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Has anyone read Galeano in here? I've been reading my girlfriend's copy of Days and nights of love and war, it's a loving bombshell, I really should get on reading his work, any reccomendations? (except open veins of latin america, which is the next up on the list) an excerpt: Eduardo Galeano posted:'Freedom' in my country is the name of a jail for political prisoners, and 'democracy' forms part of the title of various regimes of terror; the word 'love' defines the relationship of a man with his automobile, and 'revolution' is understood to describe what a new detergent can do in your kitchen; "glory" is something that a smooth soap produces in it's user, "happiness" is a sensation experienced while eating hot dogs. "A peaceful country" means, in many countries of Latin America, "a well kept cemetery"
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rockopete posted:Wow. Is there any hope for, well, anything decent in Brazilian politics anytime in the next decade or so? The rot seems so thorough. This is just ye olde brazilian oligarchic poo poo working as intended by our traditional elite PMDB best represents that, it's mostly composed of agribusiness leaders and politicians from eminent local families and has the following: Vice-presidency Senate presidency Chamber of deputies presidency Most elected mayors Most governors Most deputies (in a tow-bloc with other rental parties) Most senators They have a deadlock on the brazilian power structure, are brokers for basically any position and profess no ideology whatsoever. It's been called a "physiological" party, as in it's deeply embedded in the State and it's normal functioning, but have no political talent or will to present a way forward or a clear vision for the future of Brazil, preferring to sit on their money-making machine and make sure, from behind curtains, no one else gets it doing anything that might threaten the status quo. these fuckers will be the death of us, but with the political debate centered in a PT vs PSDB narrative no one seems to care bagual fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Mar 12, 2015 |
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joepinetree posted:a good post Yeah, that's basically it, PT may be bad but the opposition is so loving worse. My mom is an university teacher, one of her students who just graduated is the daughter of a housemaid and an informal construction worker. PT is responsible for a massive increase in free grants for university students, she would probably never even attend university if it wasn't for those governmental programs. This graphic illustrates a crucial point of PT's impact  D and E income brackets declined, C income bracket soared. The rise of the "new middle class" is a major rhetoric point for PT Also, have some human development maps from the united nations development agency 1991  2000 (PT was elected in 2002)  2010   colors corresponding HDI numbers in brackets
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Mar 13, 2015 04:10
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 colonized mentality at it's best (this pic is from brasilia) My Imaginary GF posted:Care to explain this for individuals who prefer to study south american business history over south american cultural history? More like political history, first pic is from the reactionary Families' march for God and Freedom, which was used to PR advantage by the military in the 1964 coup, second pic is right now. e;f;b bagual fucked around with this message at 20:20 on Mar 15, 2015 |
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ronya posted:fast forward a few struggling center-left or centrist governments and I think you get modern Turkey, not Britain - that is, perennial accusations/invocations of a nebulous deep state that seems to continually foil left-wing plans or promise safety to the right-wing (where in practice 'it' doesn't remain a coherent entity capable of delivering either), rather than disenchantment with economic agitation and a shift to cultural identity politics. It isn't really nebulous though? It's basically the opaque and oligarchic as gently caress Judiciary establishment, which works by a weird mix of appointment and state bureaucracy with little to no oversight in theory, in reality varies by state from "literal oligarch mafia" in political fiefdoms such as Maranhão, where the Sarney family has a familial hegemony on politics, to "state nobility" in Rio de Janeiro, all due to it's astounding degree of continuity and institutional inertia through brazilian history and it's close association with the upper military establishment. From what i know Turkey's situation is similar, but I'm not informed enough to be sure. Anyway, they are entrenched, turn a blind eye to most corruption at high levels and act as political justice when convenient. It's a mostly unaccountable and very hard to change part of the brazilian state and political system. bagual fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Mar 17, 2015 |
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ronya posted:Yes, that's what "nebulous" means: opaque, de facto structure hard to characterize, hard to trace the boundaries or shape of. "Nebulous" doesn't mean "non-existent". There's a lot of dynastic privilege extraction without explicit mechanisms of inherited title. Nonetheless it's not a command hierarchy. You can't hope to arrest its leaders, if only you could identify them, in order to arrogate its apparent powers onto a revolutionary legislature. I see, i thought you meant nebulous as in ill-defined. Anyway, the foiling left-wing plans part doesn't actually need coherence or actual organizational ability, most of the time what happens is if a law passes which is not really endorsed by the judiciary establishment, it's not applied at all. Most courts just mothball it and kindly pretend it doesn't exist. Brazilian institutional culture is masterful at dissimulation and conflict avoidance. And that's taking out laws which are passed just for show, with no intention of being actually applied ever in a wink-wink nudge nudge way between the legislative assemblies and judiciary power. There''s a peculiar expression, "laws for englishmen to see", which dates back to the Empire, where the imperial congress would pass laws (mostly about slavery and such) only to appease the British embassy, quietly archiving them afterwards. So yeah, this bizarre establishment might not have the organizational basis and coherence to take decisive action any way or another, but they sure can throw a wrench in the cog of anything the other constitutional powers do and make sure any institutional transition goes at a glacial pace.
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Globo is doubling down on the manipulative side, getting close to Fox News level That's unemployment
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TheImmigrant posted:Then French-Canadians are Latin American too. Doesn't count, they are a subjugated peoples under the anglo empire of tyranny  Seriously though, portuguese is also an iberian language. Brazilians (who live away from the borders) generally feel kinda distanced from general hispanic american culture, but no one would question we're a part of latin america. This remembers me of a funny linguistic quirk in brazilian-hispanic mutual understanding, apparently it's way harder for spanish-speakers to learn portuguese than the other way around because while all spanish syllables and sounds exist within the portuguese language there are a lot of intonations and language structures specific to portuguese (and brazilian portuguese). This results in a lot of brazilian tourists who never formally learned spanish to go around latin america speaking a weird portuñol and getting by just fine, while brazilian hotels and businesses in touristic cities generally keep spanish-fluent staff.
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TheImmigrant posted:I was asking because I know a few Brazilians who bristle at being called Latin American or Hispanic. Well, I guess "hispanic" would really ruffle some feathers as most people are generally disgruntled of Brazil being portrayed as spanish-speaking. The problem is that the "Latino" stereotype is already incredibly generalizing when applied to hispanic american culture, and including brazilians just turns it absurd. That said, saying "Brazil is a Latin American country" probably won't be controversial, we're latin americans by language and history, it's just that the term doesn't imply cultural homogenity or that much similarity to hispanic-american culture as US pop culture reads into it. quote:(On a tangent, I've heard a gaucho from Porto Alegre tell me that Rioplatense voseo is due to the influence of Brazilian Portuguese.) Thats the occult influence of Free Matesonry, a secret pampa brotherhood forged around feeling miserable and cold in the winter drinking mate, sheltering it and eachother from the frickin horrible antarctic winds.
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Apr 3, 2015 23:23
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New Datafolha research came out, apparently 63% of brazilians approve impeaching the president but 12% could name who would replace her. Only 36% of respondents could name the vice-president. General political ignorance keeps the political status quo running smoothly 
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Apr 12, 2015 19:54
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*oust president over reforms* *do the loving reforms yourself* latinamericanpolitics.txt The worst part of political amnesia is that it loving works every time.
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Apr 25, 2015 22:09
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 We're all for education, but the opinions and expectations of actual teachers are too detached from the policy realities of educating people.
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Apr 29, 2015 23:09
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It's autocratic nationalism. Perón is like Getúlio Vargas and many other big paternal autocrats who emerged in the 30's, modern queens and kings who took over the state and used it as a brainwashing machine on the masses. They fit the right kind of political hole left by the 30's worldwide depression, firmly backing/backed by landowners and industrial elite, using the middle class as state tools and giving the masses a national identity and the whole range of fabricated "traditions" that come with it, as well as a hell of a show in public spectacles and (mostly fabricated) incredible political stunts. Property system keeps going, expansion in national industry and state bureaucracy jobs and everyone has a benevolent loving father in their life, who hosts public games for his children. It's creepy as all hell, but the leader cult and new state occupations were it's self-generated political legs, and the situation satisfied the conservative political nexus of religious authority, military establishment and reactionary old elite enough that most collaborated or left only muffled reproach. In other news, the prime-minister of China who is in Brazil for the week, announced the establishment of 53 billion dollars in economic deals between the two countries, the crown jewel being Ferrovia Transoceánica, a 10 billion dollar railway project linking the Brazilian interior to a port in Peru and increasing trade in pacific markets. It's nice being propped up   Not sure on how the negotiations with Peru as going, or how is the media repercussion there.
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May 19, 2015 04:08
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They've got a meeting in the House of Cunha. PMDB's President of the deputies chamber Eduardo Cunha is making GBS threads all over PT, even if the two parties are formally in the same coalition. He just approved legal corporate campaign funding. It's not really something new, but it used to happen under the wraps, I guess now companies will be even more unrestrained in calling in debts from candidates.
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May 28, 2015 19:39
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The anti-dilma song n' dance. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_R3mggJKBM I guess using the national flag in political demonstrations goes back to the military government, but never ceases to be ironic in that most of the anti-PT crowd is liberal (as in neoliberal mixed with evangelical conservatives) while PT has some nationalist roots.
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Aug 12, 2015 19:06
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Brazil is corrupt and decadent. That's why we need to put the monarchy back in power
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The monarchy was arch-conservative garbage from the get go. There were numerous regional revolts which were ended by massacring the population, before slavery was abolished there were measures like the Land Law of 1850 which were specifically designed to prevent blacks from owning land, confining ex-slaves to the urban poverty pattern that persists to this day, that is without mentioning the "Whitening of Population" program started by the very same government in the 1870s, bringing white immigrants from europe to work the fields in semi-slave regimes. Also, the court stunted industrial growth as hard as they could to maintain our trademark commodity-export economy by undermining pioneer industrialists like the baron of Mauá. Only empire in independent america hoorayyy
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Aug 18, 2015 02:52
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 "If you're black an poor you get busted before you get to the beach because you came from the hood" "If you're white and middle class you can commit crimes while the police is looking" The story of these pictures is a ongoing development in Rio, where poor kids were detained and searched without any reason at the entrance of the beach, police justify it as anti-arrastão tactics (arrastão being roving bands of thieving kids attacking the beach en masse, a common phenomenon in the "rich beaches"). Justice bans the practice, and ten days later a anti-arrastão action is organized by young beach residents, who go on and start breaking the overcrowded buses windows where the kids were presumably going home. Here's a newsclip of it, even if you can't read portuguese the pictures speak for themselves
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Sep 23, 2015 18:22
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Eduardo Cunha, Brazil's own political Frank Underwood, just got dollared in public, calling him out on his Swiss bank accounts that the Swiss foreign ministry formally confirmed in a published document.
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This mud spill is a real shame, besides the riverside absolute devastation and poisoning it's gonna ruin a great deal of a ecologically important and very beautiful stretch of coast, spreading heavy metal poisoning on people for years to come. In less sad Brazil news, this week the "pro military intervention" blowhards took a hit as one of their marches got intervened on by military police and Olavo de Carvalho (right-wing pundit and former astrologist, residing in the US) got banned from the official Brazilian Army page for insulting a general he says is aligned with them drat commies. Apparently our right wing still has enough tact as to throw these idiots under the bus.
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Nov 17, 2015 03:32
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 Across the state of São Paulo there is a wave of school occupations in protest to the state's new education budget that closes a chunk of the schools, lowers professor salaries and budgets all around.   There's even an interactive google maps thingy. The homeless workers movement and landless workers movement have pledged support to the occupiers, leading to the usual são paulo thing where everything is a PT conspiracy by drat commies, the budget adjustments are necessary state size reductions, etc. Let's see if they manage to get something out of this against an embarrassingly biased media and entrenched political interests. edit : oh yeah and apparently there's support straight from syrian kurdistan apparently 
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Polidoro posted:But that's a good thing? Electronic voting should be banned. It's no harder to fraud a paper ballot than electronic voting stations. People get this false sense of security because "oh it's a REAL piece o paper" but most election frauds in history have happened regardless of paper ballots, it's the counting phase that matters and you're not in it. There's no way around having a culture of fair elections.
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Polidoro posted:It is much harder to fraud paper ballot. I don't know how it is everywhere else, but here you'd need to have people from every party and the army on your side to alter the results. With electronic voting you need just a handful of people and there are multiple points where you can alter the results. Not to mention that electronic voting means opening the door to a third (probably foreign) party to the electoral process. Method-wise a method that uses paper and electronic method may be the safest (which Brazil uses in some sense, as the electronic urn vote lists are printed in 5 copies right after the voting finishes and kept in different locations), but that doesn't change the fact that election fraud is mostly a civic culture issue. I mean this: quote:you'd need to have people from every party and the army on your side to alter the results Election frauds used to happen here in Brazil in the early 20th century because ALL parties frauded elections and tolerated each other doing it. If an important election showed signs of being "off", our parties would most likely protest, demand investigations and even re-votings nowadays. I guess this stems from the post 90s democratizations in South America, people were really sick of rigged elections and the political winners when the dictatorships collapsed didn't really have any reason to outright rig elections, it's one of the few things that apparently changed for the better down here. Of course, you can still manipulate the gently caress out of people into voting in you, but i don't think actual election fraud is seriously considered by political parties as a valid strategy except maybe in really small interior cities. The blowback would be too much. bagual fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Dec 2, 2015 |
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 So, here is PT filing for the impeachment of Fernando Henrique Cardoso's second mandate (1998-2002). Michel Temer(PMDB), the one holding the file and looks like a happy devil, is the current Vice-president.
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People are fighting over Cunha's process in the ethics committee, this is gonna get really stupid before it's over. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0c6C-KMjgw
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Today in the early morning brazilian federal police launched operation Catilinárias, searching the houses of Eduardo Cunha and a lot of his PMDB allies. The operation's name is a reference to an event in the roman republic 63 BC where senator Catilina tried to overthrow the senate and got roasted by Cicero in a series of speeches, condemned to death he ended up killed while trying to lead a rebellion. Not sure if this will stick to Cunha personally, he must have been prepared for something like this with how leaky investigation details seem to be, but this will at least ruffle some feathers seeing that there were over 50 warrants executed today. Also this is my state's biggest paper's illustration for the ordeal 
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Future Days posted:
Brazilian regional hegemony expresses itself through animal money 
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Jan 19, 2016 05:46
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Elias_Maluco posted:Mostly not very well http://graphics.latimes.com/syria-to-brazil/ quote:They socialize with friends at the mosque after Friday prayers, but “the Islam here in Brazil is a milder Islam,” he says unhappily. The mosques host parties with balloons and cake, a practice he can’t endorse. This is so :brazil: it hurts My Imaginary GF posted:Who's currency features more former slave owners, America's or Brazil's? If you mean in current denomination I don't think animals ever owned slaves, but if you were to count every brazilian currency ever we'd probably get ahead by sheer number of different notes 
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 This year's March for Goku in Curitiba. Also Eduardo Cunha is getting his trial in the supreme court next week, but who cares about that when you gots you some DBZ
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 The protest's VIP area. A good analogy I think, a tiny minority focussing righteous popular anger towards everything wrong in this goddamn country (which is a whole drat lot) in a moral panic against corruption while standing above the crowd. What I think people are failing to notice is that the wider political objective is to rattle PT so loving much they get landslided in this years municipal elections (that nobody remembers because politics is such a loving circus right now), a goal I have no doubts has already been achieved, after which point PT's power base will only tend to decline. The unknown part is whether the "traditional" right will get imploded as well, leaving political ground very wide open for the populist new right which seems to be surging worldwide like FN in France, Trump in the US, represented here by Bolsonaro (Ironically the first i heard of the gospel of bolsomito was in 55chan and here we are on SA discussing this). To those protesting, really i guess if there's truth in your heart and you're really convinced of the righteousness of where this road leads, there's nothing I could say that would change your minds, I just really hope you keep protesting when supposedly it's time for everybody else to be arrested as so many people claim they will. For the record, PT really had this coming since the Lula's pact with PMDB and I will laugh when this dysfunctional political house burns down, but was hoping we could get past the "eliminate the communists, for god family and property" poo poo and just do it by vote like more stable, sane democracies.
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nerdz posted:so what you're saying is latin americans can't have nice things basically, yeah i just hope our lizard communist overlords keep the buses running on time 
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poo poo hit the fan way loving faster and harder than i thought there is also the PT counter-protest this friday brace yourselves 
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Live feed of the pro-government protests in São Paulo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAZoS-J2KS4 just got home from the protest in my town, not as many counter-protesters as i had feared and the police was actually helpful managing traffic around the march, the government might have gotten a second wind today
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There was this guy who took all his speech time to sing a pro-impeachment song. It's amazing.
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fnox posted:Ok so it seems like Dilma is no longer President, at least in the duration of the Senate investigations. Once those investigations are concluded, the Senate will vote on either restoring or removing Dilma for good. The vicepresident, Temer, is now the president. Not really, the process now goes to senate where they first vote on whether to actually open the process (needs a simple majority, 41 out of 81 senate votes), in which case she is suspended for up to 6 months while the senate deliberates on the conviction, which in turn needs 2/3 of the senate votes to pass.
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Here is the journalist's response to the comment, in portuguese and in englishDavid Miranda, at the Intercept posted:It is true that internet is threatening Globo’s dominance. Social media has allowed Brazilians to share information outside of Globo’s empire, and Brazilians can now read articles in foreign papers (such as The Guardian) that provide information far beyond the narrow range opinion permitted by Globo, Abril/Veja and Estadão. Meanwhile, the current media battle is over The New York Times thinks the impeachment is a coup or not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0g_rkameTwc
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 People are already speculating this is Cunha getting back at Temer for being kicked out of office, nobody is too sure though because this was just so loving sudden and unannounced.
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