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nazi games on steam: 1) hatred 2) day of defeat 3) call of duty
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closeted republican posted:At this point, the meltdowns over the game getting greenlit seem to be just as, if not more than, entertaining than the game itself: Hatred's a big dumb pile of poo poo but those meltdowns are hilarious 
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Jan 1, 2015 01:34
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I'm disappointed no click-bait articles have been written about. Complete with accusing all 100,000 green light supporters of misogyny, mentioning ethics in journalism, talking about how this one lovely game is alienating women, etc etc. Maybe the shills are learning, oh well. We will see for sure come release.
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Jan 1, 2015 02:29
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King Vidiot posted:Hatred's a big dumb pile of poo poo but those meltdowns are hitlarious
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Jan 1, 2015 03:58
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Oh man do I love twitter meltdowns. Please post more.
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Jan 1, 2015 04:28
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closeted republican posted:At this point, the meltdowns over the game getting greenlit seem to be just as, if not more than, entertaining than the game itself: I hope they put out a four pack!
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Jan 1, 2015 07:33
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King Vidiot posted:Hatred's a big dumb pile of poo poo but those meltdowns are hilarious i kinda want a game that is actually claiming to be a genocide simulator to be seriously made now just to see these people go supernova and it could be done in a way that is a historically accurate strategy title, then what
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Jan 1, 2015 08:18
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CrashCat posted:definitely, that pic just keeps on giving Technically, Plague Inc. is a genocide simulator where you kill men, women and children in a brutal and terrifying way. Also, Victoria II/EU IV also serve as genocide simulators too. I mean, you can basically subjugate entire cultures and Westernize them, erasing them from history entirely. Not to mention stomping the rebels and executing countless numbers of them. And in CK II you can be a pagan Viking, take an enemy King's wife as a concubine and sacrifice him to Odin. And there's countless strategy games where you can play as the Nazis and win WWII. There's plenty of horrible poo poo you can do in strategy/grand strategy. The problem is that it has to be graphic, otherwise it wouldn't evoke the same emotions. Pips, numbers and sprites don't carry the same outrage as being knee-deep in well-rendered blood, gore and bodies. Its an obvious contradiction, but they'd look even dumber decrying grand strategy games. Not to mention doing so doesn't generate many clicks for the outrage machine. It'd probably end up like the Polygon review of Tropico V, where the reviewer felt he had the blood of literal children on his hands from playing the game. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 11:44 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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Jan 1, 2015 11:40
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You could probably evoke the same emotional response in the outrage-addict with sound effects. Modify those games with weeping, crying, pained screams of the dying, watch people lose all objectivity and flip out.
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Jan 1, 2015 11:56
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The Snark posted:You could probably evoke the same emotional response in the outrage-addict with sound effects. Modify those games with weeping, crying, pained screams of the dying, watch people lose all objectivity and flip out. Probably, yeah. The irony isn't lost on me that these sort of people allowed it to get green-lit in, what, a couple of days? A normal game can take months. Also, the most voted game on Greenlit ever, for fucks sake. Not to mention the fact that a game like this is never going to get any good press. For the creators, at best it'll be on several obscure websites, generate a little bit of outrage, enough to break even in sales. At worst, it would be completely ignored and get buried in the voluminous amounts of crap shoveled on Steam everyday and die a slow death it (more than likely) deserved. The creators know this and went right for the clickbait. They created an outrage generating trailer meant to poke the beehive and everyone played their assigned parts. Outrage was drummed up on major gaming websites, twitter warriors called for a ban, got it banned, other twitter warriors called for it to be unbanned, it was unbanned and they green-lit it because it became their pet issue. Now the other twitter warriors are screaming and boycotting Valve, drawing even more attention to it and to Steam. Hatred is on track to make money, no matter how much a piece of poo poo it or its creators are. Maybe a lot of money. At the very least it will create a handful of outrage imitators to try to ride the outrage gravy train and show outrage is an effective marketing tactic. All because people couldn't shut the gently caress up about it and realize that their reaction was the desired and entire point of the trailer and marketing. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 12:21 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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Jan 1, 2015 12:16
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I'm not going to bemoan this. The people who flip out over these things are specifically looking for things to flip out over anyway it seems. Far better to have the idiots focused on a game like this than, say, making a Scientist cry over his shirt.
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Jan 1, 2015 12:20
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CrashCat posted:definitely, that pic just keeps on giving Holocauster Tycoon? Build railways to carry the undersirables to the extermination camps! Be sure to strike the correct balance between dehumanisation, efficiency, and popular support, or your department might get purged by the glorious leader! OwlFancier fucked around with this message at 12:34 on Jan 1, 2015 |
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Jan 1, 2015 12:32
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I like how culture in a space game basically means that different races are quickly exterminated and exactly replaced by the superior culture. You don't get the traits or building tech of the race you conquered, so you can't explain them just adapting to your rule.
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Jan 1, 2015 16:12
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i like how this thread has been the same four or five posters for the past 5 pages
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Jan 1, 2015 16:14
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Clickbaited again.
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Jan 1, 2015 16:27
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Dapper Dan posted:It'd probably end up like the Polygon review of Tropico V, where the reviewer felt he had the blood of literal children on his hands from playing the game. I had to look that up... Polygon posted:BLOOD ON THE SAND Hahahaha that is loving priceless. It'll be worth Hatred coming out just to be able to see the exact moment in the review where the writer has a stroke.
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Jan 1, 2015 17:17
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Endorph posted:i like how this thread has been the same four or five posters for the past 5 pages
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Jan 1, 2015 18:07
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Not that I condone this game or plan to buy it, but I get the feeling stupid poo poo like that Polygon article on Tropico 5 are why so many gamers were Greenlighting this piece of poo poo.
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Jan 1, 2015 18:11
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Not that I condone this game or plan to buy it, but I get the feeling stupid poo poo like that Polygon article on Tropico 5 are why so many gamers were Greenlighting this piece of poo poo. Yeah. It is worth it to just to make them pissed off and wring their hands some more. King Vidiot posted:Hahahaha that is loving priceless. It'll be worth Hatred coming out just to be able to see the exact moment in the review where the writer has a stroke. Polygon is an endless source of stupid garbage that can be mocked into the ground, so it pays to troll them just to see what comes out of it. I mean, these were the guys who hired Ben 'Controllers feel like real human breasts' Kuchera.
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Jan 2, 2015 06:23
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Mr. Fortitude posted:Not that I condone this game or plan to buy it, but I get the feeling stupid poo poo like that Polygon article on Tropico 5 are why so many gamers were Greenlighting this piece of poo poo. so the result was predictable, people got repeatedly blindsided by what Polygon was putting out and got more and more upset about it
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Jan 2, 2015 08:02
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CrashCat posted:yeah, even long before gg hit Polygon was already notorious for a tendency to post really whiny articles that had less to do about playing games than what the games do to society. i guess there's a niche for that, but they didn't even bill it like that on the site from what i could tell. it seems to me like that is a big enough break from the norm that they should have embraced it and branded around it, but my guess is they wanted to keep a mainstream audience while providing niche content.
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Jan 2, 2015 08:12
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Endorph posted:i feel like after one or two times they would realize that polygon wasn't a site they'd want to read and move on with their lives thus, internet activism
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Jan 2, 2015 08:19
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CrashCat posted:most would, but they would accumulate and the mentally ill will keep coming back anyway, and eventually you have a whole lynch mob of angry idiots with a few insane people to spur them on
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Jan 2, 2015 08:23
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Endorph posted:are you talking about gamergate or sjws here
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Jan 2, 2015 08:25
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CrashCat posted:does it even matter
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Jan 2, 2015 08:25
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CrashCat posted:yeah, even long before gg hit Polygon was already notorious for a tendency to post really whiny articles that had less to do about playing games than what the games do to society. i guess there's a niche for that, but they didn't even bill it like that on the site from what i could tell. it seems to me like that is a big enough break from the norm that they should have embraced it and branded around it, but my guess is they wanted to keep a mainstream audience while providing niche content. i always assumed they were just another poo poo gaming website (they did hire ben kuchera after all). i never really read polygon before, so that Tropico 5 article came as a hilarious surprise. Attached with a pretty whiny, pathetic writer. i don't really give a poo poo about them or what they do. i just occasionally read their articles because they are almost universally awful and hilarious at the same time. i mean, holy poo poo they named a micro-transaction game about kim loving kardashian the most progressive game of the summer. that's comedy gold right there.
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Jan 2, 2015 08:44
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Dapper Dan posted:i always assumed they were just another poo poo gaming website (they did hire ben kuchera after all). i never really read polygon before, so that Tropico 5 article came as a hilarious surprise. Attached with a pretty whiny, pathetic writer. i don't really give a poo poo about them or what they do. i just occasionally read their articles because they are almost universally awful and hilarious at the same time. i mean, holy poo poo they named a micro-transaction game about kim loving kardashian the most progressive game of the summer. that's comedy gold right there.
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Jan 2, 2015 08:51
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Archer666 posted:Can't talk about Polish violent games and not mention Franko: The Crazy Revenge
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Jan 2, 2015 08:57
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Dapper Dan posted:i always assumed they were just another poo poo gaming website (they did hire ben kuchera after all). i never really read polygon before, so that Tropico 5 article came as a hilarious surprise. Attached with a pretty whiny, pathetic writer. i don't really give a poo poo about them or what they do. i just occasionally read their articles because they are almost universally awful and hilarious at the same time. i mean, holy poo poo they named a micro-transaction game about kim loving kardashian the most progressive game of the summer. that's comedy gold right there. Are we talking about the Tropico 5 article where the guy has problems with the game because you can send anyone you like to prison? I still wonder who the gently caress can't handle pixel men being put in a prison. Not even killed, just put into prison.
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Jan 2, 2015 09:53
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dogstile posted:Are we talking about the Tropico 5 article where the guy has problems with the game because you can send anyone you like to prison? I still wonder who the gently caress can't handle pixel men being put in a prison. Not even killed, just put into prison. Yup. http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/4/5720864/tropico-5-review-wasted-away-again Here are some of the good parts: quote:It was hard for me to get perspective on all the charming quirks of Kim Jong Il, Envar Hoxha and Nicolae Ceaușescu — people who I was imitating in the game — when I knew that they were responsible for the rape, murder and enslavement of many thousands, perhaps even millions of real people. Instead of making me chuckle, Tropico 5 constantly reminded me of all the blood staining my hands I've never read a review where I've seen a reviewer being such a huge pussy. It really is hilarious, though I don't know how a person like that actually functions if a video game bothers him that much. CrashCat posted:i was once bummed that such a nice looking site (at least in mobile view) was wasting that pretty design on garbage, but then i read an article that was the equivalent of committing a crime just so you can see a police officer and tell them about what you had for breakfast. an article so bad that i lost any shred of sympathy. i don't even remember what the article was anymore, but it was definitely some prime non sequitur bullshit Color me not surprised. I remember them saying they were going full on progressive or making up a new progressive site. I can't really remember but I honestly don't give a poo poo either way, because whatever it is I'm sure it'll involve awful, hilarious click-bait garbage. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 10:48 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Jan 2, 2015 10:44
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Thompsons posted:Hotline Miami 2 The Snark posted:You could probably evoke the same emotional response in the outrage-addict with sound effects. Modify those games with weeping, crying, pained screams of the dying, watch people lose all objectivity and flip out. Bein serious for a second for a moment, well duh. gamers ruin game's!!! Cuntellectual fucked around with this message at 10:57 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Jan 2, 2015 10:53
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Dapper Dan posted:i mean, holy poo poo they named a micro-transaction game about kim loving kardashian the most progressive game of the summer. that's comedy gold right there. Leigh Alexander put that in her top 5 of 2014. Seems like a blatant attempt to troll gamergaters. This is the current state of the cultural conversation about games. An ongoing spat between self-righteous twats desperate to think their navelgazing about electronic toys has some social importance and people who want to gun them down in said toys. Happy new 2015.
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Jan 2, 2015 14:50
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Karpaw posted:Leigh Alexander put that in her top 5 of 2014. Seems like a blatant attempt to troll gamergaters. Kind of, but I think it is more a hipster thing to do. Quite possibly the largest amount of hipster douche-baggery you can pull off when writing about games. "Oh, people don't like a mobile game designed to gently caress the consumer hard with a spiky dildo by including as many micro-transactions as possible while being designed around a horrible excuse for a human being? They just don't get it like I do, man  " The only way it could be worse is if it praised the Dungeon Keeper Mobile Remake as being the best re-imaging of the franchise. Obscure indie games have become too 'mainstream'. They gotta go all the way back around to money grabbing, poo poo mobile games that the entire gaming community hates but only they get the true message of. The article itself is about as subtle as a brick to the face with its intentions. It is written so obviously out of spite and contempt for the target audience, blatant non-conformism and a large helping of click-bait. It isn't anything to get frothing at the mouth screaming about. It is there to laugh at, because my God, you have to be one dumb motherfucker to actually believe that poo poo. And yeah, it looks like this is going to last a while. Probably well into this year. At least it is entertaining with the amount of stupid flying around on both sides. Dapper Dan fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jan 2, 2015 |
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Jan 2, 2015 15:47
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i think it's great the "they're just toys" thing only gained traction when the people who write about them got all condescending about those who consume them lol
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Jan 2, 2015 16:06
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Dapper Dan posted:Kind of, but I think it is more a hipster thing to do. Quite possibly the largest amount of hipster douche-baggery you can pull off when writing about games. "Oh, people don't like a mobile game designed to gently caress the consumer hard with a spiky dildo by including as many micro-transactions as possible while being designed around a horrible excuse for a human being? They just don't get it like I do, man
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Jan 2, 2015 17:05
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Dapper Dan posted:I've never read a review where I've seen a reviewer being such a huge pussy. It really is hilarious, though I don't know how a person like that actually functions if a video game bothers him that much. I mean, it's alright if doing bad things in a game makes you take a very brief pause to go "wow, that's hosed up" but that should be the extent of it. You shouldn't break down and start shaking because the Big Mean Game forced you to send the Secret Police to someone's house to kill their family.
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Jan 2, 2015 17:25
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I'm not sure that click-bait like polygon is actually harmless.
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Jan 2, 2015 17:29
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I think it is generous to assume that Leigh Alexander isn't stupid enough to sincerely like and defend the Give Kardashian Your Money game, but I sincerely don't care that she likes it if so. Kardashian will probably spend Alexander's money better than they would have otherwise. This is probably true of most people stupid enough to buy into it. Especially if they're doing so because Leigh Alexander endorsed it.
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Jan 2, 2015 19:50
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Even a neonazi is protesting this game http://www.gameranx.com/features/id/26029/article/why-hatred-doesn-t-deserve-a-platform-on-steam/ does it make it superbad or good?
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That depends if we can post about it in other threads. Don't do it.
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