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England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW
Oh shut the gently caress up so what a little loving governmental strike goes on and suddenly you're crying all over the place going paranoid, bitching non-stop, and are unable to cope.

poo poo is the status quo in any nation in south america and happens on a monthly basis. Colombia has a judicial strike currently going on meaning that no criminals can be placed in prison. You're country is one of the smoothest running and most well managed nations on the continent and Bachelet has done a fine job. Just because some people are bitching and putting up a fight over some wages means jack loving poo poo.

Oh and the whole "The foreigners are taking their money and running" bullshit stinks to high heaven. Where the gently caress would they take their money to even? There's nowhere else on earth that provides the advantages Chile does to the people investing there. She raised taxes, oh dear! Guess what. Every single other country in the hemisphere has higher taxes.

And Chile is a poor nation? Chile is among if the not the single richest nation in South America with massive amounts of fertile land and a seasonal climate that exists nowhere else in South America that permits it to export millions of tons of food to every single other country on earth. The people live quite well compared to the rest of the South America. Average food intake per day is over 3000 calories while in most of south america its just under 2000.

You sound loving privileged as gently caress TBQH and incapable of understanding latin culture or latin america. Move to Europe or America I'm sure you'll have fun standing 5 meters away from everyone else at the bus stop or driving your own gas guzzler alone to the loving suburbs.

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England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

tsa posted:

Yea, and there are some interesting issues in how public unions should be treated vs. private company unions. At least in the vast majority of countries nurses and doctors can't go on strike just because, and even strikes among transportation workers is limited. It seems perfectly reasonable to have restrictions on what public unions can do when they are performing tasks vital to the infrastructure of the state.


More worker rights = automatically better seems to be the axiom around here, but that really does seem ripe for abuse. I'm really not sure why I should cheer on rights that could very well hurt the majority of people for the benefit of people who abuse the system.

Like number 3 is just nonsense in the global economy, I have no idea why people are mindlessly nodding along to that one. It's completely antiquated, like it presumes everyone is still on a factory assembly line or something. 1 and 2 have generally good ideas that probably just need to be reworked a bit.

It probably has something to do with Chile being in a privileged position in South America of having a great amount of exportable goods and a very small population with comparably low unemployment, crime, and high education standards. Of course for a American it's probably a utter shithole with few redeeming qualities which needs to be more like America. But most South Americans wish to live in a country like Chile.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW
I'd also like to point out that such a large percentage of work in South America is informal and has zero government oversight that labor laws are about as effective here as drug laws.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

icantfindaname posted:

I'm saying that having labor laws so strict they are unenforceable and drive most economic activity underground is a bad thing

The activity isn't underground it's just that the way economy work in other nations make the systems that more developed countries use to track employment and income tax completely unfeasible.

When 10% of the nation lives off selling goods out of their house or on the road and businesses open up shop and close within months you're not exactly going to get people to fill out a W4.

Once again privileged americans have zero understanding of the inner functions of american culture and economy.

Most big businesses follow these labor laws because otherwise they are liable but the fact of the matter remains that for a lot of economic activity, especially those that don't involve external investment these laws are unenforceable and not really paid attention to. And the reason why makes sense.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

on the left posted:

Chile really needs to open up immigration. There are plenty of Chinese willing to come over and build extended family-run businesses that neatly sidestep labor laws that choke the economy.

Last time I checked, immigration to Chile is essentially impossible, either due to rule of law or bureaucratic hijinks.

Chile has plenty of immigrants. They are mostly Colombians of African descent. It's caused quite a bit of racial strife in the cities where mining is common.

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