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A Buttery Pastry posted:Yeah, strict gun laws mostly just prevent your regular unstable person/idiot from easy access to guns, not hardened/organized criminals or terrorists. Are you saying gun laws only affect law abiding citizens? 
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Ligur posted:My bet is it's home grown guys from the banlieus if they spoke really good French. There was, and they were killed first.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:09
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spacetoaster posted:Are you saying gun laws only affect law abiding citizens? And petty criminals. Organized crime can always smuggle stuff.
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Ligur posted:How the gently caress there was no security? There were police officers stationed outside the Charlie Hebdo offices; they were both killed. Ex-police chief (and no doubt everyone else, shortly) is now claiming there wasn't enough security, which is just the usual circular logic.
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Hogge Wild posted:There was, and they were killed first. There's even a video showing them executing a police officer that attempted to get away.
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quote:Reuters reports that the headquarters of RPT media group Prisa in Madrid have been evacuated after a “suspicious package” was received. Prisa owns El Pais, among other things.
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Cat Mattress posted:There was security, they killed security. Oh. Ok.  In Middle-East security probably has assault rifles and kevlar. I wouldn't be surprised if in the strict gun law France they might have carried just pistols...
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-Ah, snipped. This can only end badly.- Take it with a pinch of salt but this is being shared on other forums. EDIT: keep in mind it's just an image of two guys with creepy smiles in a car. Deltasquid fucked around with this message at 15:17 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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Deltasquid posted:http://i.imgur.com/11qnNx6.png The interior of that car looks a lot older than the exterior of the one in the videos.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:13
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What France needs is stricter hate speech laws. If those cartoonists weren't allowed to insult Islam this would never have happened.
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Ligur posted:Oh. Ok. I think that they were cops. Deltasquid posted:http://i.imgur.com/11qnNx6.png So, they were goons. Fess up!
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Jan 7, 2015 15:14
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spacetoaster posted:What France needs is stricter hate speech laws. If those cartoonists weren't allowed to insult Islam this would never have happened. Some leftist intellectuals from various countries are espousing this exact view on Twitter. Very disappointing.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:14
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Pissflaps posted:The interior of that car looks a lot older than the exterior of the one in the videos. They stole a second car though, who knows what they're driving right now?
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Deltasquid posted:They stole a second car though, who knows what they're driving right now? Oh yes so they did sorry.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:15
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This is just loving terrible. I hope they catch the perpetrators.
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Deltasquid posted:They stole a second car though, who knows what they're driving right now? Stop trying to imply some random photo of whoever the gently caress, is not really, but is possibly, the gunmen. This is the kind of poo poo that gets innocent people hurt or slandered.
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The Mayor of Paris just referred to three attackers in a press conference, but that might have been a mistake instead of an actual update.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:16
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Brannock posted:I didn't know this -- apparently Charb had a bounty on his head placed by Al-Qaeda a couple years ago.  Really sad to hear about this. Not sure what else can be said.
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Deltasquid posted:Take it with a pinch of salt but this is being shared on other forums. There's no evidence based on that Twitter account that the account-holder has any connection to the Charlie Hebdo attacks beyond their glee at the attacks themselves. "Other forums" need to eat salt. Agrajag posted:Stop trying to imply some random photo of whoever the gently caress, is not really, but possibly the gunmen. This is the kind of poo poo that gets innocent people hurt or slandered.
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Deltasquid posted:-Ah, snipped. This can only end badly.- It's a still from a old video, a version of it's here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oizFbzjAXIU&t=79s
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Jan 7, 2015 15:18
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Brown Moses posted:Another witness claims the gunmen told him to tell the media they were Al-Qaeda in Yemen. Yemen? What did we ever do to Yemen.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:18
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Watching the video of them casually executing the cop while running by there is no way this is some self radicalized thing. They look like military.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:19
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ascii genitals posted:Watching the video of them casually executing the cop while running by there is no way this is some self radicalized thing. They look like military. Just looking at the way the one guy walks away with the rifle slung across his chest makes him look professional or at the very least trained.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:20
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Brown Moses posted:It's a still from a old video, a version of it's here Good to know, I was trying to figure out where it was from. Nevermind my dumb post then.
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quote:Meanwhile Jyllands-Posten, the Danish newspaper that originally published the inflammatory Prophet Mohammed cartoons in 2005, has reportedly stepped up its security.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:23
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Brown Moses posted:It's a still from a old video, a version of it's here
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Jan 7, 2015 15:23
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Brannock posted:Some leftist intellectuals from various countries are espousing this exact view on Twitter. Very disappointing. I posted that with a smirk of irony, now I'm sad.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:24
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rudatron posted:It's more likely to be muslim french nationals unaffiliated with ISIS committing an attack, is what I think yf-23 means. This is what I meant. Agrajag posted:Is this based on any facts or just your "gut" feeling? It is my non-professional assessment based on (individual) ISIS jihadis subscribing to that form of radical islamism by their own account. Given that it sounds like al-Qaeda is behind it I'd say it was accurate enough.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:26
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Total Meatlove posted:The Mayor of Paris just referred to three attackers in a press conference, but that might have been a mistake instead of an actual update. This has just flashed up as confirmed, so it's 3 gunmen that are now on the loose.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:26
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Toplowtech posted:Yeah, if it's like all the previous terrorist attacks, probably 90% of the "facts" posted on twitter and 50% of the ones in the press/on tv during the next 24 hours are going to turn out to be bullshit. Yeah, there is the claim being thrown around that the attackers had an RPG. The supposed source of the claim is from the AFP offices next door, but still, hard to take seriously until there's more than hearsay.
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Jan 7, 2015 15:28
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Kurtofan posted:Yemen? What did we ever do to Yemen. It's very complicated but that country didn't turn into a total shithole entirely on its own.
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ascii genitals posted:Watching the video of them casually executing the cop while running by there is no way this is some self radicalized thing. They look like military. You do know that Islam is a heavily militarized religion, right? They have military style training camps all over the place (in Europe!). It's not too far out to say they were trained in France (didn't one report say they spoke French with no foreign accent?).
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spacetoaster posted:You do know that Islam is a heavily militarized religion, right? They have military style training camps all over the place (in Europe!). It's not too far out to say they were trained in France (didn't one report say they spoke French with no foreign accent?). What the gently caress is this poo poo?
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spacetoaster posted:You do know that Islam is a heavily militarized religion, right? They have military style training camps all over the place (in Europe!). It's not too far out to say they were trained in France (didn't one report say they spoke French with no foreign accent?). All I'm saying is this is clearly different than what happened in Australia. I'd be willing to bet these people are from France but were trained elsewhere. Starting your comment with smug talking down isn't necessary.
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Cat Mattress posted:And petty criminals.
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Orange Devil posted:What the gently caress is this poo poo? Stuff, and things. Thanks for asking. According to news reports there are jihadist training camps in Belgium. Isn't that near France? *edit The camps are supposedly in the ardennes which they say leads right into France. spacetoaster fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jan 7, 2015 |
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ascii genitals posted:All I'm saying is this is clearly different than what happened in Australia. I'd be willing to bet these people are from France but were trained elsewhere. It's evidently clearly different unless Kalishnikov's and rocket launchers are easily obtainable in France as opposed to a farmers shotgun.
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Kurtofan posted:Yemen? What did we ever do to Yemen. Incidentally, there was a pretty big suicide bombing in Yemen today, killing more than 30 people.
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spacetoaster posted:Stuff, and things. Thanks for asking. Is Belgium near France? Hum, that's a tough one.
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