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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Cantorsdust posted:

as humans truly dislike, or is it suffering? And how many animals suffer? I would argue few others, if any. Personally, I would refrain from hurting anything with a demonstrable sense of self. Dolphins, gorillas, etc. Anything that passes a mirror test or shows empathy for others. But many animals, even if they experience pain, don't really suffer. I don't worry about them nearly as much.

I am certain that many animals feel pain and fear. I think that for them to suffer, though, requires a level of self-awareness that few likely posess. Suffering is more than just experiencing pain, even terrible pain. It's knowing that you're in pain, and wishing you weren't - or fearing death or future pain.

I do not think, for example, chickens or cows are capable of any of this. Apes, almost certainly. Dolphins and elephants probably. Squirrels? I seriously doubt it.

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