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radical meme posted:Serious question: are there are any philosophers or writers on natural law that advocate animal personhood? Plus, if it ain't in the bible, it's never gonna happen in any western culture. Yup.
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McDowell posted:Someone would have to buy that ape an account! How would it get a credit card? If a dog like Santos L. Halper can get a credit card, then it's clearly not evidence of personhood.
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blowfish posted:Why not? It's ~within our power~. It's certainly not in our power to take that sort of stewardship over wild animals, but if in the future if it is, we should. If we could deploy nanobots or whatever to release selective analgesics to ease animal suffering without hindering necessary survival instincts based on pain, why not?
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khwarezm posted:I think we're starting to fly off in a crazy sci-fi direction, the first one is really some absurd nonsense. How would you go about converting the whole planet to a 'Herbivorous mode of existence'? What would you do with all the predators? Why are we imposing morality upon nature in the first place? The whole point is that our moral obligation to protect wild animals from non-anthropogenic suffering is itself a sci-fi/futuristic discussion, but that doesn't obviate our obligation to minimize human-caused suffering.
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blowfish posted:
eSports Chaebol posted:The whole point is that our moral obligation to protect wild animals from non-anthropogenic suffering is itself a sci-fi/futuristic discussion, but that doesn't obviate our obligation to minimize human-caused suffering.
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ReV VAdAUL posted:Vat grown meat seems a more plausible thing to hope for? I feel like I probably should be a vegetarian but am too lazy, but if/when vat grown meat is a viable thing I'd certainly eat it and encourage others to do so as well to the exclusion of eating animals, yeah.
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