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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
From what I've read the game is about killing civilians and they don't fight back, but obviously the police and other authorities start to hunt you down. Could be a cool escalating force game or it could be a high-tension "manhunt" type of game where if you go guns blazing constantly you'll get killed pretty quickly.

It could also just be an edgy game that sucks. But the important part is that the people who can't separate fantasy from reality and content from creators and think censorship can only come from the government are REALLY upset about it (see my title).

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Endorph posted:

is anyone actually raising a furor over this game? most of the articles and stuff i've seen have been 'it would have been controversial in 2004, but in 2014 it's just kind of dumb and laughable.'

Well there's that one guy who is obsessed with nazism, and changed my title, and Doug Lambardi from Valve who I assume removed it from greenlight to begin with. Who knows why though.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

Here's the big difference between this game and any other game that features violence:

This game was made by neo-nazis, or at the very least neo-nazi sympathizers.

You may be able to kill hookers and russians in other games but the big difference is when you do so you're not directly funding nazis. I'm sure there's a big audience out for this game, and they have all rights to sell it, I just don't really think Steam should be funding nazis.

Actually I tihnk this guy and the guy at Valve are literally the only people who care. Wait, does Ddraig work at valve :ohdear:

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Endorph posted:

yeah ill stop buying all those video games made in china like

electronics.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
The Gamergate one was really good too.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

The Snark posted:

I'm envious of your avatar actually, Powercrazy. The "Mass Simulators" fuckup makes it particularly special. If you ever change it, I might have to buy it myself.

They were SO HIGH on self-righteousness they couldn't be arsed to double-check their work. Sieg Hail indeed.

Agreed. That's why i haven't changed it yet. (also I'm trying to find another quality Heart-rear end avatar).

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I just hope the game will be good, and have cool + interesting mechanics :)

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

bigass jncos posted:

The way that many people on the games forum make fun of a video game/console they don't like is to get obsessed with hating that thing and identify with hating it.

In fact, three IT workers have already paid $5 for the last word in an argument about whether or not the Nazi game is good or bad.

It's :10bux: to change someone else's title, 5 to change your own. Who was the third?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Violence was inflicted upon my virtual image because of this game. Why does anyone give a gently caress about nazi's? Seems like it's just an intellectually vacuous vehicle for otherization. This thing i don't like was made by pedos/nazis/furries/rednecks/blacks/mexicans/swedes/jews/The Other. We get it, you don't like it, so what?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

il serpente cosmico posted:

Nazis are the Otherkin

Nazikin

Ekster posted:

lmao at people defending this lovely game out of 'principle'

Also lol at people basing their lovely game preferences on 'principle'

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

True story whenever I come across this video I'm compelled to watch it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJrbmRNNB20

ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 18:18 on Dec 18, 2014

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
Video games aren't real, hth.

icantfindaname posted:

won't SOMEBODY think of the poor beleaguered Polish extreme rightists???????? :qq:

Actually, no one needs to think about them. Because who the gently caress cares?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I legitimately hope it's actually a good game, but I know it will be shovleware trash that is using its "edginess" as its hook.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Oxyclean posted:

So what exactly is the difference between this lovely game and the 100s of other lovely/barely functional/dumb games to make it though greenlight in the past year?

Is it just that this one is trying extra hard to be ultraviolent and edgy?

Censor's aren't really known for their consistency, one of the many reasons they shouldn't have any influence on media.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

dogstile posted:

I like how my enjoyment of a game should be decided by whether my beliefs line up with the makers.

I hope that the next game I buy on steam has a questionnaire to decide what i'm allowed to play for me.

Agreed, also I hope there is social media integration, so that everyone who doesn't like the makers political opinions can obsess over them and I can laugh at them.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Shaman Ooglaboogla posted:

A large portion of the people defending it as free speech and decrying the "moralfags" would suddenly take huge offense to such a problematic game.

Who are the people, other then the nazi obsessed ones, decrying the game? I haven't seen anyone else upset about it. Come on give me the goods, I want to laugh at them.

e: And also who are the people 'defending' it? It doesn't need defending, it's just a potential game on Steam Greenlight.

ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Dec 18, 2014

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Eye of Widesauron posted:

I'm mildly irritated that yet another lovely game is trying to coast off of edgy marketing on early access, thus discrediting a tool that could be used by decent developers if it didn't have the stigma attached to it from lovely games like this and The War Z and countless other examples.

I dunno about upset though.

Yea I agree with this point. But beyond the academic, where's the outrage, the controversy? It seems we all pretty much agree here. I don't think anyone is going to buy the game.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

El Pollo Blanco posted:

Ah yes, monitoring the activities of alleged members of far-right and white supremacist groups is very similar to giving them free marketing, profound analysis there, very well done. I'll call the SPLC and tell them they should probably shut up shop now.

edit: that Polygon article is terrible though, and is free marketing, I agree.

Does my avatar trigger you, you little bitch?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Endorph posted:

its like a thanksgiving dinner that slowly devolves until two of your uncles are fistfighting

My uncles are cool, as long as they do it outside.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

d0s posted:

all the true believers from the gg thread are in here defending the honor of the nazi far right extremist game. shocking, imo

Agreed, we should be 'progressive' and censor dissenting thought and threaten and harass those that think differently then us.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

d0s posted:

agreed, particularly in the case of those blogs that wrote "gamers are dead" articles ;)

no not even to them, no not even the dreaded "other"

Ddraig posted:

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it does.

Your understanding of censorship is that of a 2nd grader copying definitions out of a dictionary

ate shit on live tv fucked around with this message at 17:21 on Dec 19, 2014

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

Please tell me how the vision of Hatred has been compromised please. What evil force has determined that it has crossed the line and they had to cut out the part where you kill lots of people.

Did they have kid loving in there but they had to cut it out to be put on Greenlight?

Nothing. It's 100% fine as it is right now. The only problem is that because some dumbass like you got his panties in a twist over nazis it's at #1 on steam greenlight, whereas before it wasn't even a blip. See what you did? See why you and your ilk are idiots?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

ThePhenomenalBaby posted:

I still don't know what gamergate even is

it's people like ddraig upset at "gamers" and people profitting off of them and cool buff dudes laughing at ddraig.

also it was a tweet by Animal Mother.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

THE PENETRATOR posted:

Whoever bought the avatar was too stupid to remember to include the word murder, turns out, if u didn't understand my post just then

SIEG HAIL! (sic)

I just love that he was so high on righteousness that he couldn't even coherently type what he was trying to say. It's why I haven't changed it yet. Also I'm looking for another rear end pic that is half as good as the one I had.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I like this one, but it's a selfy, so it's kind of hosed up.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
But really it's going to be hard to compete with this:

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth


This one I don't think would scale well, but I like it, maybe fix the font up a bit, idk.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

VideoGames posted:

your very angry at steam for daring to sell a game. i would have thought with such strong feelings you would make them know by distancing yourself from the problem

I too am curious about this.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

I said I was disappointed with Steam, which I am. You can be disappointed with something and not have feelings of Hatred for it.

Ddraig posted:

Just to be clear: I don't give a flying gently caress about how violent Hatred is in general, but the fact it is so violent coupled with the fact it's made by literal, honest-to-god, bona fide, bred in the bone NEO-NAZIS takes it to another level.

It could be a puzzle platformer, but the fact it's made by NEO-NAZIS is the issue. I don't think Steam, or any other reputable retailer for that matter, should financially contribute to bona-fide hate groups. Guess I'm concern trolling, though.

e: Maybe if they made a death-threat to Gabe personally he might have some objections.

You seem pretty calm, what with the bolding and the editing. Just "disappointed", I'm sure.

VideoGames posted:

Ahhh. I see now. It is just hollow bleating on a message board. OK. Carry on then
Or this. Except please don't "carry on."

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I understand you can't separate fantasy from reality, but drawings aren't real, neither are video games.

also stop talking about censorship, a term you have scarcely a sophomoric understand of.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Pirate Jet posted:

I think people shouldn't block the sale of something just because they disagree with it.

That being said I'm not going to buy this game, because it looks bad and the developers seem like assholes.

Thanks for listening to my opinion.

Apparently that is quite the controversial opinion to some. In fact it makes some people SO MAD they will buy swastika avatars for people they disagree with.

I too will probably not buy this game, because it will be trash, but If it turns out to be good, then I will buy it.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

I'm guessing the real answer is more likely that they're loving racist and desperately back peddling to justify their lovely beliefs coming out.

Probably, but so what?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

Mjolnir, a known symbol coopted by white supremacists

Sorry man, I'm really not up on my white supremacist history.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Erata posted:

Yup. We've long since passed the time where there was a WAR ON VIDEOGAMES! after Jack Thompson became irrelevant. CoD and GTA are household names. Censorship isn't really an issue in video games unless you're Australian, German, or angry that a porno game is region locked to Japan.

Trotting out the idea that there is a coordinated attack on video games again after the gamer gate stuff was genius, and the Steam removal/reversal's sealed the deal. Everyone's fears were justified. It's irreversible even if everybody stopped speculating until the launch date. They won the marketing lottery even after people fell over themselves to give them the negative publicity they wanted.

In a way I'm kind of glad that the shrieking voices who find video games "problematic" are discrediting their 'movement,' on the other-hand I'm upset that many of them are making money off of their shrieking. Hopefully their gravy train runs out soon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJmxrksPGvM

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
I guess the video was too wacky for you? I didn't make it, I just found it an accurate characterization of all video game critiques.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Endorph posted:

i too agree that all women are shrieking hysterical harpies here to ruin the fun of intellectual men, as shown in this team fortress 2 machinima

Where did i say anything about women?

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Ddraig posted:

If you saw someone with white robes and a white hood in the middle of the deep south you might have stumbled upon someone celebrating Semena Santa, but I'm guessing they're probably not actually wearing capirotes and are probably members of the KKK.

Actually I'd probably use the context of time of year and time of day, and not make bigoted assumptions about a person/group of people based on nothing but my own insecurity and ignorance. One of the cool things about being a real progressive :)

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Phil Niekro posted:

How do goons feel knowing they have become the modern equivalent of the perpetually afraid and offended christian far-right of the 70's and 80's?

The first thing you lose when you embark on a moral crusade is self-awareness.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth
The butthurt is real.

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Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

The Snark posted:

Did they wait for you to replace the other fantastically stupid forced avatar before giving you that competently executed but nevertheless terribly stupid forced avatar?

Nope. I guess they were embarrassed on their fellow SJWs behalf and so decided to change it to be more accurate. It's offensively bland now.

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