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Jeb Bush 2012
Apr 4, 2007

A mathematician, like a painter or poet, is a maker of patterns. If his patterns are more permanent than theirs, it is because they are made with ideas.

Devian666 posted:

Doing a degree with little or no use is just fulfilling academic interests. That's fine if you don't mind burning a few years of your life and if you didn't clock up any debt. However if you end up with a lot of debt and a minimum wage job (if you find employment) is a poor financial position to be in.

This is straight-up wrong. People with degrees (the vast majority of whom aren't directly "using" their degrees in the sense you guys talk about) have substantially larger average lifetime earnings than people without them, because plenty of jobs require or prefer *a* degree without actually needing any one in particular. (there are confounding factors here, like the fact that people who get degrees tend to be people who would have had better opportunities anyway, but pretty much every plausible estimate of the degree premium has it a lot higher than the cost of going to college, even for the "useless" subjects goons like to sneer at)

Which is not to say that it's a good idea to plan your life around a very specific degree -> peace corps -> government path.

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