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England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW
Is this the right thread to post about the current need in america for radical groups like the black panthers to emerge once more?

I'm thinking a really good goal would be a group that specifically targets individuals who are super wealthy and politically active and just basically takes them out. I think it would be hard to have a downside with that kind of organization.

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England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

Space Whale posted:

Anti-terrorism laws, crackdowns; infiltrations of less violent leftist groups because there's an excuse to do so because scary black men have guns and kill people. Not just that, but are capable enough to kill super rich people who have hella security and guards and stuff.

Yeah no downsides at all.

(You're trolling and this is sarcasm right?)

You are acting like these things do not already occur or do not already exist.

You are completely blind to how far the war has already gone.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

Space Whale posted:

Yes and conspiracy to kill Waltons wouldn't make it that much worse?

Also I'm a LEO too.

Making things worse would mostly affect innocent citizens. It would increase resentment towards the government and bring more chaos to the already chaotic system. These are actually desirable outcomes from a perspective of the terrorists. The goal would be to push the entire nation to the edge until a violent revolution in inevitable.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

Foma posted:

Do people want to debate and discuss or is the left stuck in insular groups and who laugh, point, and get offended.

Look at the front page of D&D.

"Right Wing Media: Rachel Maddow for Republicans"
"Got a crazy forwarded political email from your family? Post them here."
"Freepers: Party on, Marxist dogs!"
"The Best (Worst) Of Conservapedia"

It isn't an attempt to engage, it is mocking/degrading. No attempt to find common ground or expand worldviews. It is a bit like bullying it makes you feel strong, but doesn't make your stronger

There is no common ground to be had anymore. The right wing in America can not be reasoned with.

England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

tsa posted:

The us vs. them of the left here is every bit as strong as the average teapartier. Actually tea partiers might be more willing to hear opposing ideas.


Perfect example right here. Complete us vs. them that would make Bush blush. Honestly there's no better support of the points made in the OP than the posters responses' here to any criticism.

It's not a us vs them mentality. It is reality. Trying to communicate and find common ground with these kinds of people is impossible. They do not react to intelligence. They react to power pure and simple.

Beyond that the vast majority of them do not want common ground with anyone. They are stuck in a us vs them mentality of their own. We can try and pretend they are not but that would be a waste of time. You can not reach these kinds of people once the brainwashing is done it sticks. The media has made sure of that.

Feel free trying to waste your time communicating and speaking the facts to people whose very nature and upbringing leads them to ignore the facts. We've tried it before. We know how it works out. See Obamacare.

There is no reasoning. There is no common ground. The only hope left is either violent extreme revolution that destroys the entire fabric of this country from every government entity and legal binding document ever written; or using the exact same tactics used by the right: media control and brainwashing of the retarded public with religious and patriotic messages; for the greater good.

Go watch Snowpiercer. The system is broken. You can not save it. It can not be worked for any greater good. It must be destroyed.

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England Sucks
Sep 19, 2014

by XyloJW

The Snark posted:

I almost took this seriously. The final line should have been a warning, thank to you whoever bought their avatar for the rest.

IT is a serious post. Snowpiercer is possibly one of the best films i've ever seen a perfect metaphor for America today.

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Yes, most people affected would be innocent. But most people who aren't involved wouldn't be affected. They'd see poo poo on tv and go "idiots, stay inside, go to work!" and go back to their dead end jobs the next day after a night of Netflix.

That's why you target Netflix and the media in general. You destroy escapism as a option so that the general public is left with nothing but reality and has to face the truth.

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