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DrSunshine posted:A further point I'd make is that we already grant certain rights of personhood on people who are incapable of bearing legal duties or submitting to societal responsibilities, such as those who have severe mental handicaps, the senile, and minors. So to me, the judges' ruling seems a tad odd if it's justified on the stated basis, since, on that basis, could we not then take that as an allowance to deny rights of personhood to the certain groups I mentioned? Also, it strikes me as a bit circular: the chimp does not have legal rights as a person because it cannot bear legal duties, and it cannot bear legal duties because it isn't a person! If we allowed apes to have "personhood" they'd all be in prison anyway. How do you make an animal understand you can't beat people up for looking at you, or murder them because you want their banana? They won't follow the laws of civilization because our laws make no sense in the natural world (I mean, why wouldn't you kill your neighbor for a banana if you wanted a banana?).
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An Angry Bug posted:I'd argue yes. They're clearly capable of self-awareness. Scientists Successfully Teach Gorilla It Will Die Someday Tulane University researchers say Quigley is now able to experience the crippling fear of impending death previously only accessible to humans. http://www.theonion.com/video/scientists-successfully-teach-gorilla-it-will-die,17165/
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DarkCrawler posted:I don't think anyone has a legal duty to intervene even in the case of humans...unless they are professionals like cops Whoa there. Cops have no duty to protect you. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
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