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Rodnik
Dec 20, 2003
How many lives were saved due to decreases in infant mortality, and increased access to adequate medical care? Improvement of working conditions?

According to the CIA "A newborn child in 1926-27 had a life expectancy of 44.4 years, up from 32.3 years thirty years before. In 1958-59 the life expectancy for newborns went up to 68.6 years."

Sometimes when you want to be an instrument of History you have to break a few eggs.

Rodnik fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Dec 21, 2014

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Rodnik
Dec 20, 2003

icantfindaname posted:

Ahahahahhahahahhahahahahah you're actually, unironically making the "but life expectancy rose!!!!" argument

Don't even get me started on literacy. We will never know exactly how many lives Stalin saved.

Rodnik fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Dec 21, 2014

Rodnik
Dec 20, 2003

FrozenVent posted:

You can't really use newborn life expectancy in a vacuum like that, it's a very misleading number.

If Russia had a life expectancy of 44.4 years in 1925, and everyone else was at 70 or whatever, that still sucks, sorry. And 1958 is after the discovery of antibiotics, something Stalin had little to do with. Plus I'm sure there would have been ways to achieve that without forced labor and political execution; most western countries did after all.

Your argument is basically a Russified version of "but Hitler also did some good things for Germany!" :godwin:

The life expectancy of South Africa today would indicate that the invention of antibiotics does not automatically make everyone live longer. A nation that can produce and distribute antibiotics when 50 years ago it was still a near feudal economy does though!

And of course comparing Stalin to Hitler is the most ridiculous argument. The most obvious part being that Stalin won.

Rodnik fucked around with this message at 23:22 on Dec 21, 2014

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