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Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer
"Sustainable" means stationary phase. We know what's next


The green revolution "credited with saving over a billion people from starvation" is just us living on borrowed time. If we don't send a DNA-based-life payload to another planet soon, we probably never will. This is our shot at producing a fruiting body. We can do it, I believe in us.

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Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Nessus posted:

While death is certain, does that exponential model graph represent 20th century agriculture or all agriculture ever

Because in the former case we "only" have a few hundred years, in the latter case we have like thousands!

It's a batch culture (i.e. no input of energy sources) of bacteria, so hopefully we can figure out a way to not follow that curve.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Killer-of-Lawyers posted:

We won't, because we're not in a closed system. At least, for the next five and a half billion years or so.

Except that we're, almost literally, eating oil.

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Baudolino posted:

Before we all succumb to despair we should remember that it is possible to change what people see as "good eating". The Chinese traditionally don`t like to eat cheese. Due to western influence this is slowly starting to change. The Potato used to be tougth of as a good for nothing pagan vegetable that good christian farmers ougth to stay away from. These days they are grown in most European countries. Back in the middle ages the wealthy nobles would cats and dogs just to distinguish themselves from the common folk. A more recent example is the consumption of horse meat in parts of Europe which used to be taboo. Peoples`s food preferences can be made to change. If people like Nigella Lawson and other celerbity chefs could start making food from "undesireable" body parts things migth start to change. Soon every foodie will start making blood sausage and cooked bull`s testicles, after that it`s just a matter of time before ordinary people start doing the same. The key is to get the " cool people" to endorse this.If this seems far fetched please remeber that we live in a world where the age old tradition of giving your financee a big fat diomand was created from thin air by deBeers marketing department in the 20`s. The norms and expectations of the general public can be molded like silly putty if you have the rigth tools. It`s 100% possible to make blood sausage and crickes the next cool thing. So let`s not give up yet folks.

We made "whole grain" mean healthier, now we need to do the same for "whole animal" :D

Epitope
Nov 27, 2006

Grimey Drawer

Xipe Totec posted:

so there are no systemic problems with the resilient global food system, we just need to sprinkle a some reforms and the power of good intentions will ensure billions get sovereign access to food without destroying the planet?

If you've got an idea, spit it out.

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