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ruddiger posted:Classic atheist response. I actually thought this was about SMG, it describes him perfectly, but on learning it was about Xeno, I'm genuinely baffeled.
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Xenomrph posted:Eh, I'm unconvinced. "Who are we really talking about now?" Standard response of threatened chatbots and psychologists.
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Dec 26, 2015 18:07
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There is no conspiracy against you.
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Dec 26, 2015 18:27
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Xenomorph likes a thing you guys don't, and you're all super mad about it.
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Dec 26, 2015 18:36
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LividLiquid posted:Xenomorph likes a thing you guys don't, and you're all super mad about it. I like these movies without making excuses for them. I can enjoy them and interpret them in a myriad of ways because I am a person who enjoys exercising my brain and can recognize that these movies are also written by people with the same level of critical thinking. I don't have to justify continuity and alternate timelines and whatever other dumb poo poo guys like xeno get hung up on. I don't have to break out my embarrassing fanfic and comic book collection to make sense of a movie that has enough content to stand on its own.
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Dec 26, 2015 21:11
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ruddiger posted:I like these movies without making excuses for them. I can enjoy them and interpret them in a myriad of ways because I am a person who enjoys exercising my brain and can recognize that these movies are also written by people with the same level of critical thinking. God loving forbid someone share their interpretation of a particular form of media in a thread dedicated to discussing that media on an internet forum. Doesn't Xeno know that you personally forbid behavior like that? what a loving nerd!!
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Dec 26, 2015 22:10
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ruddiger posted:I like these movies without making excuses for them. I can enjoy them and interpret them in a myriad of ways because I am a person who enjoys exercising my brain and can recognize that these movies are also written by people with the same level of critical thinking. I mean holy poo poo, project much?
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Dec 26, 2015 22:19
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Uh, yeah, this reads like venting pent-up rage using Xeno as a straw man. Don't be jealous that people can find enjoyment in these movies.
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Dec 26, 2015 22:22
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i enjoy terminator movies, some more than others.
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Dec 26, 2015 22:37
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Xenomrph posted:When have I even mentioned comic books in this thread, or fanfiction, or whatever you're rambling about? Your very first post in this thread. Like, man, that's a loving constant with your posting.
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Dec 26, 2015 22:46
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Xeno gets no small amount of poo poo from a lot of people here, and is always pretty calm and level-headed in his responses to their attacks. It really makes the attacking cunts lose their minds, which is glorious.
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Dec 26, 2015 23:05
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broken clock opsec posted:Your very first post in this thread. On page 7 of a thread that had already strayed from movie talk and was talking about the Terminator TV show. And some people responded to parts of my post, and some people didn't and that was the end of it, and the thread moved on. Yeah I talk about comics or videogames or whatever sometimes, because they can be cool and fun too. Sometimes people like talking about it, too (and we've had pages-long derails in this thread about the Terminator TV series), but it's not like I'm saying "but but but GUYSSSSSS I wanna talk about COMIC BOOOOOOKS" and trying to derail the thread or whatever the gently caress. I mention it, and if someone wants to talk about it, that's cool. If not, hey whatever. But ruddiger thinks the civil and productive thing to do is to necro-post in a month-dead thread to call me out about a post from over a year ago, I guess? When my most recent posts in this thread were agreeing with his point that Genisys has interesting things to say? Uhh, what?
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Dec 26, 2015 23:37
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ruddiger posted:I like these movies without making excuses for them. I can enjoy them and interpret them in a myriad of ways because I am a person who enjoys exercising my brain and can recognize that these movies are also written by people with the same level of critical thinking.
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Dec 27, 2015 02:30
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The older I get, the less I understand why my younger self would ever want to convince somebody that something they like is bad.
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Dec 27, 2015 04:58
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MrMojok posted:Xeno gets no small amount of poo poo from a lot of people here, and is always pretty calm and level-headed in his responses to their attacks. It really makes the attacking cunts lose their minds, which is glorious. I'm not losing my mind, I just like being creative when insulting people on the Internet. It's more clever than just calling people cunts, you should try it sometime.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:05
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ruddiger posted:I'm not losing my mind, I just like being creative when insulting people on the Internet. It's more clever than just calling people cunts, you should try it sometime. There is nothing clever about any of your posts in this thread.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:08
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ruddiger posted:I just like being creative when insulting people on the Internet. It's more clever than just calling people cunts, you should try it sometime. LividLiquid posted:The older I get, the less I understand why my younger self would ever want to convince somebody that something they like is bad. Like I appreciate seeing other people's criticisms because sometimes it introduces me to a way of thinking that I hadn't considered and lets me recognize flaws in a work I'd have otherwise missed or wasn't sure how to articulate. But if someone enjoys something that I don't, it's no skin off my nose. And now actual movie chat. I've got a Terminator Salvation question, the big "twist" in the movie is that Marcus is a robot and doesn't know it. Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves? Does the Manchurian Candidate (either one) do that? I want to say that it does but it's been forever since I watched it.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:25
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Terrorist Fistbump posted:There is nothing clever about any of your posts in this thread. Pretty clever response.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:42
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Xenomrph posted:I've got a Terminator Salvation question, the big "twist" in the movie is that Marcus is a robot and doesn't know it. Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves? Does the Manchurian Candidate (either one) do that? I want to say that it does but it's been forever since I watched it. 
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Dec 27, 2015 05:50
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Christ, the obvious one. I can't believe I forgot about that.  I think the movie Impostor kinda does, too? The Philip K Dick story definitely does.
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Dec 27, 2015 05:55
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Xenomrph posted:I've got a Terminator Salvation question, the big "twist" in the movie is that Marcus is a robot and doesn't know it. Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves? Y'oughta check out a game called Soma. It's like 70% of the way to being a movie anyhow.
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Dec 27, 2015 06:14
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Both Xeno and SMG are great posters. They're literally two of the best parts of this forum. Posters like these two seperate CD from poo poo like aintitcool or /r/movies. Jokes and fun posts are great and all, but I love reading their in-depth discussions with other posters - it's a real highlight for me. I just don't understand why this forum wants to make itself worse. Xeno, SMG, keep space trucking. That dude who posted the dog video can go get lost. If you don't want to read about movies, stay off of movie forums.
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Dec 27, 2015 08:19
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SMG's posts are great because he stands by his statements and expounds upon them instead of shrugging his shoulders and saying "well I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree" followed by a variation of  Now let me explain to you why Lady Terminator needs to be worked into James Cameron's lore. 
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Dec 27, 2015 10:01
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Xenomrph posted:Christ, the obvious one. I can't believe I forgot about that. I just reread the book a couple of days ago and this is actually wrong. Rachel Rosen has been aware of her being an android all along, after her and Deckard gently caress she tells him she's actually been banging bounty hunters all over the planet which caused all of them except for one to stop retiring Androids, she even tells him that all of them threatened to kill her but none of them actually did. The book plays with the notion of people being androids while not being personally aware of it but in both cases this gets brought up it either turns out the person is actually a human or has secretly known he's an android all along.
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Dec 27, 2015 10:16
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ruddiger posted:SMG's posts are great because he stands by his statements and expounds upon them instead of shrugging his shoulders and saying "well I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree" followed by a variation of Not only are you infinitesimally less clever than you think you are but your complaints so far haven't had a god-damned thing to do with how Xenomrph actually posts anyway. You're coming off as senile for Christ's sake, get some help.
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Dec 27, 2015 10:49
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ruddiger posted:SMG's posts are great because he stands by his statements and expounds upon them instead of shrugging his shoulders and saying "well I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree" followed by a variation of I don't find this to be a quality.
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Dec 27, 2015 11:08
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LividLiquid posted:The older I get, the less I understand why my younger self would ever want to convince somebody that something they like is bad. Or visa versa.
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Dec 27, 2015 14:19
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ruddiger posted:I'm not losing my mind, I just like being creative when insulting people on the Internet. It's more clever than just calling people cunts, you should try it sometime. I think your just a oval office
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Dec 27, 2015 14:20
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emanresu tnuocca posted:I just reread the book a couple of days ago and this is actually wrong. Xenomrph posted:Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves?
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Dec 27, 2015 15:01
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Nah it's cool, it's been forever since I read the book and it's neat to see how the movie handles the source material differently. The nature of being human (and self-identifying as such) is a pretty big theme, I didn't remember that the book handled it so differently.
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Dec 27, 2015 15:15
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I think your just a oval office You're. e: also, 
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Dec 27, 2015 16:11
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Myrddin_Emrys posted:I think your oval office What about his oval office
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Dec 27, 2015 16:31
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Xenomrph posted:Nah it's cool, it's been forever since I read the book and it's neat to see how the movie handles the source material differently. The nature of being human (and self-identifying as such) is a pretty big theme, I didn't remember that the book handled it so differently. The movie and the book have very different plots and the book deals with the subject of empathy in a much more detailed and central manner but I think both ultimately have the same message concerning the big philosophical question at the core of the plot, Androids are 100% human, they might not be quite as emotionally developed as natural humans are but that is at best a temporary condition and at worst actually an illusory concept, the Androids consider themselves to be selfish and lacking in empathy but after Deckard kills the androids Rachel goes and kills his goat to avenge them, and the androids do ultimately care for each other and try to find safety and comfort in each other's company even while boasting about how cold, calculated and uncaring they are. Not to mention the whole unresolved discussion of whether certain 'Specials' are also inhuman by the criteria of the empathy tests due to not showing an acceptable amount of empathy and the such. The book makes it plenty clear that they have personal ambitions and dream of being free and just pursuing their own interests, the personification of empathy even tells Deckard that killing androids is wrong. It really is a fantastic novel, I should rewatch the movie as well.
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Dec 27, 2015 17:40
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Burkion posted:What about his oval office Sir, are you transphobic?
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Dec 27, 2015 19:44
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Xenomrph posted:
Total Recall?
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Dec 27, 2015 20:43
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Xenomrph posted:Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves? 
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Dec 28, 2015 00:29
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well why not posted:Both Xeno and SMG are great posters. Whoa whoa whoa whoa WHOA. Let's not get too crazy here. Xeno is my bro though. I feel like I'm sometimes chasing after his posts to be all "YES I ALSO FEEL THIS WAY" in various subforums here.
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Dec 28, 2015 00:37
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Xenomrph posted:I've got a Terminator Salvation question, the big "twist" in the movie is that Marcus is a robot and doesn't know it. Are there other movies that play with the same idea of a character being revealed to be not what they thought they were, such that they might not even be able to trust themselves? Memento is about this in so many ways.
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Dec 28, 2015 04:41
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Also the DiCaprio Trilogy of Departed, Shutter Island, and Inception.
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Burkion posted:What about his oval office It's a metaphor for the alien life cycle and how it relates to the cyclical discussion in these threads. Oh wait, I thought this was the Prometheus thread. That's senility for you. ruddiger fucked around with this message at 08:29 on Dec 28, 2015 |
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