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SpaceAceJase
Nov 8, 2008

and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james
Has anyone tried to microwave a poo poo

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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

SpaceAceJase posted:

Has anyone tried to microwave a poo poo

I tried to microwave a poo poo at Noisebridge but when I came back to the kitchen I found someone had poo poo on my poo poo :( Not excellent guys!

https://bertsmith.bandcamp.com/track/what-happens-when-you-boil-a-poop-in-a-pee

3D Megadoodoo fucked around with this message at 08:34 on Apr 14, 2016

AlbieQuirky
Oct 9, 2012

Just me and my 🌊dragon🐉 hanging out
doocracy

poocracy

computer toucher
Jan 8, 2012

the poo poo joke is getting kind of old.

maybe just leave it and we'll come back once someone takes a poo poo on it.

minivanmegafun
Jul 27, 2004

doodoocracy

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
so now that theyre all using private slacks and poo poo is there much reason to keep this around

im kind of sick of hearing the ^^^^^^

BONGHITZ
Jan 1, 1970

better close it up, no more poop jokes

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

computer toucher posted:

the poo poo joke is getting kind of old.

This guy just poo poo on our joke/echo chamber :(

BattleMaster
Aug 14, 2000

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Confession: I was selfishly hoping something would happen to push this thread to the goldmine.


Since it won't, I'm closing this up.

Namaste.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

a thing happened on the mailing list

Lain Iwakura
Aug 5, 2004

The body exists only to verify one's own existence.

Taco Defender

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

a thing happened on the mailing list

quote:

Wow, that got out of hand fast. Views "from the outside" are actually very important here, precisely because emotion is clearly trumping reason (e.g. in VonGuard's posts). Whether genuine or a cheap rhetorical tactic, it isn't helping anyone towards the truth of the matter.

Aside from an uncorroborated anonymous account submitted to that site, has anyone actually accused Jacob of raping them? Forest's account seems to me a genuine description of Jacob as not exactly a boy scout, but showing healthy shame and being apologetic when confronted about transgressions. This is not the person described in some of the more harrowing accounts.

quote:

i have been the victim of false accusations (theft) by a mob of people i thought were my comrades who brought only the conclusion that i stole $ w/o any evidence or facts.
it is very damaging as one can't defend oneself against mere conclusions. i apologize if my bad experience has made me hyperobjective. i guess it still affects me.

quote:

fwiw, from the outside, this looks like a smear campaign.
perhaps an account of the facts - changing the names to protect the innocent - could be posted somewhere.
repeated statements of conclusions w/o facts are not convincing & do more to raise suspicions about an unaccountable process than they do about Appelbaum's conduct.
the allegations against jake are extremely serious accusations.
it is imperative to handle this matter responsibly for all the parties involved - including nb & tor project.

quote:

I would like to know if the "ban" on the people to enter Noisebridge is done still in a way that there has to be consensus reached? Based on the past events I understand that person who may be considered "dangerous" may/should be asked by anyone in the place to leave the place and allowed (if not extremely dangerous) to come back to defend herself/himself at the next group meeting, where based on consensus it is decided if he or she can stay or not -i'm not sure if you still have to wait at least one more meeting before the consensus can pass (because of the time needed for the announcement etc.)). Is it so or things has changed?

quote:

When you say sexual exploitative behavior, are you sure you actually mean sexual exploitation? Ditto with Cosby -- he drugged women so that he could rape them and then he raped them. Do you think it's fair to cite that as in any way comparable to "this thing he said at dinner really upset me"?

Jacob, as far as I can tell, is accused of making forward advances and humor that makes some people uncomfortable (and others quite OK with). This would make me think twice before inviting him over for dinner with polite society friends, but it's quite a different ballpark than "he's not allowed in my house".

Due process is an ideal, like equality or free speech. It means being measured and careful in one's application of power. In this case, the decision to ban was made in secret, announced anonymously and without specific justification on behalf of all of NB, then retroactively explained as "officialy [sic] coming from noisebridge members", then only then proposed for a vote next week. This is not process. It is chaos.

quote:

Let me try again: I am looking for verified accounts of Jacob's behavior and a chain of reasoning which justifies a ban from the space. I'm not defending Jacob's alleged behavior as universally culturally acceptable, just asking for some semblance of due process, because without it, you have mob justice. For example, Alison Macrina seems to have substantiated that Jacob was once rudely forward in a proposition during dinner, and then made an inappropriate joke about 9/11. For most employee-level corporate cultures, this is wholly unacceptable and HR would start building a case to fire him. At an dinner with one friend I'm thinking of, he'd get quickly put in his place with the coldest "that's not appropriate" imaginable. With another friend, he might get eye rolls and a flirtatious "someone's feeling confident!" or something similar.

I don't know which agencies would be involved in targeting dissenters / leakers today and I don't wish to hypothesize about their methods, but when people start conflating "he's rude and inappropriate and pushy" and "he's clearly a rapist, ban him!", it perks up my "what's going on here?" sense.

Once more, due process requires evidence and reasoning and time for people to review the evidence and ponder the reasoning.

quote:

Rape is bad, sexual harassment is bad, sexual misconduct is bad; let people draw their own judgements from actual facts please or keep the defamation entirely off list.

Post a link to legitimate accounts if they are too triggering for the list.

The ones I have read haven't in my eyes been worthy of a ban(all of which involved crass language and no physical contact) and genders reversed likely wouldn't even be considered offensive in the first place.

Perhaps I'm not fully informed, in which case what is to be gained from withholding the facts?

I reiterate for the fourth time, what claims and what reasoning?

I will happily eat my own words.

quote:

Thanks, Rob. Sounds like some great stories on /wiki/86, as well as some potentially horrifying ones. Again, nothing I've read about Jacob seems to obviously justify banning him from a space as some of the examples on that page do (e.g. intoxication, theft, physical assault). I'm not as worried about any messages being forged as I am about this being a decision made by emotion dominating and silencing reason.

In particular, I think it's really important to list exactly what "public claims of sexual misconduct" this ban is based on and what the chain of reasoning between them and the ban is. Based on what I read, I see reasons to warn people about getting into a sexual relationship with Jacob unless they are into enforcing / pushing boundaries also (as many powerful women are!), but not for banning him from giving talks at a space. Perhaps I missed something. Can someone please link and summarize the evidence?

RAPE IS BAD M'KAY

Capntastic
Jan 13, 2005

A dog begins eating a dusty old coil of rope but there's a nail in it.

I sincerely hope the elevator room wasn't involved

atomicthumbs
Dec 26, 2010


We're in the business of extending man's senses.
:eyepoop:

SpaceAceJase
Nov 8, 2008

and you
have proved
to be...

a real shitty poster,
and a real james
eye rolls and a flirtatious "someone's feeling confident!" or something similar

Fanged Lawn Wormy
Jan 4, 2008

SQUEAK! SQUEAK! SQUEAK!
i'm the hyper-objectivity

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
I've had 4 or 5 beers and notice how much you have a dirty loving rat like face

I apologize if you are bothered that my experience has made me hyper-objective

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

quote:

Even if all of the first-hand accounts I've read are completely true (and I
believe they are), I do not see it as obviously justifying a ban from the
space.

So again: what claims and by what reasoning?

sexual assault not obviously justifying a ban :wow:

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe
rape is decidedly unexcellent

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

I'm the many powerful women into enforcing / pushing boundaries

The Eyes Have It
Feb 10, 2008

Third Eye Sees All
...snookums
You noticed that little gem too :kiddo:

Slanderer
May 6, 2007
theyre taking about this guy, right?

https://www.wired.com/2016/06/tor-developer-jacob-appelbaum-resigns-amid-sex-abuse-claims/

Casual Encountess
Dec 14, 2005

"You can see how they go from being so sweet to tearing your face off,
just like that,
and it's amazing to have that range."


Thunderdome Exclusive

was there an actual sexual assault tho??

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Grandmaster.flv posted:

was there an actual sexual assault tho??
i think they're just talking about jacob appelbaum

Syncopated
Oct 21, 2010
a tor developer being a piece of poo poo? well i never

Triglav
Jun 2, 2007

IT IS HARAAM TO SEND SMILEY FACES THROUGH THE INTERNET

yes he spent a lot of time at noisebridge

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Grandmaster.flv posted:

was there an actual sexual assault tho??

leigh honeywell's account sounds pretty close to me:

quote:

On another occasion where my primary romantic partner at the time, Paul Wouters, was also present, Jacob ignored my use of a safeword when his sexual behavior turned into violent behavior that violated my limits. Paul and I both had to repeatedly tell Jacob to stop, and the experience was profoundly upsetting.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
also this one from earlier today https://blog.patternsinthevoid.net/the-forest-for-the-trees.html

Casual Encountess
Dec 14, 2005

"You can see how they go from being so sweet to tearing your face off,
just like that,
and it's amazing to have that range."


Thunderdome Exclusive

whoa ok this is waaaay more serious than I thought. I thought it was just about a nerd making awkward sex jokes





gently caress that guy

Buttcoin purse
Apr 24, 2014

It sounds like maybe things got ugly at a sex party where Tor developers were in attendance? I'm guessing it was when they walked in the room, right?

I'm not saying rape is okay but it sounds like a terrible place to be even if there isn't a rapist there :barf:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

A Pinball Wizard
Mar 23, 2005

I know every trick, no freak's gonna beat my hands

College Slice

Buttcoin purse posted:

I'm not saying rape is okay but

oh sweet we found the hot new "I'm not racist but" of 2016

Graff
May 10, 2012

A Pinball Wizard posted:

oh sweet we found the hot new "I'm not racist but" of 2016

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
I'm totally in a poly triangle with one

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

Buttcoin purse posted:

I'm not saying rape is okay

new thread title

fritz
Jul 26, 2003

things that get you banned:
* printing 'die techie scum' on the working printer

things that don't:
* that applebaum poo poo

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost
the good news is that theres a good chance they're going to die

quote:

[Noisebridge-discuss] Free yacht (pirate ketch) in Berkeley
Andrew Grosser
Mon May 9 14:46:07 UTC 2016

Hi guys,

There's a boat that sunk in the berkeley marina, and I thought it would be
a fun challenge to get it back up and out. If we do we can keep it. A
noisebridge pirate boat!

Rrrrrrrrrrr. ;)
Andy

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

fritz posted:

things that get you banned:
* printing 'die techie scum' on the working printer
iirc they convened an emergency meeting to expedite the banning of the woman doing that

OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

quote:

Jonathan was asked not to come back, due to allegations of organizing illegal activities from within Noisebridge and theft. A few days later, he had a proxy return to the space a few days later on his behalf to retrieve blankets, etc. that he'd apparently stashed in the darkroom. However, what his proxy took was apparently not the blankets that he wanted, and he shortly thereafter came upstairs and went into the darkroom, himself leaving with items that appeared to be bedsheets. The fabric his associate had taken was found in a heap at the bottom of the elevator and returned to the darkroom. Several days later, Jonathan returned to Noisebridge with his hand shoved in a gym bag, claiming he had a gun. He continued pushing past people to get into the main space, screaming constantly about killing everyone and then himself, and that everyone was to leave, or he would kill them all. He also claimed that the cops were hot on his trail and would arrive at Noisebridge at any moment, and that he intended to provoke a suicide-by-cop. Not sure on whether or not he did have a gun, people were not taking a chance as they filed for the exit. However, Derek, Jedi, Rayc, Ben, stayed behind, calling him on his bullshit. Four people swarmed him as he made a b-line sprint for the fire escape. They wrestled him to the floor and removed his bags away from him. Jedi arm barred and escorted Jonathan down the stairs to the sidewalk, bringing him over to the quickly-amassing phalanx of squad cars. Immediate consensus was that he is not welcome in the space again.

RISCy Business
Jun 17, 2015

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Fun Shoe

Buttcoin purse posted:

I'm not saying rape is okay but

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPAZvxmLfcQ

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Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

my primary romantic partner at the time

beep boop

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