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e_angst posted:That way they can claim that it's "scratch/dent resistant", when in reality it means that if you get that piece scratched or dented you can't just have a dude at a body shop fix it up on the cheap, you have to buy a replacement panel. Also so it looks incredibly lovely within 3-5 years, encouraging you to move to a newer model.
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simmyb posted:What is with the boner US car makers have for those hideous matte plastic panels everywhere what the gently caress Come on man who wouldn't want to drive this beauty?  
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CommieGIR posted:Is there a citable study I can get for this? One single study? No. Pimpmust posted:I don't think there's any "one" study that you can rely on. Even the good analysts can end up using bad data, or a bad model, so you'll always have to double check everything if you want to be reasonable sure of something. [Here's a thorough analysis of potential sources you could use.] This is a great rundown, especially since nothing is particularly certain in the world of energy economics. I'll add a bit more here, but on more specific points raised in your previous post: quote:This is complicated (all over the world) by how connected much of the economy is with the oil price, a lot of countries will see increased growth just by taking advantage of the low prices, which will trigger higher oil prices in an of itself. Get too high and things start creaking in the seams, even if alternatives get a significant boost as well (which may eventually lead to decoupling oil and economic growth, but we're not there yet by a long shot). This point (the volatile fluctuation of oil prices, in relation to supply, demand and price signals) is very similar to what Richard Heinberg describes as the Goldilocks syndrome. You can find more here: http://richardheinberg.com/225-earth%E2%80%99s-limits-why-growth-won%E2%80%99t-return quote:To note is that while comparing world dollar per barrel prices with fracking costs, the actual price US producers gets is usual in the range of 10-15 dollars lower, due to infrastructure issues. Then there's the balance of "technology makes everything (including physics) cheaper!" vs "well we already got the easy stuff up... " to consider, but while technology improvements can keep a play profitable/producing for longer, it won't ever overcome the basics of needing to drill new spots. Even more so important with fracking, as they tend to rapidly lose production from existing plays. If you want a "citable study" on this, I'd highly recommend Dr. J. David Hughes's "report on American unconventional petroleum extraction ("Drill, Baby, Drill"). Because I know that people in D&D rarely like to read full reports, here's the executive summary: http://www.postcarbon.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/DBD-Exec-Summary.pdf Hubbert fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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It's a full on panic in Russia right now with no sign of things improving until oil prices risequote:Scenes that Russians hoped had receded into the past reappeared on the streets. Currency exchange signs blinked ever-changing digits. Russians rushed to appliance stores to buy washing machines or televisions to unload rubles. Unsure of prices, car dealerships like Volvo in Russia halted business, while Apple stopped online sales in the country.
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Arkane posted:Couple points... From a few pages back but I thought this was interesting. Is this a consequence of the financialization of the economy and fewer domestic industries? Maybe lower job participation?
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FatCow posted:People have different needs from their vehicles? If you need a truck or SUV, then you would have already bought one regardless of the fuel prices going down. If anything, fuel prices dropping should provide less motivation for people to replace older models with worse fuel mileage, so I'd say the people who legit need a truck or SUV are less likely to replace it when fuel prices are lower. If you have the ability to choose whether you want a fuel efficient vehicle instead of an SUV or truck, only then would low fuel prices motivate you to purchase a new SUV or truck. Which is what's happening. Pryor on Fire posted:It's a full on panic in Russia right now with no sign of things improving until oil prices rise I know the US wanted to destabilize Russia, but I'm guessing they didn't want to destabilize it quite to this degree.
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Ron Jeremy posted:From a few pages back but I thought this was interesting. Is this a consequence of the financialization of the economy and fewer domestic industries? Maybe lower job participation? Seems like this tracks pretty well with continually increasing worker productivity in the U.S., if that's not a circuitous or tautologous argument. More productivity per fewer workers using transportation that is oil-intensive, but the same baseline heavy industry and power-generation oil consumption underpinning the overall amount. Gunshow Poophole fucked around with this message at 23:03 on Dec 16, 2014 |
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Russia is hosed and it's probably intentional.
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PT6A posted:I know the US wanted to destabilize Russia, but I'm guessing they didn't want to destabilize it quite to this degree. Soon the ultra-nationalists take over and a combination of Crimson tide and CoD: Modern warfare happens in real life. Exciting times. If you can avoid the nukes.
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PT6A posted:I know the US wanted to destabilize Russia, but I'm guessing they didn't want to destabilize it quite to this degree. I know people much smarter than I have said that this wasn't the intent of OPECs refusal to cut production, but I'm still going to believe it in my paranoid mind.
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Radbot posted:I know people much smarter than I have said that this wasn't the intent of OPECs refusal to cut production, but I'm still going to believe it in my paranoid mind. Yeah besides, when has OPEC actually cut production when they said they would? Maybe the Saudis do, but....
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That Russia situation has me genuinely worried. Imagine the military-industrial complex's orgasms if/when Putin is backed into a corner and strikes back. I don't think they're far from Capital controls.
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Trabisnikof posted:Yeah besides, when has OPEC actually cut production when they said they would? Maybe the Saudis do, but.... Saudi oil was like 40% of OPEC total production in 2013, so even if just that country sticks to the decision it still affects overall supply.
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I know that Russia is hosed but where are you guys seeing that the Obama administration was in contact with OPEC and encouraged their actions?
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Farking Bastage posted:That Russia situation has me genuinely worried. Imagine the military-industrial complex's orgasms if/when Putin is backed into a corner and strikes back. I don't think they're far from Capital controls. Pre-Pearl Harbor, but instead of a resource consumer, "Japan" is a resource producer.
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jet sanchEz posted:I know that Russia is hosed but where are you guys seeing that the Obama administration was in contact with OPEC and encouraged their actions? He didn't, OPEC don't give a poo poo about anything except making money. Only 3 members can afford production cuts, and cutting production don't make them more money.
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MaxxBot posted:Come on man who wouldn't want to drive this beauty? AI worst car, right here.
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CommieGIR posted:AI worst car, right here. what about this one? 
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double nine posted:what about this one? The Aztec tried to pretend to be a serious contender. That one doesn't even try. And that one has redeeming qualities, whereas the Aztec has none.
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http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/obama-signing-russia-ukraine-sanctions-bill.html Obama is signing a bill approving even more economic sanctions on Russia. The bill itself has been in process for a while, but this decision is certainly very timely.
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esquilax posted:http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/17/world/europe/obama-signing-russia-ukraine-sanctions-bill.html The bill approves the ability of the President to impose sanctions; it doesn't impose sanctions. Huge difference.
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whitey delenda est posted:Seems like this tracks pretty well with continually increasing worker productivity in the U.S., if that's not a circuitous or tautologous argument. More productivity per fewer workers using transportation that is oil-intensive, but the same baseline heavy industry and power-generation oil consumption underpinning the overall amount. Don't we NOT have the same heavy industry though? If a steel factory is moved from Ohio to China, doesn't oil consumption go down while GDP stays the same or goes up?
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My Imaginary GF posted:The bill approves the ability of the President to impose sanctions; it doesn't impose sanctions. Huge difference. If it just authorizes him to impose sanctions, why had he been hemming and hawing over it? Serious question.
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esquilax posted:If it just authorizes him to impose sanctions, why had he been hemming and hawing over it? Serious question. Because it allows Russians to have a propaganda coup, since they're unable to differentiate rule by law from America's rule of law.
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double nine posted:what about this one?  Europe also has its ugly as poo poo cars.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHbiSiNNCgY
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Antwan3K posted:
To be fair, this car was apparently terrific in every respect other than looks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4QtV7KU3r6w
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Aromatic Stretch posted:To be fair, this car was apparently terrific in every respect other than looks. The auto equivalent of: she has a great personality.
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hey hubbert, wheres the best place to get month-by-month charts now that TOD is dead?
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Genuine question I have: What'll be the impact of 35,000 DOT-111 standard guage rolling stock entering the export market between now and 2020? I know Kenya has a railway system under development which could use some of these, where else? What I'm thinking is, who has rail without pipelines and fracking potential.
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MaxxBot posted:Come on man who wouldn't want to drive this beauty? 
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PT6A posted:If you need a truck or SUV, then you would have already bought one regardless of the fuel prices going down. If anything, fuel prices dropping should provide less motivation for people to replace older models with worse fuel mileage, so I'd say the people who legit need a truck or SUV are less likely to replace it when fuel prices are lower. It's a yankee message, it means gently caress you.
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StabbinHobo posted:hey hubbert, wheres the best place to get month-by-month charts now that TOD is dead? Nothing worth mentioning. 
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Farking Bastage posted:Russia is hosed and it's probably intentional. Well Russia has been dealing with a US troll campaign that included things such as cutting off bond access, banning import of western oil technology and also various types of economic sanctions. Of course crude oil imploding is probably more devastating to the russian economy than any of the above.
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The Russian troll campaign of invade, annex and trigger civil wars was considered, by the top 10 diplomats of diplomat weekly, to be really loving mean and totally not cool.
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Stereotypical Russian reaction to stereotypical Russian paranoia ends up working out terribly for Russia you say?? 
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ReV VAdAUL posted:This report seems very optimistic about LNG: If BC Canada can get their LNG super ports built for China and Europe that'll be a large amount of LNG coming online to the market.
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whitey delenda est posted:Seems like this tracks pretty well with continually increasing worker productivity in the U.S., if that's not a circuitous or tautologous argument. More productivity per fewer workers using transportation that is oil-intensive, but the same baseline heavy industry and power-generation oil consumption underpinning the overall amount. The decoupling occurs slightly before the GFC hit. So I'm more inclined to guess that it's a result of the average American not being able to afford to use as much oil as previously combined with speculative bubbles pumped up by ZIRP and QE.
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Kind of funny the sanctions et al have jumped from being seen as ineffective to far too effective so rapidly. Still, I think the view that the drop in oil prices being a deliberate thing by America comes from the same place, though to a far less crazy degree, as JFK assassination conspiracies and 9/11 truth. That is, it's far less scary to imagine there is someone in control of global events than to think events with huge consequences can just sort of happen.
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The ruble collapse is a consequence of OPEC's decision. I don't think you have to be a conspiracy theorist to think the Gulf States, maybe with the support/pressure of the US, took into account the geopolitical consequences against Russia and Iran when making their decision.
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