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Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Burt posted:

Grosstractor and T-34-85M. Yes or no?

I think the consensus on the Gross is no(ooooo).

And Rossmum's effortpost on the 34-85M in the previous thread (summary: no).

quote:

A little more on the T-34-85M since I really do feel bad about just writing a tank off as poo poo, even if I think it is. In the interests of full disclosure I have only played a handful of games in it, but I couldn't stand it enough to play more.

In T-34-85M's favour:

Gunnery
- DPM advantage of 48HP/min
- 0.77s faster reload resulting in 1.6RPM advantage
- 12 extra shells carried
- Marginally better turret bloom
- Better bloom on full power turret traverse
- 3 degrees more elevation (fires better uphill)

Mobility
- 2 deg/s hull traverse advantage
- lol that's it

Survivability
- 30mm additional frontal armour
- 5mm additional rear armour (this barely matters)

Against T-34-85M:

Gunnery
- 18mm lower pen on AP (fairly significant at this tier; 144 is sufficient to fight many tier 8s, 126 is not)
- 20HP less alpha strike
- 158m/s slower shell velocity factors into lower pen and complicates leading at range
- 0.05 worse standing accuracy, for a quite poor 0.4
- 0.2s worse aim time, 2.4 is pretty piss poor for a high RoF gun
- Marginally worse track bloom on both movement and traverse (as much worse as turret bloom is better)
- Significantly worse bloom when tank is moving or turning at full speed

Mobility
- 100 less horsepower for a 2.32hp/t disadvantage
- 1km/h slower in forward speed - basically irrelevant due to being so close, but gently caress it, I'll list it just so you shitlers don't call me out on it later
- Worse terrain resistance across the board, slightly worse on hard terrain, significantly worse on both other types - and the T-34-85 already had pretty nasty resistance

Survivability
- 10m less view range
- Rather significantly worse camo across the board
- Longer target thanks to the big stupid engine deck overhang, all of which is a hitbox
- Significantly (i.e. nearly half) less hitpoints for engine, and worse fire resistance

So yeah, the only worthwhile advantage it has is the additional armour, which is worthless without pref MM and would be questionable even then. Incremental bonus to DPM is worthless as lower pen and worse gun handling means less chance to apply said DPM. Tank is overall actually more vulnerable in spite of its main selling point, the armour, and is much less likely to either win a fight or escape than the less sluggish and better-penning T-34-85.

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Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Rammer, bino's, whatever worked pretty well on the tiger for me. Being able to spot your own targets when you want is pretty useful.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

If you missed the arty nerf, yeah it's better. The new padding tank is the bulldog, at least wn8-wise.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Lord of Garbagemen posted:

you know they hit lights by changing the expected value and wn8 calculations like a month ago, if you want to stat pad just find a tank that is obscure and has a low expected value.

For example a T-34 (russian tier 5), 1k damage and 1.5 kills is ~3500 wn8.

Expected damage for the lights is still pretty low, it was raised by about 200 at the most. I haven't read about changed wn calculations for lights. That might change things. Do you have a link for that?

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

You'll catch on. It took a while but even I know the tanks, and I don't give a poo poo about irl tanks and have a lovely memory. Same for maps, just try to remember what tanks / armour / guns / map positions hosed you and you'll do better every time.

E: also look tanks up every now and then. Armour viewer, the wiki, that sort of thing.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

demonR6 posted:

HAHAHHAHAHA

- On EU servers WG is not going to publish list of prohibited mods, so you can use them and not be banned. WG leave decision of using them or not using them to your conscience.

Brilliant!

Alrighty. Any good prohbited mods out there? I onlynow the weird lasers one but that's not very pretty.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

I like the KV-220 more. Lets embrace our diversity.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

I am shocked the tentacle porn avatar poster, known ingame as MargaretThatcherFuta, is not a reliable source of WOT news.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

The E4 seems nice and I want one. I've seen Sirfoch (streamer) play it like a squishy heavy with a ridiculous gun and it works like a charm. I have no idea about CW-usefulness though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cvvwij7H8jU

Refried Noodle fucked around with this message at 04:04 on Jan 14, 2015

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Guys I think we've found a new comet!

Quick question to get things started: can it carry??

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Russian mediums are pretty overrated for pub matches.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Start broadcasting that the first five players have already 'won,' and at this point they're just gunning to be ten random entries in a larger pool, and the list of tanks available to said winners will not be the same list that the "Top 5" are getting. Sure, this won't stop them from playing like loving imbeciles (or saying that you're lying because I'd fathom only about 1% of the community actually ever reads anything on the forums that doesn't pertain to free gold), but the message needs to be boosted that the 'free Type 59/ubertank of your choice' boat has sailed.

Oh, and the winners? From first to fifth: 58.82%, 61.33%, 56.75%, 56.42%, 56.68%. Not a tomato amongst them.

Update 1/16/2015:

1st Place: ChuckN0rris

2nd-5th Place: CanadianGuitar, T3hIce, Johnson753, Zequill

I honestly hope the Type 59G is on that list simply because it would make the entire game go insane.

That is ridiculously fast, holy poo poo. I was expecting a couple weeks or something.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Nordick posted:

On another note, I installed a gun sound mod included in Aslain's pack that replaces the firing sounds with ones ripped from War Thunder tanks. It's pretty good, I think I'll be using it for the time being.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ85XvJXf1E

My life is complete with a sound mod where someone just goes brrrrm pew boom.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

mmkay posted:

Also I think EU Wargaming basically said gently caress it, doesn't have a list of banned mods and instead tells the players to ~Use their conscience~.

I did see one of them tell a streamer not to use certain mods because they were "considered cheating". It was enemy HP bars and a regular zoom out mod by the way.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Yeah it says "claim your reward" when you finish the last mission. No need to do so right away.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Can one of you nerds just make a boat thread.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

The tanks thread always leaks some autism every couple of pages. I figured noone even reported that poo poo anymore.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

The Pak 40 is still occasionally fun. I just keep my french TD crew permanently in there.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

WitchFetish posted:



Eh, it looks good, at least

That is sexy as hell.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

We got the "do 40% of all damage" TD mission as tier sixes in a tier 8 battle. In a two man platoon.

Pubbies are so bad.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

CitizenKain posted:

Put a camo net on there in place of the vents. The ISU gets surprisingly good camo for being a large box, and the longer you can remain unspotted the better.

I run rammer/camnet/bino's because i'm a filthy camper. As is the ISU.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

That distinction goes to UE 57 (stationary), the ELC (moving) or the E25 (firing). If this site is correct anyway.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Prav posted:

That reminds me, the motion physics update is supposed to do away with passability and replace it with (if I got it right) a pure % modifier on engine power delivered to the transmission. For some reason I find this really funny.

*Right-clicks and checks stats* "This tank has a 1200 HP engine" *hidden stat cuts that in half, tank is actually slow as hell*

Still it's not like that's fundamentally different from the current situation. Just a little more on the nose.

Yeah that's even more retarded. If there's no terrain differentation why not just show actual HP in game?

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

At low tiers you finish your tank way before your crew hits 100%. Retraining for the next tank cuts away their exp. You would be fine just getting a new (75% if you can afford the credits) crew for each next tank.

Crew retraining is more for tier five or six and up. Unless you spend a lot of time in some low tier tank you like and get a monster crew, obviously.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Don't forget the E75 and VKb. Maybe the KV-4 or t-32 as well, i'm not sure.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Mesadoram posted:

Ah huh. To the surprise of no one.

Seems much more reasonable? Only nerfing regular ammo pen was weird.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Infected posted:

That is actually all. Too bad that WG is currently suffering from strokes and is dutifully implementing it's "no-nerfs for premiums" policy.

Don't touch my goddamn fifty euro pixel tank. On that note, it's 50% off on tier five prems so I got a t14 and su-85i. Both seem alright but not amazing.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Hello thread

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012



The t71 is so good it's silly. Can't remember ever getting over 2k base exp before.

Replay

Refried Noodle fucked around with this message at 11:29 on Mar 22, 2015

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Just curious, is there any data on the number of people playing this game over time? Like, has the userbase declined?

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

TracerM17 posted:

I'm bad at light tanks, but I do enjoy them. I notice most of the high level game play with them is sitting in the middle to back of the map waiting until the end when they can clean up a bunch of 10% heavies and unprotected arties. Walker Bulldogs seem to be the king of this tactic.

Maybe that is how they should be played? I don't really know. I just do stupid poo poo in them. Every now and again it works out and I have a blast.

I do that pretty much. Spot and/or snipe early, then pray you're not 14-0 behind and go murder stuff.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Yeah, I can totally relate to this clan chat.

On EU we have a comparable schism between the true goons in glorious 2PAC and Princess Sexton et al in the brotherhood of GOKU.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Also can you recommend a good green curry recipe?

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

The Southern Dandy posted:

Do you like trashy stuff on the internet? I like trashy stuff on the internet. From a "friend" of a friend, and I thought I got angry:

gently caress the Catholic Church. And yes, I was indoctrinated before I was able to make any informed decision as a child into Catholicism. As an adult male I have had sex with THREE Catholic priests, only one of whom was honest about it, after the fact. The Papacy is organized crime exemplified. Mother Teresa is responsible for more AIDS deaths in Africa than all the unprotected gay sex that has ever happened in all the gay bars in New Orleans combined. If you are Catholic and this offends you, get off my page. I don't need any "friends" who buy into the hypocrisy of the One True Church's bullshit and propaganda. gently caress the church and gently caress their sheeple. ALL religion is poison, and if you are buying into the crap about the softer, gentler pope, you are an idiot and know nothing about Catholicism. Again, not up for a discussion about this, so be forewarned. Offended? Get off my page.

Happy delusional belief day to all of my religious friends of whatever mythical subscription you rely on to create an external locus of control over your lives and by which you create a moral context for your life based on others' beliefs and traditions as opposed to intrinsically searching for the beauty of existence and the desire to do good just for the sake of doing good. I can not respect your indefensible beliefs, but if you are on my friends list, I respect you, otherwise you would not be reading this message. I love you in spite of your religion, as you love me in spite of my reliance on science, empiricism, and my whole hearted devotion to heathenism, debauchery, and my belief that religion has done far more damage than good throughout history. As one of my friend's grammys said, "If two people were just alike, one of them would be unnecessary."

I liked the part about the tanks

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

If you like the Tiger 2, you'll love the E-75.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Maybe NA is different, but on EU bad players don't have stats activated. I'm ok with someone focusing me if I'm doing the same thing back.

Well except arty obvs

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

I've been playing the Pak40 trying to get that map, but no dice. With bino's obviously.

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Why

ANd why the anime

e: gonna assume everything is irony

Refried Noodle fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Apr 23, 2015

Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

Gapey Joe Stalin posted:

Apparently a WG rep on the polish forum confirmed that the BiA on the Berlin tank crews is a O skill by the way. So functions like the female crews.

That the 0 skills are bugged at the moment is another matter entirely.

HOw are they bugged tell me.,

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Refried Noodle
Feb 23, 2012

That's lovely.

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