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YF-23 posted:The surprise isn't that Podemos is a thing that happened, the surprise is that it's a thing it hasn't been happening everywhere else as well. Greece has SYRIZA, sure, but even though there is a lot of left-wing dissent against austerity and right-wing economic policies it is only Greece and Spain that have had parties which effectively capitalised on that. It is really fertile ground, but no-one has really taken it up in countries like Italy, Portugal, France or the UK. It is probably mostly because of party dynamics and how that anger was channeled. Portugal does already have 2 major(ish) leftist parties beyond a traditional-center left one, but there hasn't been an opening for a comparable "new left" party at this point. France has had FN pick up those votes and the left has grow pretty weak. UKIP in Britain is comparable I guess, but less radicalized. Italy MS5 and Lega Nord are picking up the protest votes, MS5 especially seems to want to be everything to everyone while clearly there are moving in a more rightward direction as time has gone on (from bits and pieces I have read). There are a still a cipher though. My take is that are parties that are picking up those votes, they just necessarily leftist ones. I guess one other thing is that both Spain and Greece had the experience of politically charged civil wars, and that might have left the political landscape more permanently radicalized. As more traditional and centrist institutions have failed, familiar fissures have opened up.
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Orange Devil posted:What's that orange line that starts in 2012 and appears to be becoming the 4th largest party? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_%E2%80%93_Party_of_the_Citizenry "Citizens," a liberal center-left party that is against Catalan separatism.
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