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ninjaiguana posted:Yeah, I just finished watching his most recent AE Phase I video. I kind of prefer to skew away from tanks that want gold spam to work well, so I'm now thinking maybe the Char is the way forward. 4 second intraclip is fine when I've been using Italian TDs with their 7 second intraclip XD I'm pretty sure you won't regret it, and the AE Phase 1 will be there if you want to pick it up later.
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The long reload on the Char is actually good because it lets you aim each shot so you don't have to waste equipment slots improving your aiming speed. It also teaches you to double-tap and get back into cover, not just mag dump like a moron.
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Char is such a good tank. Wish I had something more to say about it, but that's about it. Just a really solid medium auto loader. Today has been something else: 
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Honestly, I'd say on the EU servers the game is becoming unplayable. The players these days are so loving stupid and useless that it's hard to put to words. I'm talking "four mediums sitting in a bush, not firing a single shot at the five enemies spotted in open ground, because they're all sniping at enemies halfway across the map" awful. It's comically bad, and we're at a point where bots would LITERALLY be an upgrade over many of these absolute weapons. I get that not everyone is going to be a Skill4ltu level god at the game, but I don't understand how actual functional human beings can be this bad. E: Great game, WG. I had 20/25 on my damage enemy tanks daily before this game.  I still have 20/25 on my daily. A++ programming. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Apr 14, 2024 |
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The game is honestly just very hard for an average player, I spend more time on learning the game than most casuals would and I'm still pretty horrible, and you're really at the mercy of chance if you're not pulling down at least 2k+ WN8 average. Even the very best players still only pull their winrate up to around 60% in solo play and that's the hardest carrying you are ever going to get. And this isn't new: it's been like this for a decade, you're just getting more burned out on it as time goes by.
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Char Mle is such a weird and fun tank  . People never expect 1.2k burst damage from a light tank.
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Vando posted:And this isn't new: it's been like this for a decade, you're just getting more burned out on it as time goes by. Nah. 15-1s are far, far more frequent than they ever used to be, and I'm pretty sure the overall match length has dropped a lot. Sure, that's in part due to tanks becoming better, faster etc, but you also have just so many players who are ungodly awful and just get insta-deleted so games are 0-5 in a minute. E: and yeah, like I said, not everyone is going to be good at this game, but so many people are so loving awful at it that I just can't understand it. Yes, there's going to be the occasional player who seriously has some medical condition or something, and that's fine, I'm not talking about them. Can't help that. But "the game's hard for the average player" doesn't explain poo poo like someone not reacting at all to an enemy shooting them repeatedly in the rear end, or a cluster of people just not shooting at targets in front of them despite multiple people hammering the "requesting fire at X" button. And that's the level half of the players seem to be these days. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 16:26 on Apr 14, 2024 |
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Apr 14, 2024 16:17
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Steamrolls are way more frequent, definitely. Powercreep is one hell of a disease.
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Steamrolls never feel good. Yeah, winning is cool and all but when you have 2 279es push an entire flank before you even get to the front, it is not fun. Like everyone else is saying, it feels like they have been happening a lot recently.
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15-1 is new (well, if 3+ years is still new) but that's because of the new tanks, not because people have gotten worse at the game.Shaman Tank Spec posted:But "the game's hard for the average player" doesn't explain poo poo like someone not reacting at all to an enemy shooting them repeatedly in the rear end, or a cluster of people just not shooting at targets in front of them despite multiple people hammering the "requesting fire at X" button. And that's the level half of the players seem to be these days. Most players do not have the spatial awareness to respond to anything that they're not currently tunnelled on, that's not unique to tanks but the game punishes it extremely hard, both if you die at that moment and in keeping you permanently disadvantaged from those lost HP. I think the best/simplest fix for the current state of the game would be to make a vanilla 7v7 mode with skill based matchmaking. At least then you're probably not being fully exposed to people who can barely drive around without blundering under the enemy guns. Vando fucked around with this message at 16:43 on Apr 14, 2024 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:Honestly, I'd say on the EU servers the game is becoming unplayable. I'm seeing some equally insane poo poo on EU servers. Had a game on Glacier with half our heavies sitting in a bush 'sniping'. Had a game on Pilsen where our Vk 100.01 - our highest tier heavy - decided to try and sneak down the 0 line. He ended the game bottom of the team with 0 damage. There's so many total fuckwits on EU I just can't even believe it. Also, I've now played the Char Futur 4 and it loving rules. It's such a comfortable tank to play! EDIT: Rather than double post, a question about equipment. Specifically, Vents. Under what circumstances do people consider Vents a worthwhile equip, if ever? Obviously rammer and stabilizer are no brainers 99% of the time, that goes without saying; for me Vents only tends to come in to the conversation when one of those isn't available. For me I use Vents; - On autoloaders, who can't fit a rammer - On mediums who cannot fit a stabilizer I am wondering if something like a turbo might just be better even in these circumstances though. Vents is such a small buff. Thoughts? ninjaiguana fucked around with this message at 09:58 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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ninjaiguana posted:I'm seeing some equally insane poo poo on EU servers. Had a game on Glacier with half our heavies sitting in a bush 'sniping'. Had a game on Pilsen where our Vk 100.01 - our highest tier heavy - decided to try and sneak down the 0 line. He ended the game bottom of the team with 0 damage. There's so many total fuckwits on EU I just can't even believe it. Yep. It's at a point where the only tanks that are remotely fun to play anymore are the ones that can kinda ignore the rest of the team and make my own fun. Like the French wheelies, where I can at least zoom around the enemies shooting them in the rear end while my team loses 1-15 in three minutes. Trying to play the low tier Polish TDs is pure suffering, because they have next to no viewrange, so they can't spot for themselves, they have next to no armour and low HP so once you get spotted you die in two hits. If you ever want to platoon up, hit me up, this is me: https://worldoftanks.eu/en/community/accounts/500535591-soralapio/ quote:EDIT: Rather than double post, a question about equipment. Specifically, Vents. Under what circumstances do people consider Vents a worthwhile equip, if ever? Obviously rammer and stabilizer are no brainers 99% of the time, that goes without saying; for me Vents only tends to come in to the conversation when one of those isn't available. You have just opened a huge can of worms. The topic of "when Vents" is something people on Reddit fight about literally every day. Your logic sounds solid, and it's pretty close to how I use vents these days. I used to have them on every tank, because they make everything a little bit better. But after Equipment 2.0 we have so much more situational equipment, combined with the Field Modification system, that instead of just making many things a bit better, it's often better to either paper over the tank's weaknesses, or improve their strong points. Like I've been playing a lot of assault style TDs recently, and turbo + hardening is godlike on them. For the Char I'd probably take vents, vertical stabilizer and improved aiming. When you get the second loadout through Field Mods, maybe a vents + aiming + optics would be solid for maps where you don't have lights and can make full use of your concealment and view range to spot.
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I never got the hate for vents, keeping in mind they boost the perks too. Try suggesting to a streamer to drop BIA or rations you gonna get laughed out of chat, but equipping vents noo that's Quickybaby levels of oldschool. I guess the best solution is to play only autoloaders which can't use stupid rammers anyway. Talk about a piece of equip that shouldn't even exist 
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Apr 15, 2024 12:35
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The vent hate is because 90% of the time there is a better specialised option compared to a little bit of a bonus to everything. The endless discussion is because a ton of people think it's still 2014 when you put vents on everything. It's very easy to check which equip combo is best ingame nowadays, there is only going to be one config with best performance for a given stat, the only debate is which stat are you planning to minmax into the ground. Vents are bad for minmaxing so you will pretty much only use them when you need every possible stacking bonus to one stat you can get, no matter how small. Vando fucked around with this message at 13:09 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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As a former vents enjoyer, I've been straying away from it recently. Not because I think it is bad, but I've realized that other pieces of equipment are just better. With that being said, I still do use vents on a bunch of tanks.
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Use vents instead of a rammer on autoloaders, instead of vert stab on low tier tanks that can't use them, and instead of optics when your view range will still be above 445 m.
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McGavin posted:instead of optics when your view range will still be above 445 m. This might be a case of me still being trapped in 2014 but doesn't view range above 445 still count against enemy camo value?
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Yeah, but unless you are running a vision setup with a CVS and 500 m view range there isn't much functional difference between 445 m and 475 m. Also, most of the time you're in a lane map with less than 100 m between you and the enemy where vents gives more benefit.
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The difference is all other things being equal you will be spotting the enemy first if you outrange them unless you're literally only going to be driving around corners the entire time, in which case vision is irrelevant anyway and you'd be using a pure gun setup. Oh no now we're doing vents arguments in this thread, you see how easy this is?
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Unless you're a light tank or a view range specced medium, view range doesn't really matter past 445 m. For other tanks, the only time view range really matters is when you're trying to push into defending enemies on an open map. If the enemy is on defense and they're smart, they're probably stuck comfortably in a bush that they'll back out of to fire, so you aren't going to spot them until you get close. If they're dumb and in the open, then you'll spot them at the maximum distance.
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If you're a medium rolling up on an enemy medium in open terrain (most likely scenario for wanting optics at all) you still want the highest viewrange number possible in order to spot the enemy before they spot you so you can have first shot advantage. I know in your scenario its assumed you will just be spotting them at max viewrange but my understanding (again, may have changed) is that mediums have enough camo that it does become a factor. It's not a massive deal and you mostly wouldn't want to tune a full setup around it but it's still a more important factor than any bonus vents gives you.
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Assuming you've got a 5-skill crew, and are running food and the right field mods, the bonus vents constantly adds to your accuracy is more important than the bonus to view range from optics. That is the reason why everyone recommends vents for mediums in their equipment setups on Skill's page. Also, the game favours defenders so much that you should just assume that you're going to eat that first shot 100% of the time and plan accordingly.
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Vents, Optics, Rammer.
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ZogrimAteMyHamster posted:Vents, Optics, Rammer. The worst of both worlds.
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*extremely 2015 voice* what else am I gonna fit, spall liner?
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Picked this game up after like 8 years and I have several questions. Are personal reserves just a way to get absoultely raked by the MM for an hour?
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No, you get absolutely raked by MM regardless.
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McGavin posted:No, you get absolutely raked by MM regardless.  Also, 100% true. Edit: First game today I got penned in the rear end by a T49 for 1k damage.
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I find gun RNG to be incredibly annoying. Even moreso than the steamrolling. You just sit and aim until 95% of the circle is full of a target and the shot will still bend into the dirt. what a frustrating game.
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Welcome to Onslaught where this motherfucker is your teammate. He spent the game camping in A1 and apparently did not get ONE hit in his loving autoloader. And you'll never escape Iron because even if you place top every game, you need to win a lot more than you're losing or you'll be permanently stuck grinding in place for pitiful gains. And you will not win a lot because half of your team is full of motherfuckers like this. E: The 60tp is absolutely fantastic for Onslaught though. Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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Even though T6 premiums are screwed trying to fight the new T8s as the top tier, the Rudy is back on sale until the 23rd.
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US Foreign Policy posted:
Kamakazi
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US Foreign Policy posted:
How the hell?!
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:How the hell?! I would like to remind everyone this is a safe space  In that particular game, I got the kamikaze - and survived - by ramming the Crusader SP. I then got 43 capture points If you havent played the Fv304 you're sleeping on the best game within a game ever. It exists to spite all rules and assumptions about what an SPG is -My arc can go near vertical, and can kill an open top TD just as well as I can set fire to a brawler -10.55sec reload, 45 shells, UK gun. My dispersion value is just a lie; I can land snap shots surprisingly often. I can track lock brawlers which is sexually gratifying -the closer I am the better. If I can get my flight time under 1sec, my shots are almost impossible to dodge. At that range I can also sufficiently target commander cupola's on heavies -0.1sec sound detection time means I can waste enemy SPG time like no other. Even if they are out of my CB range, it's all but impossible to land a hit on me from above. Baiting an M44 to waste the game chasing me is also Deeply Satisfying -Faster than even a good deal of lights at tier. -Smaller than most mediums at tier, who I can fully hide behind and use as a firing position -The maps just don't seem like they were made with Fv304's in mind. I can hit enemies behind full cover -The default reaction to someone being targeted by an SPG is to button up with cover and wait. I can break an advance or peel off TD's by just shooting near them -The amount of stupid decisions I can bait people into goes beyond description. If I let myself get spotted, people's brains will just shut off in a frantic attempt to chase me down.
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gently caress arty. I am going to get that FV later.
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so these silly turtles only work properly if you put them in as a commander in seperate tanks? just seems wrong
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US Foreign Policy posted:If you havent played the Fv304 you're sleeping on the best game within a game ever. It exists to spite all rules and assumptions about what an SPG is I think I have it unlocked, but I have never played it, I don't think. I guess I'll have to give it a chance! E: apparently I have in fact unlocked the T7 British clicker, so I guess I have in fact played it. Who knew! Basscop posted:so these silly turtles only work properly if you put them in as a commander in seperate tanks? There's that famous WG eye for detail. They could've made the Turtles a full voiced crew like the witches, but I guess that would've taken effort. Splinter doesn't even have a unique voice! Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 11:16 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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Shaman Tank Spec posted:I think I have it unlocked, but I have never played it, I don't think. I guess I'll have to give it a chance! Play close support for brawlers. You can absolutely hump most cover and still have a firing angle, and exist in an impossible-to-CB pocket. Prepare for about 150dmg per hit, but if you can blow tracks off a heavy you can just take your time chewing them up. Probably the biggest difference of SPG play is simply Never Stop Firing. Your aim time is less than your reload, and you benefit from UK dispersion, so just stay on station and hold down M1. Just putting out a shell every 10 seconds will absolutely produce results.
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I swear to god the loving absolute utter idiots that play this game. An E25 just drove into our base on El-Halluf. he was spotted the whole loving way, in clear sight of the six TDs on our team. NONE OF THEM fired at him, so he just walked on in and started machine gunning people in the rear end. E: this isn't "the game's difficult for average players", this is "how the gently caress are these people able to function daily without getting run over the second they leave their house". E2: Next game, I was able to sit in a bush in my T6 Chinese tank destroyer, spotting half the enemy team and shooting them. I got spotted several times, but realized that nobody was shooting back. Is this just a new wave of poo poo bots or are people THIS BAD? Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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