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Is this the new Chile thread or can we talk about all issues re: Latin America? Because there seems to be a lot of dead people in Mexico and US levels of care appear to be around the level of however Turkey thinks of Kurds.
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Badger of Basra posted:I'd like this to be a general Latin America thread, I've always wanted one I like that his back track was "no, no, what I meant to say were all failed states, guys". More mass kidnappings reported by French media in the state of Guerrero: http://m.france24.com/en/20141126-video-new-kidnapping-case-cocula-mexico-france24-exclusive-missing-students/ quote:
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Nov 26, 2014 21:15
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The Warszawa posted:At the risk of being glib: Midwestern American Spanish, of course. Because even in our Pan-American utopia Iowa is important.
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Nov 26, 2014 23:02
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Glenn Zimmerman posted:So, uh, any reasons the military response to this isn't working? Too limited? Government is dumb? Counterinsurgencies don't work? Depends who the military is fighting for the benefit of at any given moment  Nieto's strategy to "cool off" the narco wars appears to just be ceding large chunks of the country to de facto rule by cartels, which at this point are largely indistinguishable from many local governments. That's why you look at Iguala, the site of those student kidnappings, and the cartels and local government operated side by side.
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Nov 26, 2014 23:28
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Ardennes posted:Probably because militaries make for poor police forces, and if society destabilizes to that extent, the military can pretty much keep the streets clear. Granted corruption and incompetence, including in the military and federal forces, is also a big issue in Mexico obviously. It is a case of effectively what are now warlords with secure revenue stream dividing up a country with weak state institutions and little leadership. America's implicit agreement with the Mexican government has seemed to me that as long as trade keeps flowing and the cartels know to keep their heads down on the other side of the border America will largely look the other way and let Mexico sort it out (or not) however they deem fit. Sure, there's the Merida Plan but that's just another excuse to sell guns. Or the DEA can come in and take someone down when it is politically beneficial. But then there's not really much that can be done until people are willing to sit down and really tackle the issue of violence and its connection to American demand for drugs.
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Nov 26, 2014 23:55
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Perhaps what forum user Typo is alluding to is that former caudillo Augusto Pinochet, much like truth, lies somewhere in the middle.R. Mute posted:Well, Typo, I think that coups, military dictatorships, a sudden massive shift to the neoliberal-ist ideology, etc are actually probably going to have a negative effect on the quality and effectiveness of your administration so it seems kind of odd that the OP both complains about this and supports what happened. Chile's coups were kind of decent, you know, relatively speaking. So there's that, I guess.
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Nov 27, 2014 00:21
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Badger of Basra posted:Looks like that whole coup business in Honduras was a big mistake. Whoops! oh my god
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Apr 25, 2015 22:06
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Im sure the American press that came out in support of the coup for protecting the Honduran constitution will come out and denounce this.
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while everyone is waiting to see if Trump will start a war while most the US government is not being paid some people are passing the time arguing about *squints at highlight reel* is Chicago more corrupt than china
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