you heard about Petrobras?" to "Expect Mad Max-esque, post-apocalyptic scenes, as the Southern Hemisphere's largest city turns into a dustbowl and regular citizens who can't flee find themselves trapped in the middle of an urban war between heavily armed gangs and veritable armies of private security over the few remaining water sources." How's this different from normal? 
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Azran posted:We still haven't legalized abortion. He said civilized countries 
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Feb 2, 2015 08:14
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Brazil has elected a big time conservative as speaker of the Chamber of Deputies. He hates gays, "aboritionists", and potsmokers. He also thinks Brazil should criminalize "heterophobia."
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Feb 2, 2015 18:14
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Markovnikov posted:Eh, depends on who you ask. The Kirchner's did some good things (pulled the country out of the ashes of the economic crisis) and some bad things (ton of shady poo poo). Still better than Menem. Still better than most of the possible candidates in the upcoming elections. Seriously, Macri is going to win and the roaring 90's will be back in full force. I thought Scioli was a shoo-in?
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Ghost of Mussolini posted:vamos carajo vamos calajo
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paltido justiciarista
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Markovnikov posted:Every time I see anything about Carrio she just seems deranged. Is she peddling some coup fears now or something? She desperately wants to be relevant.
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The Lava Jato list is out! http://www.cartacapital.com.br/blog...campaign=buffer 2 PSDB (including Neves), 1 PTD (Fernando Collor, lol), 6 or 7 PT, 6 or 7 PMBD (surprisingly low) and like 30 PP.
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Mar 7, 2015 01:20
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joepinetree posted:I am pretty sure Neves' name will go unnoticed. The guy is made of Teflon, even though he is just about the dirtiest politician in Brazil. He pretty much created the whole mensalao thing (for both PT and PSDB: the money was laundered through one of his allies who was head of the Furnas hydroelectric company), and no one said a thing about that. He has dirt on everybody, so he can even betray his own party and no one will say a thing. Have there been any theories to explain the number of PP people, other than "PP exists solely for corruption"?
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Mar 7, 2015 03:43
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Sephyr posted:That trigger-happy senator was the grandfather of one of our presidents. Political dynaties are very much a thing here. I still can't believe Alckmin got reelected with like 60%.
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Mar 13, 2015 01:37
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Setting the world on fire is a lot easier if you don't have any water 
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Mar 13, 2015 01:47
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It should by Yrigoyen and Perón on every bill.
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Sick_Boy posted:Uno por uno was one hell of a mess, wasn't it? I'm not that well-versed on the details, was it artificially forced or something that was, at least for a time, a viable thing? It was viable in that it brought in a bunch of foreign money, but it also made Argentine industry totally nonviable.
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hecko posted:I remember those little 1cent of Austral with the running ñandu in the back. Holy poo poo.
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Are the people participating in the protests people who were already middle/upper class before 2002, or does it include the new middle class also?
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