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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

While it's cool, I think if you're really wanting people to take biotechnology seriously, you need a proper reason for it to be surgically implanted. There are a lot of technological conveniences nowadays but I don't yet feel it necessary to store them inside my body.

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communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
but how will you disrupt..... stuff???

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009
disrupting the door-opening experience paradigm with this wet-ware biochip

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

ReV VAdAUL posted:

Also just in case it hasn't been discussed Bitter Lake on IPlayer is great and you should all watch it.

I'm an hour in and it's very enjoyable so far. Though it did get annoying with the first ten minutes of predictable Adam Curtis tropes.

*shot of people dancing cutting to a shot of dead bodies*

*long shot of foreign people doing some mundane task in complete silence, with no narration or explanation or even relevance except the presence of a western soldier in the frame*

"This is a story about a group of politicians who thought they were going to make the world a better place. But what they didn't know was, despite their best intentions, they were all Hitler"


Anyway I can't wait to watch the rest

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Oberleutnant posted:

disrupting the door-opening experience paradigm with this wet-ware biochip

Oh god I can imagine the lovely spiel already.

Bodytech? What the gently caress will they call it?

Rolled Cabbage
Sep 3, 2006

Disinterested posted:

Worrying. I have one of these stupid degrees and I'm yet to witness it give me an advantage, but then again I don't work in a field where I can try to take advantage of people in that way.

Condolences and congratulations on working for non-idiots.

Disinterested
Jun 29, 2011

You look like you're still raking it in. Still killing 'em?

Rolled Cabbage posted:

congratulations on working for non-idiots.

Let's not go too far.

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Big support for staying in the EU from Yougov.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

OwlFancier posted:

While it's cool, I think if you're really wanting people to take biotechnology seriously, you need a proper reason for it to be surgically implanted. There are a lot of technological conveniences nowadays but I don't yet feel it necessary to store them inside my body.

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Does anyone remember what page Glasgow burger chat was on? I may be down tomorrow.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Does anyone remember what page Glasgow burger chat was on? I may be down tomorrow.

Well, I mean, I would hope that they'd just deactivate that particular chip from the security system. I still have my uni ID with its RFID chip in it...

Depends on what they're hoping to stick into you I guess.

DrWrestling69
Feb 4, 2008

Tracyanne...

Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Does anyone remember what page Glasgow burger chat was on? I may be down tomorrow.

Meat bar,burger meats bun or stravaigin.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

they deactivate it and you get shot up with a new one at your new job.
Great news for the dystopian future of all work being temporary and unskilled! Within a year of entering the workforce most people will be completely encrusted with sub-dermal implants, looking like studded dildos from head to toe.

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Does anyone remember what page Glasgow burger chat was on? I may be down tomorrow.

http://jamesvsburger.com/

tl;dr: Meathammer @ Nice N Sleazy's on Sauchiehall street.

Zveroboy
Apr 17, 2007

If you take those sheep again I will bury this fucking axe in your skull.

Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Does anyone remember what page Glasgow burger chat was on? I may be down tomorrow.

As was passed down to me:

Go to Bread Meat Bread on St. Vincent Street.

Get the one called The Wolf of St. Vincent Street. If you're going with someone else, share a bowl of the poutine, if you're on your own the sweet potato fries looked awesome.

Get a jug of beer because why not.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

twoot posted:

tl;dr: Meathammer @ Nice N Sleazy's on Sauchiehall street.

Are you recommending burger joints or brothels?

twoot
Oct 29, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

Are you recommending burger joints or brothels?

Glasgow is at peak-burger and the names are becoming quite unique.

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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KKKlean Energy posted:

I'm an hour in and it's very enjoyable so far. Though it did get annoying with the first ten minutes of predictable Adam Curtis tropes.

*shot of people dancing cutting to a shot of dead bodies*

*long shot of foreign people doing some mundane task in complete silence, with no narration or explanation or even relevance except the presence of a western soldier in the frame*

"This is a story about a group of politicians who thought they were going to make the world a better place. But what they didn't know was, despite their best intentions, they were all Hitler"


Anyway I can't wait to watch the rest

Among my friends, the phrase "but in actual fact" is a shorthand for bringing up Curtis.

Mr Cuddles
Jan 29, 2010

Do not believe in anything simply because you have heard it. Do not believe in anything simply because it is spoken and rumored by many. Do not believe in anything because it is found written in your religious books. Do not believe in anything merely on the authority of your teachers and elders.

OwlFancier posted:

While it's cool, I think if you're really wanting people to take biotechnology seriously, you need a proper reason for it to be surgically implanted. There are a lot of technological conveniences nowadays but I don't yet feel it necessary to store them inside my body.

No kidding the chip under the skin thing forms the basis for a lot of conspiracy theories regarding the anti-christ and the "number of the beast" section of the book of revelations among christians and "new world order" conspiracy theorists alike. I grew up in a very religious family and they all believed 100% that this was one of the signs of end times. It used to be bar codes and now it's chips under the skin.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Jedit posted:

I'm more concerned about what they do to reclaim your chip when you quit.

Pretend I found an image of the career chip device from Futurama and put it here.





So when are we getting suicide booths?

thehustler
Apr 17, 2004

I am very curious about this little crescendo

josh04 posted:

Among my friends, the phrase "but in actual fact" is a shorthand for bringing up Curtis.

"But this was a fantasy."

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

While it's cool, I think if you're really wanting people to take biotechnology seriously, you need a proper reason for it to be surgically implanted. There are a lot of technological conveniences nowadays but I don't yet feel it necessary to store them inside my body.
Yeah, I don't see what that's doing that couldn't be done with a ring or something. Other than generating controversy and publicity.

sebzilla posted:

So when are we getting suicide booths?
Right to die has passed its second reading in Lords, but it will only be for people who have less than 6 months left anyway.
I don't think you'll be able to choose your preferred method either.

Jack the Lad
Jan 20, 2009

Feed the Pubs

Police told to review nearly 2,000 cases of alleged corruption



Young workers hit hardest by wages slump of post-crash Britain



Westminster council rejects Qatari royal family’s plans for £200m palace

quote:

In a rare act of resistance against the tide of Qatari petro-dollars that has swept through London’s property market, a planning officer at Westminster city council, Matthew Rees, has said the family’s plans to create a British palace worth an estimated £200m will be refused.

The Qatari royals had hoped to knock together two Grade I-listed mansions in Regent’s Park to create a lavish palace with 17 bedrooms, 14 lounges, four dining rooms, a swimming pool, a cigar lounge, a cinema and a juice bar.

The Qataris’ agents had tried to head off the problem by offering the council £850,000 in cash towards its affordable housing fund. Dimoldenberg pointed out that the Qataris’ offer would only buy one two-bedroom apartment in that part of the city.

ReV VAdAUL
Oct 3, 2004

I'm WILD about
WILDMAN

thehustler posted:

"But this was a fantasy."

:( This would be a lot funnier if Curtis wasn't using these phrases correctly.

The latter half of Bitter Lake covers how the US/UK invasion of Afghanistan was a duplicate of the Soviet invasion down to the fantasy their intervention would make Afghanistan into a model of their chosen ideology. They were only 20 years apart and the exact same fantasy took hold.

This London Review of Books article about Afghanistan from last month serves as a good companion to the documentary. Especially regarding the fantasy that there was a singular enemy called The Taliban being faced in Afghanistan.

One of the more minor benefits of world leaders being less poo poo would be allowing Curtis to be less cliche. He is at least a bit better on his BBC blog: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/adamcurtis he uses his access to the BBC archives to draw some unique insights.

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31056823

BoJo the Clown posted:

...

According to the newspaper, Mr Johnson said: "If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn.

"They are tortured. They will be very badly adjusted in their relations with women, and that is a symptom of their feeling of being failures and that the world is against them.
...

Almost like he's talking about himself for a moment.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

KKKlean Energy posted:

predictable Adam Curtis tropes.

You forgot the repeated use of that Nine Inch Nails track from the Natural Born Killers soundtrack.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

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Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Oberleutnant posted:

Not UK but was on the BBC and interesting:

Want to gain entry to your office, get on a bus, or perhaps buy a sandwich? At Epicenter, a new hi-tech office block in Sweden, they are trying a different approach - a chip under the skin.

:jerkbag:

But their argument/justification, at least, is that it's an experiment so that people can see first-hand what the technology is like and does, to raise awareness about a potential future in which governments and large corps want people chipped.
Kevin Warwick, who is Britain's Chief Scientific Wanker, already did this like a decade ago. He implanted some RF transponder in his arm and had a door that was programmed to open when he came near it.

Cue lots of headlines about "DOCTOR CYBORG" and "THE SINGULARITY IS NEAR"

Nice to see the same wankery coming round again.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

quote:

Mr Johnson said: "If you look at all the psychological profiling about bombers, they typically will look at porn.
That narrows it down to, what, 91% of men and two thirds of women?

quote:

They are not making it with girls and so they turn to other forms of spiritual comfort - which of course is no comfort.
"There is no form of spiritual comfort that can replace girls." Someone forward this to Pope Frank and the Dalai Lama.

quote:

We are living in a world where there are brand-new threats in the 21st century...with these enormous terrorist attacks and what is going on with IS in Syria and Brits going there.
Terrorism, religious violence, and British people filibustering around the world where they have no business: brand new 21st century threats.

PlantHead
Jan 2, 2004

How were they going to get away with bashing 2 Grade I listed buildings together anyway, you can't even paint them without getting permission, let alone knocking down walls and putting in a swimming pool.

I liked this quote

quote:

Paul Dimoldenberg, leader of the Labour group at the Conservative-controlled authority, said: “The stories about the mega-rich parking their money in Westminster have got to the point where even Westminster council is embarrassed at what is going on.
Even the council are embarrassed about how they are cashing in, that is how bad it has gotten.

I genuinely think that there should be a limit or outright ban on the number of houses that can be bought by foreign nationals. Plenty of countries have laws that limit the number of holiday homes that can be bought and ensure a level of housing for the people local in the area, it would be a good idea in London for sure......although that, I suspect, would stop people making so much profit on their homes so there is no chance of it happening.

Edit: punctuation and general language issues

PlantHead fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Jan 30, 2015

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

OwlFancier posted:

I wish I could remember the name of that place that got demolished, I think it was in Hong Kong, but it was basically like a solid block of debris, old high rises, and humanity, all interconnected and built into itself.

They tore it down a while ago. But it's one hell of a form of people-storage.
As others have said, the Walled City.

The thing to remember about Hong Kong is that most of the population live in high density social housing. It's a direct consequence of the hundreds of thousands of people (or more, no-one really knows for sure) who fled across the border when the Cultural Revolution and the Great Leap Forward were in full flow. The government had all these refugees literally living on hillsides and so they started a crash program of building high rise blocks to put them all in. The HK government is one of the world's biggest landlords even today, which is kind of ironic given its reputation as a hyper-capitalist paradise. Nearly half the population live in council houses.

The high density living works really well too. GDP per capita is basically the same as the UK but public transport is dirt cheap and extremely plentiful, more so even than in London. Buses are run on the metro system (ie every x minutes) because they're so common that a timetable would be pointless. We lived there for 13 years and never needed a car. It also means that you can keep vast tracts of land as country parks (40% of Hong Kong's land area is country park and only a quarter is actually built on). Everyone has things like libraries and swimming pools and sports centres close by because the high density makes it viable to provide those things.

"High rise" doesn't have to mean "slummy badly built apartment blocks", and most of the stuff that's been built there since the refugee crisis eased is perfectly liveable. And you get big, big benefits from the high density.

It was certainly more fun than living in sprawling outer-London suburbia or deep rural England, both of which I've also done.

Zephro fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Jan 30, 2015

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guavanaut posted:

That narrows it down to, what, 91% of men and two thirds of women?
Countdown to those voluntary porn filters becoming compulsory in 3, 2, 1...

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Guavanaut posted:

That narrows it down to, what, 91% of men and two thirds of women?

It narrows it down to anyone they want to look at. It seems Tory party members are unlikely to be bombers, though - after all, they don't like looking at pictures of naked adult women.

Gyro Zeppeli
Jul 19, 2012

sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

DesperateDan posted:

You forgot the repeated use of that Nine Inch Nails track from the Natural Born Killers soundtrack.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN6sfJ1qFQg

Now it's been pointed out, you'll all notice this track being used EVERYWHERE.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Zephro posted:

Countdown to those voluntary porn filters becoming compulsory in 3, 2, 1...

I thought those were becoming the default last October or something? Or did that not happen?

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
gimme my dystopian microchip

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

OwlFancier posted:

I thought those were becoming the default last October or something? Or did that not happen?
Default-on, yes, but not compulsory.

Malcolm XML
Aug 8, 2009

I always knew it would end like this.

Hobo posted:

Yeah, seriously, there's places other than London and Oxbridge doing tech.

If you want to take a 50% pay cut sure there's a ton of places.

Jack the Lad
Jan 20, 2009

Feed the Pubs

Zephro posted:

Default-on, yes, but not compulsory.

Go with Andrews & Arnold. Smugness aside, I like their approach:

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Jack the Lad posted:

Go with Andrews & Arnold. Smugness aside, I like their approach:


Yeah, it's only the big four. I'm forced to get internet (thanks to the 4.6km of lovely old copper that separates me from my cabinet) from a tiny long-range wireless ISP that offers 30 megabits down but a 60GB monthly data cap. One of the few upsides is that they don't do censorship of any sort.

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Renaissance Robot
Oct 10, 2010

Bite my furry metal ass

Oberleutnant posted:

Not UK but was on the BBC and interesting:

If it's the size of a grain of rice they could easily embed it in a ring, which would be almost as difficult to lose and unobtrusive whilst being a) cooler and b) less painful.

And let's be honest who wouldn't want to get through a door by fist-bumping the lock with their super secret club sigil? :mason:

Lord of the Llamas posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-31056823


Almost like he's talking about himself for a moment.

Dangit I was just coming (hur hur :fap::hf::jihad:) to post this

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