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I bet that everybody that you think is a Bear is really a Human, and everybody that is really a human is really a bear. That's just my two cents.
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Kureha is a secret undercover bear.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:22
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She has a gun, and is therefore the most dangerous of all the bears.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:23
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It's about man's inhumanity to man.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:26
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It's a surprise birthday party gone horribly wrong.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:27
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There was a glitch in the matrix, and Kureha has to become the Ultimate Lily Warrior to fix it.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:27
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It's really just an elaborate ad for the Japan Hunters Association. Rifles are cool, but handle weapons responsibly.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:30
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Nature is Good, and so is Civilization, but maybe we should work together to strike a balance between the two, as citizens of earth.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:31
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We need to eliminate the concept of the circus, or the enmity felt towards humans by the dancing bears will result in the dark future you see before you. Please think of the future children.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:34
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Fishguts are gross and you shouldn't eat them, this misery is divine punishment.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:36
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Deforestation.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:38
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It's a heavily veiled and obfuscated retelling of the life and times of the 26th American President, Theodore "T.R." Roosevelt, Jr. His nickname was 'Teddy' and 'Teddy' is another english word for bear. Shocking but true.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:41
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This post isn't a possible spoiler, I just think GAO GAO is a really good sound effect that should get used more.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:41
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It's the Bearlin Wall.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:55
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I'm done now.
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Jan 8, 2015 04:55
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You won't be laughing when it turns out every single one of my incredibly astute observations are revealed to be true.
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Jan 8, 2015 05:00
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It's the invisible storm because you can't see the wind, it's invisible.
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Jan 8, 2015 17:53
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Maybe if it picks up a bunch of leaves first, but then you would be seeing the leaves, and not actually the storm. It's really interesting.
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Jan 8, 2015 17:53
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Ive never watched an ikuhara show before so I'm not sure what the overused stylistic tells were, but I've seen a lot of people say that so it must be true. Personally I think a lot depends on the next episode and if it establishes the arch of the narrative or not. I like piecing things together and sudden shifts in storytelling, but I don't really feel like there's much to grasp on at all from one episode.
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Jan 8, 2015 21:51
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As an actual longshot attempt at guesswork instead of a bunch of jokes, I think that the bears don't actually have much to do with Sumika's disappearance, it's something to do with the storm and made up to look like a bear attack. Also Kureha was friends with bears beforehand, based entirely on that one bear having her mom's necklace and the discussion of who her friend was being left really vague. Also her favorite food is basically pickled fish guts. I expect the actual explanation for what bears are to be more complicated than what was given, bears are always unreliable narrators.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:15
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wielder posted:I honestly admire all of the people who tried to decypher the symbols in every single episode of Penguindrum when it was airing, as well as those who are starting to do the same with Yuri Kuma Arashi, but I'd honestly prefer to sit back and take it all in first for a few weeks, before attempting to put forward any detailed speculation that could be easily proven completely or partially wrong at this early stage of the game. Ikuhara is the sort of creator who can be simultaneously surprisingly clever, transparently heavy-handed and even just way too surreal for a normal person to comprehend at first glance. I absolutely agree in the futility, but think its fun and enjoyable to attempt to anyways.
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Jan 9, 2015 04:55
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I wish I was a bear.
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Jan 11, 2015 18:41
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Dan7el posted:So, I will not pretend to understand all the imagery and associations attempted by this guy Ikuhara for this show. In fact, I will admit I watched Penguin Drum and didn't know anything about Ikuhara until you all started chatting about him with such vigor in anticipation for this show.
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Jan 12, 2015 01:17
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Everybody is bears. The bears can use the guns. All my predictions are coming true.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:33
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I still haven't pieced together how this all fits together with Teddy Roosevelts childhood in New York, but rest assured I am working on it.
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Jan 12, 2015 21:36
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I'd probably like the show more if the characters had more personality instead of basically being stock character types, though.
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Jan 12, 2015 22:14
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Kureha lives in the Psycho House and the interior is also the Psycho House. Well. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Jan 15, 2015 |
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Jan 15, 2015 16:21
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The shows really uncomfortable, and I still don't know if I like it yet.
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Jan 20, 2015 18:23
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To it's benefit I'd say its purposefully uncomfortable though, it was crafted to feel that way.
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Jan 20, 2015 18:24
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They're never gonna have a cast to care about if they keep killing everybody off though!!
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Jan 20, 2015 18:25
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Also when the bear fell off the roof I never noticed it before, it's totally a photograph of an actual teddy bear, haha.
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Jan 20, 2015 18:51
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I think the obvious sort of ending is Kureha and the Bears learning to love in a new and more honest way and changing the systems from both sides, but I feel like that kind of ending would actually disappoint me a bit and feel out of place, because the tone of the show and the world in it is weird. This episode confirmed that what the bears are doing is actual murder, so all the aesthetic horror references aren't actually that shallow. With the oppressive, encompassing environment, stock characters, and everybody dying all the time it's structured way more like a psychological/slasher horror series than a romance one. Also you kind of muddle your message about bullying and exclusion being bad when you live in a world where people will kill and eat you when you don't, and also if you do. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Jan 20, 2015 19:10
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Darth Walrus posted:I think it makes more sense when you remember that the bears are also victims who have this system imposed on them. Basically, if you're gay, society only allows you to be either a predator or a victim (and is perfectly happy with killing you if you're a predator). The Court of Yuri is just the flipside of the Exclusion Ceremonies. Oh yeah as a statement of the actual world its totally true, but I haven't seen much of that in this show as it is. The bears, all of them so far, seem to revel in the eating. I think if that's an aspect of the world you wanted to expound upon you could do it even in earlier episodes like this, but instead even the two main bears are straight up taunting people before they kill them. Earlier I thought the eating was more metaphor or an obfuscation of the exclusion of people chosen by the Storm, maybe even them being removed to outside the wall, but this episode told us yeah they were killing and eating other people before her. The theremin music doesn't really help me disassociate those scenes from horror movies either. Also I feel like I actually don't very much care for these characters, or their love, because they're all pretty flat. In this episode we meet and lose a character that only got a handful of dialogue lines, none of which established much about them except an antagonistic role in the storm. They were a standard sacrificial horror movie victim type. Sharkopath fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Jan 20, 2015 |
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Jan 20, 2015 19:46
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The teacher lady is going to become Big Boss Bear and kill everybody, and Kureha is going to have to shoot her down with the last love bullet the bears gave her, becoming the Sole Survivor of Love is the ending that the show should get with the tone it has right now.
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Jan 20, 2015 19:48
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Although I guess if the line about burying the body was 'WE HUGGED HER SO MUCH SHE DECIDED THIS SOCIETAL PRESSURE IS FOR THE BIRDS, SO SHE IMMEDIATELY WENT AWAY TO GET OUT OF THE WALL AND WE BURIED THE THINGS SHE LEFT BEHIND HERE IN TRIBUTE, AND THATS WHY SHE WENT MISSING' would be really funny. Really really funny.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:So many horror movie references. The school hallways are the same as the hallways in suspira, and besides her own room, kurehas downstairs and whole house are the same as the bates home.
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Jan 20, 2015 20:21
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It would also be cool if the next episode opens on this finale, but then the girl reveals the black flower Yuri thing turned her into a bear now, and the entire episode is an epic teddy bear battle.
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Jan 20, 2015 20:22
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The finale of Freddy v Jason as reenacted by a troupe of teddy ruxpins.
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Jan 20, 2015 20:24
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Oh I read that line entirely differently than a deal with the devil, I thought they were specifically going after after storm members to protect her. I hope the next episode opens up a lot more, since presumably kureha is in The custody of bears they'll have a chance to interact and maybe even reveal some things. My biggest complaints so far are that so far you could fit the entirety of The casts traits and characters on a post it note, and the cyclical nature of everything means the show is spinning in circles.
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Endorph posted:ty I agree actuallly.
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