Is free speech under attack on campus or are people overreacting?

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Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Lukianoff is a public interest lawyer. He presents his public cause as especially important and urgent, because it is his.

There are situations arising on college campuses where the administration or the faculty impairs freedom of speech, by direct prohibition or by abuse of authority. FIRE offers legal resources to people in such situations. It's what they do all day. But I don't see evidence that anyone similarly spends all day creating all of these situations in a coordinated way.

Lukianoff notes that FIRE offered assistance to Ward Churchill when he was under a very coordinated attack, which Churchill did not accept. Lukianoff's take how that case developed later on is a frustratingly liberal one, either ignorant or indifferent to the way that the misconduct investigation against Churchill was politically constructed.

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Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

Ddraig posted:

Do Americans just not know what the 1st Amendment is or something? I'm a dirty limey bastard but even I know the first amendment applies to government attempts to censor free speech only.

Any random Joe can tell you repeatedly to shut the gently caress up and could follow you around with the world's greatest sound system and constantly drown out all your speech for the rest of your life and he wouldn't be violating your right to free speech.

To make a fetish of legalities and thereby protect the machinery of oppression: This is a twelfth type of liberalism.

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Gazpacho: Jun 18, 2004; by Fluffdaddy; Slippery Tilde

on the left posted:

To get back to the subject of "Is free speech under attack", it's plainly obvious that it is. The front page of The Fire's website has a consistent stream of bullshit speech codes and abridgement of freedom of speech such as a speech code at University of Central Missouri that bans hateful rhetoric or a student expelled because of Facebook posts.

If Mr. Keefe had acknowledged that calling a colleague he was working with a "stupid bitch" on Facebook was not appropriate conduct for someone heading into a career as a Registered Nurse, he might have been allowed to finish the program. Instead he decided to die on Stupid Bitch Hill because ~First Amendment~. Too bad, so sad.

Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Nov 29, 2014

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