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I would say just because animals suffer in nature doesn't give us an excuse to cause even more suffering.
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rakovsky maybe posted:I'm not sure how serious you are, but the philosophical case has been made that even though we can't do it now, eventually humans will have the genetic/biological knowledge to basically convert the entire ecosystem to into an herbivorous mode of existence. And that it would be morally wrong not to do so. I hope that plants gain sentience in the future because then that would make it morally okay to eat meat again.
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drilldo squirt posted:Plants feel pain though? Not really on the same level as animals though which is why "Plants are alive too!" similarly gets shot down pretty quick by vegetarians/vegans. That's why if plants gain sentience then their arguments go to poo poo and eating meat becomes okay again.
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I'm not okay with killing animals yet I leave out poison traps for ants, bug zappers on my porch, and don't think twice about burning yellow jacket nests, am I fundamentally betraying myself?
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I hate bugs too and have no issues with killing them but they're living things too right? I mean why is it okay for me to see a wasp crawling on the porch and stomp it without a second thought when I definitely wouldn't kill a possum or raccoon on my porch even if I had the means to? Killing animals for meat probably isn't ideal but I'm still going to eat meat because it's delicious. If lab-grown meat becomes a thing and it's also tasty then I'm all for that too and would probably eat it instead. I don't think killing animals is wrong exactly but if I can still get meat without killing an animals there's really no reason to kill one.
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Dec 7, 2014 02:01
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drilldo squirt posted:So your ok with killing animals then. Not indiscriminately but yes. Torka posted:Meh, with their incredibly simple nervous systems insects are pretty much just biological robots. They have no inner life Interesting, so vegetarians would have no problem with say, eating crickets or ants as food as is done in some countries?
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WorldsStrongestNerd posted:The problem lies in determining which animals are intelligent, and I can't think of anyway of doing that that isn't subjective. Tool use is considered to be a big sign of intelligence and crows fit the bill and are among the smartest, if not the smartest animals on the planet after humans. There's even a video of a crow using a lid to snowboard down a roof which is super adorable.
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Dec 7, 2014 07:07
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Xibanya posted:I think we can all agree - gently caress wasps. Wasps (and yellow jackets) are literally the worst living things on the planet and everyone should kill them at every possible opportunity.
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Dec 10, 2014 11:58
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Campaigners for that stuff in the US are going to have a hard time getting support when this country still has a lot of people that believe abortion is murder and will flip out at the idea of "So we're willing to give ANIMALS the same rights as people but not a human fetus?"
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