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Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

I LIKE COOKIE posted:

I like the idea of God existing, so I believe. I haven't decided if God is the single all-powerful creator of the universe, or just a bad rear end group of aliens who surf around the universe not giving a gently caress.

The way I see it, and please tell me of this sounds dumb...

It's super rare to be the first of anything. Us being the first humans seems unlikely. There's only one first. Isn't it more probable that we're the 10th or 20th or 573853th? Things in nature tend to reproduce and create more of themselves. Humans making more humans to study or whatever makes sense from a curiosity/science prospective.

I try to put myself In God's shoes. I imagine living forever gets boring after awhile. I'd be making/planting life loving everywhere, if only for that little flicker of amusement it provided. Because why the gently caress not. As God, me and my space possie of homies could do cool poo poo like evaluate all of earth's life over time and preserve or "save" the coolest peeps to join us in our adventures in God-dom. Make heaven and hell real for some. poo poo maybe even make it so civilizations beliefs about the afterlife and death became reality.

Depending on just how powerful we were, making unique/strange laws and phenomenon on planets would be fun. kinda like giving certain people "stats" or blessings/destinies like in video games. I dunno. Being Godlike would be pretty tight.

Likely?

I just assume if God can get bored, or really be anthropomorphic in any way it's not what I would call God. But the alien claim could be legit. Honestly I think you just described Doctor Who.

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Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

VitalSigns posted:

So what I am saying is: theodicy disproves God because much like the Federation, the sheer amount of avoidable misery inflicted on the innocent babes means that whoever is in charge must lack power, or competence, or goodness, or all three.

Why does the lack of goodness disprove God? At best isn't it the case that all you can say is that goodness is not a universal trait of God? That goodness is a human trait?

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

VitalSigns posted:

Yeah I meant the tri-omni God. I admit that reasoning doesn't rule out the TOS Squire of Gothos explanation that God is a cruel child who created the universe as a lark one summer afternoon and pretty soon his parents will make him put his toys away and come to dinner.

Fair point. Thanks for the clarification.

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