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sector_corrector posted:it does suck if you're running a summoning necro and you get to duriel, esp without respecs, since all of your sources of damage disappear entirely and getting corpses between deaths becomes a pain in the rear end this is pretty much exactly what happened to me the first time i played diablo 2
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THE PENETRATOR posted:thankfully when i played d2 i had a strong enough computer and internet to not get hosed by the great area load bug that bug owns. it's one of the rare bugs that is actually a scrub check for your computer that isn't a smoke cloud of some sort
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Jan 8, 2015 01:24
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VisAbsoluta posted:
Platinum's boss design is consistently some of the best boss design ever.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:11
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THE PENETRATOR posted:thankfully when i played d2 i had a strong enough computer and internet to not get hosed by the great area load bug That owned so hard. First time I got to him I was a sorc and when I went down I just died and had no clue wtf.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:30
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THE PENETRATOR posted:thankfully when i played d2 i had a strong enough computer and internet to not get hosed by the great area load bug I was on a poo poo bird lap top at the time and literally just showed me the death respawn overlay when it loaded.
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Jan 8, 2015 19:47
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ragnarok online handled that really well by not letting a character be attacked until they sent a move/attack command or a second passed
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Jan 8, 2015 19:55
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Mach2 posted:Platinum's boss design is consistently some of the best boss design ever. Bayonetta 2's is weak and repetitive.
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Jan 8, 2015 20:11
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Doctor Goat posted:ragnarok online handled that really well by not letting a character be attacked until they sent a move/attack command or a second passed A second was too short.
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Jan 8, 2015 22:00
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YIKES Stay Gooned posted:Bayonetta 2's is weak and repetitive. I haven't played it yet and you're crushing my soul please let this be a lie
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Jan 8, 2015 23:50
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Mach2 posted:I haven't played it yet and you're crushing my soul please let this be a lie It's a huge lie. Bayonetta 2 has way better bosses than the first game.
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Jan 8, 2015 23:53
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Evil Eagle posted:It's a huge lie. Bayonetta 2 has way better bosses than the first game. Thank you gamer, you've made me feel much better
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Jan 8, 2015 23:53
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Evil Eagle posted:It's a huge lie. Bayonetta 2 has way better bosses than the first game. More than half of them are the same thing, where is just you verse a regular dude who attacks really fast and you can only get 2 or 3 hits in. They're fine but they use the same encounter a lot. It has lots of other great fights though, just nothing as good as the Jeanne fight from 1.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:48
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I agree that the Jeanne fights are the best but I think every other fight is worse in 1.
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Jan 9, 2015 05:15
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Moldy Taxes posted:I've never beaten Chrono Cross because Miguel is pretty dang hard! Then again he's on like, disc 2 so maybe that doesn't count. Are you loving retarded? Disc 2 does not start until very near the end of the game, well past the fight with Miguel. Christ!
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Jan 9, 2015 06:53
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conceitedguy posted:Are you loving retarded? Disc 2 does not start until very near the end of the game, well past the fight with Miguel. Christ! It's completely moot since chronocross was poo poo that people only know about because it has "chrono" in the name.
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Jan 9, 2015 07:33
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it's been a long time since i played chrono cross, remind me why everyone hates it. besides the really tenuous plot connections to trigger.
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Jan 9, 2015 07:48
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miguel was a prick though
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Jan 9, 2015 07:49
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he made you sit through his dumb poo poo speech as punishment for each time he killed you too, serving as a gateway to teach people not to read anything in that poo poo game
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Jan 9, 2015 07:52
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Also he guards a literal gateway back to the real world and a metaphorical gateway bell combination thingy. Everybody hates Chrono Cross because the game doesn't make a single iota of sense even on its own. Conversely, it features the best use of alternate timelines where you can see that the dwarves that called you racist for making them extinct will just wipe out the fairies to the last for lebensraum if you choose the other option letting you very smugly murder them. Music is also pretty good.
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Jan 9, 2015 07:55
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 Stealth? Why would I care about that in this game about shooting alieOH gently caress
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Jan 9, 2015 14:01
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Inflammatory posted:it's been a long time since i played chrono cross, remind me why everyone hates it. besides the really tenuous plot connections to trigger. other than looking and sounding nice it doesnt have anything going for it and the plot connections to chrono trigger are mostly making GBS threads on the ending
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Jan 9, 2015 14:03
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Remember how Chrono Trigger started quickly, lacked a mandatory tutorial, and immediately hooked you into the plot? If you want, you can go from the beginning of the game to 600 A.D. in about five minutes. Chrono Cross starts the game by making you do an idiot lizard-catching minigame that takes forever. Remember how Chrono Trigger battles were fast and didn't slow the game and could be ended in a turn or two? Chrono Cross battles combine the long slow animations of every PSX-era RPG with a system that requires several turns before you can use your actual abilities. Dual and triple techs? Gone. Interesting boss design that taught the game as it goes along? Gone. But don't worry, they've added joke tutorial boss fights that take forever. Chrono Cross is not a good or fun RPG on a mechanical level. Then on top of that the characters are even more poorly-developed than CT characters somehow, the plot has Xenogears-level pacing problems, and there are about three memorable locations in the entire game.
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Jan 9, 2015 14:10
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the "somehow" to how poorly developed they are is that instead of 7 characters there are like 50 for some reason, in a game where the party size is 3 and you can never swap out your silent main character
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Jan 9, 2015 14:20
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01011001 posted:the "somehow" to how poorly developed they are is that instead of 7 characters there are like 50 for some reason, in a game where the party size is 3 and you can never swap out your silent main character you do have to be a cat for a long time though instead of the regular dude
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Jan 9, 2015 14:26
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That was going to happen in Chrono Trigger as well, but they decided the sprite for Alfador was too small to animate in battle.
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Jan 9, 2015 14:27
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FactsAreUseless posted:Remember how Chrono Trigger started quickly, lacked a mandatory tutorial, and immediately hooked you into the plot? If you want, you can go from the beginning of the game to 600 A.D. in about five minutes. Chrono Cross starts the game by making you do an idiot lizard-catching minigame that takes forever. Remember how Chrono Trigger battles were fast and didn't slow the game and could be ended in a turn or two? Chrono Cross battles combine the long slow animations of every PSX-era RPG with a system that requires several turns before you can use your actual abilities. Dual and triple techs? Gone. Interesting boss design that taught the game as it goes along? Gone. But don't worry, they've added joke tutorial boss fights that take forever.
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Jan 9, 2015 15:38
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i went and checked, there are 9 double and 2 triple techs. most of the doubles need characters who arent serge so the odds that you will just stumble on most of them are fairly slim
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Jan 9, 2015 16:43
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Whybird posted:
Wasted so many grenades trying to figure out how to kill this thing.
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Jan 9, 2015 17:23
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 Oh, maybe I should use that ability to go back and forth to certain areas without needing to complete them in their entirety. The guy is hard due to all the cocaine he snorts, but if you complete part of Taipei you can get a contact who will essentially poison his cocaine and make him a cakewalk.
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Jan 9, 2015 18:28
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FactsAreUseless posted:Remember how Chrono Trigger started quickly, lacked a mandatory tutorial, and immediately hooked you into the plot? If you want, you can go from the beginning of the game to 600 A.D. in about five minutes. Chrono Cross starts the game by making you do an idiot lizard-catching minigame that takes forever. Remember how Chrono Trigger battles were fast and didn't slow the game and could be ended in a turn or two? Chrono Cross battles combine the long slow animations of every PSX-era RPG with a system that requires several turns before you can use your actual abilities. Also remember how the plot of Chrono Trigger is really straightforward and compelling, and all the weird implications of time travel are pushed aside into a single optional sidequest scene? My favorite thing about Chrono Cross is the late-game infodump type speech where an old wise man explains all the mysterious stuff that has been going on in the story so far. It's too long to quote in full here, so take a look at Wikipedia's summary of the most salient points: quote:[At Terra Tower, the prophet of time, revealed to be Belthasar from Chrono Trigger, visits him with visions of Crono, Marle, and Lucca. Serge learns that the time research facility Chronopolis created El Nido thousands of years ago after a catastrophic experimental failure drew it to the past.[13] The introduction of a temporally foreign object in history caused the planet to pull in a counterbalance from a different dimension.[14] This was Dinopolis, a city of Dragonians—parallel universe descendants of Chrono Trigger's Reptites. The institutions warred and Chronopolis subjugated the Dragonians. Humans captured their chief creation—the Dragon God, an entity capable of controlling nature. So yeah pretty straightforward
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Jan 9, 2015 19:23
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LuiCypher posted:
just dont attack him while he's running at you. hit him when he's not doing that. you dont need the heck intel
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Jan 9, 2015 19:27
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i liked harle a lot, she's cool
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Jan 9, 2015 19:39
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 Although I guess the big stumbling block for most is the first helicopter
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Jan 9, 2015 19:40
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LuiCypher posted:
If you've been pumping SMG or Pistol (and didn't do St. Petersburg first), he's a complete bitch because you can eat away most of his health while he's got his guns out. Pumping Martial Arts will also work if you dodge until he sags over a little and then beat the poo poo out of him. There are also two full heals in the boss room.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:53
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01011001 posted:just dont attack him while he's running at you. hit him when he's not doing that. you dont need the heck intel Fair enough. I could never deal enough damage to him fast enough and then the cocaine recharged his endurance. That's what I get for being a H2H specialist and having bad timing. Also, why would you not want heck intel? Heck intel is the best intel. Either way, I considered him a gateway because the first time you play he's probably the most difficult boss in the game, but if you actually take advantage of the game's ability to go from operation to operation without finishing them you can actually make it a much easier boss fight. Either way, once you know how to play the game, he's not that hard.
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Jan 9, 2015 19:59
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Effectronica posted:If you've been pumping SMG or Pistol (and didn't do St. Petersburg first), he's a complete bitch because you can eat away most of his health while he's got his guns out. Pumping Martial Arts will also work if you dodge until he sags over a little and then beat the poo poo out of him. There are also two full heals in the boss room. you can also do this it assault rifle with like no leveling of the skill, or you just phosphorus-shotgun him when he sags after charging at you, again with no leveling of the skill you can also easily firebomb him when he's up top because he often just stays in one place i guess he could be considered a roadblock considering the most common advice i see is to take pistols to skip most of the gameplay and he punishes that the most of the bosses LuiCypher posted:Fair enough. I could never deal enough damage to him fast enough and then the cocaine recharged his endurance. That's what I get for being a H2H specialist and having bad timing. yeah its not really worth damaging him right before he cokes up because he instantly regains all endurance the game sometimes gets weird with event triggers if you flip between locations which is why i dont like doing it
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Jan 9, 2015 20:03
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01011001 posted:you can also do this it assault rifle with like no leveling of the skill, or you just phosphorus-shotgun him when he sags after charging at you, again with no leveling of the skill Yeah, I realized that shotgun would also trivialize his coked-up mode right after posting. And I did ARs the first time and grenades the second time I played, so I know that they're not quite so easy as Pistols/SMG/Martial Arts. But that's a good point. He is a lot harder than Deng or Marburg for most players because he actually chases you down.
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Jan 9, 2015 20:12
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yeah, true, AR isn't quite as good if only because the active skill sucks poo poo. but they'll do the trick in the sense that training them gets you very little so its not like you can bone yourself out of being able to beat him. shotgun is pretty bad too for the most part but phosphorus rounds are really good and damage over time vs bosses is pretty powerful in AP its not only that he chases you down, deng does that too, its that he chases you down while nearly invincible and if he closes he'll gently caress you up always
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Jan 9, 2015 20:26
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Cocaine guy fight owned because of the music, just like the bar scene in bulletstorm
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