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America should just follow the lead of China and declare that it and it alone has the power to appoint religious leaders, go all anti-pope on Francis's rear end.
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Cliff Racer posted:His complaints about trickle-down being unChristian or unCatholic or whatever and his promise to push for global action on climate change next year. Not being religious I don't really give a drat about the church's position on gay rights and don't view his reforms in that direction as being all that big a deal. I'm afraid I don't follow. Are you saying the Pope shouldn't be speaking out about economics and/or climate change, or is it more you're ok with the Pope speaking out about such topics but you disagree with his position, or something else?
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Jan 1, 2015 10:21
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At least China has precedent. Now, France . . .
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:America should just follow the lead of China and declare that it and it alone has the power to appoint religious leaders, go all anti-pope on Francis's rear end. Doing this sort of poo poo in CK2 owns.
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Kitfox88 posted:Doing this sort of poo poo in CK2 owns. America if hosed up, but is it ready to be CK2 levels of hosed up?
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Jan 1, 2015 11:22
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:America should just follow the lead of China and declare that it and it alone has the power to appoint religious leaders, go all anti-pope on Francis's rear end. The fight betwen Huckabee, Beck, Benny Hinn, Peter Popoff, Pat Robertson, and Haiburton to see who gets to be the next Pope will be amazing.
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Jan 1, 2015 12:04
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I'm sorry but Peter Popoff sounds like a porn name and it makes me giggle every time someone mentions him.
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ComradeCosmobot posted:He endorsed a right wing tea-party "independent" for Nevada governor(?) this year, and one of his sons got arrested for a probation violation. Another son pulled his kids from school because his daughter couldn't carry a pocket knife. You forgot the most crucial part of the movement: quote:Bundy supporters remain in the Bunkerville area. At a "Patriot Party" after the standoff, supporters were treated to music from Ron Keel, a vocalist who worked with Black Sabbath for a short while in 1984.[96]
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gradenko_2000 posted:He still hasn't done a whole lot about child abusers in the clergy, unless I'm gravely mistaken (and I hope I am, if it means action has been taken) He has, feel good.
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Jan 1, 2015 14:08
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Holy poo poo gently caress you guys. Be happy on occasion. The pope is doing good, politics is funny as hell... be happy. We lost the states and we had a lovely election, but be happy. Find something that makes you feel special and happy and real. Roll with that.
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Cliff Racer isn't happy because of the good things the pope is discussing which seems laughable for anyone other than a legitimately selfish person.
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Focusing your energy on enforcing female priests seems like a waste. Why not force all major corporations ( worth) more than say 2 million dollars) to have at least 40% female board members instead? That`s where the real power in society lies. Companies that have more than 50% female board members could be rewarded with generous tax credits. Just a tougth
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HEY GAL posted:It is unCatholic though; that's been the Church's explicit position since Rerum Novarum. Oh, I'd be interested in where Rerum Novarum talks about that, because as far as I can see its much more general in its protection of workers rights. Well, its specific, but the things its specific in (maximum working hours, child labor, safety/environmental protections for dangerous jobs) are common/required practice today. It doesn't mention anything about tax policy as much as I can tell. I don't think that the Pope should be talking about economic policy at all, honestly. That is the domain of government (and I hardly count Vatican City as a government) and the Church should gently caress off from it. That goes both ways too, I hate those assholes who deliberately tell people who to vote for in late September/early November and dare the feds to intervene. I hate the Climate Change talk because it is almost always done in a way that gives more burden on developed nations than developing ones. I want my country and its ideals to be successful more than basically anywhere else and global climate change action in the forms currently done would kill that flat out. Cliff Racer fucked around with this message at 17:12 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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GhostofJohnMuir posted:America if hosed up, but is it ready to be CK2 levels of hosed up?  All we need is incest among the rich/political families and we're there  Or someone needs to mod shoving food up an unwilling person's rear end into CK2, I guess.
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Cliff Racer posted:I want my country and its ideals to be successful more than basically anywhere else and global climate change action in the forms currently done would kill that flat out. Great ideals of your country if it pertains to loving up the environment and systemic oppression of poor people at the expense of hyper wealthy.
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posting just so I can have a reference to click the "view other posts" and find the google doc from yesterday for a new thread. Here, have some dogs to help with your hangover until the new thread is up https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltS0G7KA7XQ
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The 114th Congress will convene on Tuesday, January 6 in both chambers.
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My Imaginary GF posted:So move. Ah, that old chestnut about the mobility of labor. How is a laborer supposed to relocate where there are fair wages and actual laws with no money to relocate? 
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My Imaginary GF posted:I'm not a marxist, I'm a capitalist. I recognize that most social issues are an economic dog-whistle. Racial equality? More like, "Tax me to spend on black people." Economic inequality? More like, "Force me to compete against less qualified individuals." You make some outrageous claims which demand outrageous proof. I would like to see a source for church holdings in the 3rd world that sits on top of energy reserves.
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The last election of 2014 will be decided on January 8, 2015 at 10am when the Vermont legislature convenes in joint session for the election of the Governor by secret ballot.
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Post 9-11 User posted:Ah, that old chestnut about the mobility of labor. Gee golly, is there a gun to your head keeping you in one place?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Gee golly, is there a gun to your head keeping you in one place? Oh it's better than any gun.
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Jan 1, 2015 18:10
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Oh, another great thing from politics in 2014: Ted Cruz's Winston Churchill impression. https://vine.co/v/MMVTYBhqVOd
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Cliff Racer posted:I don't think that the Pope should be talking about economic policy at all, honestly. You're over 1000 years late on that one.
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My Imaginary GF posted:Gee golly, is there a gun to your head keeping you in one place? Everybody look at this silly libertarian. Look at him.
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Mr. Wiggles posted:Everybody look at this silly libertarian. Look at him. gently caress libertarians. I'm a democrat. You want opportunity and a decent minimum wage? Get your rear end to Chicago anywhichway you can.
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My Imaginary GF posted:gently caress libertarians. I'm a democrat. You want opportunity and a decent minimum wage? Get your rear end to Chicago anywhichway you can. People who are stealth libertarians look upon democracy as abstract dogma. They approve of democracy but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their stealth libertarianism by democracy. These people have their democracy, but they have their libertarianism as well--they talk democracy but practice libertarianism; they apply democracy to others but libertarianism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work.
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SedanChair posted:People who are stealth libertarians look upon democracy as abstract dogma. They approve of democracy but are not prepared to practice it or to practice it in full; they are not prepared to replace their stealth libertarianism by democracy. These people have their democracy, but they have their libertarianism as well--they talk democracy but practice libertarianism; they apply democracy to others but libertarianism to themselves. They keep both kinds of goods in stock and find a use for each. This is how the minds of certain people work. Do they vote Democratic? Are they in the machine? E: Basically, who sent 'em?
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My Imaginary GF posted:Do they vote Democratic? Are they in the machine? To see someone harming the interests of the masses and yet not feel indignant, or dissuade or stop him or reason with him, but to allow him to continue. This is an eighth type.
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The gently caress are yall even talking about
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*PUNCH* posted:The gently caress are yall even talking about It's SedanChair and MyIGF, don't get between them.
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*PUNCH* posted:The gently caress are yall even talking about Apparently I'm a "fifth columnist," whatever commie buzzword that meams
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My Imaginary GF posted:Apparently I'm a "fifth columnist," whatever commie buzzword that meams
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Jan 1, 2015 18:53
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Guess who's back helping Obama to "mend ties" with Putin...
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Nah he's just an entitlement from the north shore.
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Is it Condi Rice? Its Condi Rice, right? *looks* Oh Jesus Christ, why isn't he dead yet? Relatedly, let's start a 2015 political dead pool.
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Oracle posted:Is it Condi Rice? Its Condi Rice, right? *looks* I think one far right talking heads will kick it in 2015. Rush or atleast a high standing Rush light. None of the TV ones though, they're too good at the self preservation game.
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Oracle posted:Oh Jesus Christ, why isn't he dead yet? What is dead may never die.
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Maybe Alex Jones. Wow, that would be a fun one to correctly predict. Yeah, I'm guessing Alex Jones will be found dead of apparently his own accord.
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Cheekio posted:Maybe Alex Jones. Wow, that would be a fun one to correctly predict. Yeah, I'm guessing Alex Jones will be found dead of apparently his own accord. Are you going to go for the big bucks by guessing how? Auto-erotic asphyxiation? Overdose? Handgun?
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