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Young Freud posted:CNN has slowly become Fox News over the years, serious talk. Not quite, both obviously share total apathy for journalism except as a path to eyeballs for their advertisers, but CNN's massive incompetence and tendency to cater to the middle makes them way less dangerous than FOX.
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I'm pretty sure both stations cater to the middle.
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Jan 1, 2015 16:15
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Shageletic posted:Why isn't the Drafthouse building a theater in actually inhabited New York City? Its crazy that I have to travel a good distance to get anything approaching a good cinema experience. They were building one at the old Metro Theater (100th st & Broadway) but stopped right before they were going to renovate the place and scrapped plans. Think they're going ahead with one in Brooklyn, but that is too far for me to travel for movie going so I haven't paid much attention. There's plenty of good cinema experiences in NYC though, including the AMC at 84th and Broadway and the theaters at Lincoln Center so? The Chelsea Cinemas is also finally getting a renovation on a theater by theater basis.
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Jan 1, 2015 16:42
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New York City doesn't need a Drafthouse.
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Jan 1, 2015 17:50
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:New York City doesn't need a Drafthouse. I live in the hinterlands of the Bronx/Manhattan borderlands so I've never been, but isn't Nitehawk pretty much the same as a Drafthouse? Anyway, I agree.
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Jan 1, 2015 18:10
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Yeah that's pretty much the Nitehawk. All I frequent are the shitholes that nobody goes to (Quad Cinema and the like) or rep theatres that don't need any more frou-frou on top of what they've got for you (AFA and Film Forum).
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Jan 1, 2015 18:14
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Random Stranger posted:Oh man, no matter who it is, you know what they spill is going to be terrible. That would be unusual as This American Life isn't made by NPR unless you meant when he worked for them in the early 1990's. As for the leaks, either they're bluffing or they'll be destroyed like Bank of America's incriminating docs were.
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Jan 1, 2015 18:21
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What was the deal with that BOA stuff anyway, was it all just illegal industry practices and poo poo?
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Jan 1, 2015 18:22
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The saddest thing about FOX News is that national treasure Shepard Smith isn't allowed to be openly gay or he'd lose his job.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6SAfvtuzhk
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Jan 2, 2015 01:08
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I bet they let it happen at some point.
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precision posted:The saddest thing about FOX News is that national treasure Shepard Smith isn't allowed to be openly gay or he'd lose his job. I think on the list of saddest things about Fox News that's probably a 5 or 6
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:What was the deal with that BOA stuff anyway, was it all just illegal industry practices and poo poo? We don't know, the files were deleted by Daniel Domscheit-Berg while he was leaving Wikileaks. The only reason it was known it was BoA was due to them announcing beforehand they had contents of a hard drive from a BoA executive. Anyway, I derailed this thread slightly so I'll re-explain. I was under the impression they would be released of Christmas and there wasn't anything then or now. It would be interesting to see them in terms of schadenfreude but I don't think they'll see the light of a computer screen.
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Jan 2, 2015 02:42
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Nighthawk is awesome. If we had another theater like Nighthawk I would only be happy. It's not strictly necessary but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be great. I just can't believe how hard they dropped the ball on their locations. Upper West Side? South Brooklyn? Yonkers? Way to 100% not understand your target demographic.
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Jan 2, 2015 10:43
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Random Stranger posted:I'm going to go out on a limb and say that now that they've announced this, they don't actually do it beyond a few photo-opportunity releases. It's useless, meaningless, and stupidly expensive. It's a bare minimum of $10 per balloon so if they did it the way that they're claiming they're going to then they'd blow over a million dollars on this stunt with absolutely no benefit since no one in North Korea could watch it anyway. I know this won't mesh well with your "lol hermit kingdom so ronery" conception of the DPRK but they do actually have televisions.
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Jan 2, 2015 12:54
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HorseLord posted:I know this won't mesh well with your "lol hermit kingdom so ronery" conception of the DPRK but they do actually have televisions. Yes, they do. But they don't have a lot of computers that can play movies off of USB drives or even DVD players.
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Eggnogium posted:Not quite, both obviously share total apathy for journalism except as a path to eyeballs for their advertisers, but CNN's massive incompetence and tendency to cater to the middle makes them way less dangerous than FOX. The Middle is just fence sitting silliness. Say what you want about Conservatism but at least itīs an ethos.
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HorseLord posted:I know this won't mesh well with your "lol hermit kingdom so ronery" conception of the DPRK but they do actually have televisions. VHS is the standard for resistance media over there. The secret police regularly shut off the power and raid homes to check whether they had banned tapes in the family VCR.
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North Korea does have DVD players. It might surprise you but late 90s technology isn't an unknown for people who share a land border with china.
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HorseLord posted:North Korea does have DVD players. It might surprise you but late 90s technology isn't an unknown for people who share a land border with china. nahhhhh
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Jan 3, 2015 04:32
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So was it Best Korea or some disgruntled employees then?
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Jan 3, 2015 08:19
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Random Stranger posted:Yes, they do. But they don't have a lot of computers that can play movies off of USB drives or even DVD players. A significant enough quantity of people have some sort of electronic device capable of playing movies, and there is a vibrant black market in imported movies in the country. I highly recommend that everyone curious about foreign media exposure and general life in the DPRK watch this great documentary from Frontline, which is available online for free: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/secret-state-of-north-korea/ The filmmakers interview a North Korean who regularly smuggles Western and South Korean media into the DPRK. I believe they touch on the balloon thing as well (though I seem to recall that it hasn't been too successful).
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FreudianSlippers posted:The Middle is just fence sitting silliness. Say what you want about Conservatism but at least itīs an ethos. That's why its dangerous. Which is basically what he was saying.
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HorseLord posted:North Korea does have DVD players. It might surprise you but late 90s technology isn't an unknown for people who share a land border with china.
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TetsuoTW posted:One of my favorite parts of all this, aside from Channing Tatum's emails, has been seeing people talk about North Korea like it's just a giant square of dirt and caves in the middle of the ocean. It's amazing how many people believe that kim jong-un's girlfriend's haircut was eaten alive by a firing squad as crowds of people mourned his golf score. Goons fall for every ridiculous bullshit story about the place, but claim they're the ones brainwashed. HorseLord fucked around with this message at 12:03 on Jan 3, 2015 |
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Jan 3, 2015 11:59
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On the other hand North Korea doesn't do itself any favors with some of the cartoonish bullshit it actually does. It's like they're that one kid in elementary school that you once saw eating dirt for an entire recess, so when someone tells you he totally got a dog to lick peanut butter off his balls and dick you can't help thinking it just might be true.
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Jan 3, 2015 12:16
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...but you gently caress ONE goat...
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TetsuoTW posted:On the other hand North Korea doesn't do itself any favors with some of the cartoonish bullshit it actually does. It's like they're that one kid in elementary school that you once saw eating dirt for an entire recess, so when someone tells you he totally got a dog to lick peanut butter off his balls and dick you can't help thinking it just might be true. Literally how the rest of the world views america
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HorseLord posted:North Korea does have DVD players. It might surprise you but late 90s technology isn't an unknown for people who share a land border with china. It depends on who and where. Pyongyang: yeah probably, that's them putting their best foot forward. Where people are deliberately put out of the way and starving: probably not.
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It is believable that they can't watch DVDs because they have radios set to a single frequency (and you get sent to a camp if you alter it) and watching a Hollywood movie is punished by death. Computer science students (children of the elite) don't even know what the internet is and their foreign teachers aren't allowed to tell them about it. One guy's family got sent to a camp because as a kid he took a poo poo and said it looked like the mountain that Kim Jong Il was(n't) born at the base of. It's easy to believe "crazy" things about the DPRK because even crazier things are true. North Korea is like living on the moon.
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People believe normal people have rights in North Korea?  Watch some of the many documentaries and realize the country is a prison for all citizens.
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HorseLord posted:Literally how the rest of the world views america
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrCQh1usdzE Highlight: The one North Korean sitting at the Google search screen pretending he's working.
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Vintersorg posted:People believe normal people have rights in North Korea? Have you watched the Frontline documentary I posted above? DPRK is a lovely, oppressive country, but it's not literally 1984. There's pretty interesting hidden camera footage of people mouthing off to soldiers, openly selling things on the black market, etc. In one interesting example a woman operating an illegal van transportation service is stopped by soldiers, immediately starts yelling at and even hitting them, and they simply walk away sheepishly. There are also horror stories of people being tortured in the streets, but this is not the only experience.
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Ok, dvds and usb drives are increasingly common in North Korea: http://audiencescapes.org/sites/default/files/A_Quiet_Opening_FINAL_InterMedia.pdf This is pretty different from what I had thought was the case.
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Groovelord Neato posted:It is believable that they can't watch DVDs because they have radios set to a single frequency (and you get sent to a camp if you alter it) and watching a Hollywood movie is punished by death. Computer science students (children of the elite) don't even know what the internet is and their foreign teachers aren't allowed to tell them about it. One guy's family got sent to a camp because as a kid he took a poo poo and said it looked like the mountain that Kim Jong Il was(n't) born at the base of. It's easy to believe "crazy" things about the DPRK because even crazier things are true. None of this is true.
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Everything I said is true, actually.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Everything I said is true, actually. I imagine the pressurized domes require quite a lot of work to maintain.
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Groovelord Neato posted:Everything I said is true, actually. No, it isn't. Like, most of it was disproved by the actual research Jack Gladney just posted, the rest of it is the usual kim-jong il golf score nonsense. For Christ's sake I'd imagine radios that can only pick up a single frequency would be more than a little daft in a country with dozens of different stations.
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HorseLord posted:I'd imagine radios that can only pick up a single frequency This..what.. "set to" doesn't mean "can only pick up".
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Groovelord Neato posted:This..what.. Then why did you use that phrasing, if not to mean that? You even said changing it would get them sent to a camp. Did you mean that in the rest of the world, radios play multiple stations simultaneously? None of mine do that; I imagine hearing everything on the FM band in one go would be a bit unintelligible. HorseLord fucked around with this message at 20:38 on Jan 3, 2015 |
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