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I hear you. My prior history comes from SCA heavy, and that has rather influenced me in wanting to learn the basket hilted sword, because the movements and tactics are familiar.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2018 20:40 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 13:48 |
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EvilMerlin posted:Funny thing is, thats how I got my start in HEMA. What up carpet armor buddy. My first suit was hideous tan/brown shag. Worked pretty well, actually, for the couple months until I got around to building some brig.
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# ¿ Nov 19, 2018 21:23 |
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EvilMerlin posted:I went with a set of homemade leather backed Type I coat of plates (from Battle of Visby). And a loving MASSIVE tank of a flat top barrel helm... Canvas-backed Type 3 (vertical instead of horizontal plates) for me, but same. I ditched the loaner barrel helm for a bascinet though, as I got tired of getting rung like a bell. Eventually made 'stealth' brig that closed on both sides instead of the back and had shoulders strapped like a Japanese Do, and threw a tunic over. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Nov 19, 2018 |
# ¿ Nov 19, 2018 23:14 |
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EvilMerlin posted:Yeah that was one of the first things I swapped out. I had Adam at White Mountain Armoury (long gone) make me one of the first kettle helms he ever made for SCA fighting. That's some drat nice harness, thanks for sharing it!
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# ¿ Nov 21, 2018 01:56 |
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I got to play with a Castille feder the other day that had spray on truck bed liner for a grip. It works really well with gloves. Would eat your hands up a bit barehanded though.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2018 17:03 |
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Unzip and Attack posted:OMG that thing is beautiful. Wow, yeah it is.
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# ¿ Dec 20, 2018 17:02 |
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EvilMerlin posted:Prices are not all that bad either. I like a long grip, but then I am a long person. Dangit, I have no opportunity to do longsword work right now, I should not be coveting a feder.
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# ¿ Dec 21, 2018 06:26 |
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More than likely. I'm 4" taller than you, though, so the extra hilt space makes it easier to have good hand position for me.
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# ¿ Dec 22, 2018 01:04 |
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I think what's coming across is similar to learning martial arts by doing just katas vs training against a resisting opponent. It's absolutely possible to learn some of it. Cutting is one of those things. However when it comes to fighting a resisting opponent, the most worthwhile training for it is doing it. Versimilitude's suggestion of doing seminars is good, but still going to be slower and harder going than regular classes with an instructor who can give realtime feedback and with chances to really spar. We should honestly take this to the HEMA thread.
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# ¿ Jan 3, 2019 07:00 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Whelp. Guess I got more poo poo to buy. Hard knees are dirt cheap compared to knee surgery. Same with gorgets and throats.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2019 04:50 |
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Xiahou Dun posted:Ain’t gotta tell me twice! I had to walk with a cane for a couple years. I hear you, I've had to have one knee fixed already myself, and the other will finish tearing any year now. As far as what to wear, depends on what pants you're rocking, really. When I was able to have time to spar I was still rolling in my old SCA articulated kydex 5-lame knees, which were seriously overkill but I had them and they were comfortable. Something similar to these. Neyman's knees in the same ~30 buck price range look good as well, I like having wings on the sides of the knee. I haven't used either of those myself, and the folks who get to do this more often will likely have much better suggestions for you since gear has apparently advanced a lot in the last few years!
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2019 05:47 |
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EvilMerlin posted:I wish we could do this. Most of the clubs in the US can barely afford to pay rent, let alone keep spare feders around. The universal constant, people are scum.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2019 19:18 |
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How was the delivery time from Neyman? I like the look of their stuff, but wasn't sure what kind of turnaround they do.
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# ¿ Jan 13, 2019 07:27 |
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Guy Windsor has posted the second part of his Basic Historical Rapier workbook as pay-what-you-want : https://gumroad.com/l/QXXYy He says the third should be out next month. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Jan 25, 2019 |
# ¿ Jan 25, 2019 07:18 |
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Seems like a good rule if you're going for style over substance.
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# ¿ Feb 19, 2019 08:38 |
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Crazy Achmed posted:I'm sure I'm being terrible and elitist but honestly this sounds super cringey. But I always thought that fighting with a weightless blade that vaporises everything instantly would basically be epee, because why would you ever do anything other than be super cagey and go for maximum range touches to your opponent's wrist? Remember that they weren't going for Age of Sail swashbuckling, they were cribbing from Kurosawa films.
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# ¿ Feb 23, 2019 18:40 |
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Well, George saw some wushu competition forms and there was no stopping him...
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# ¿ Feb 24, 2019 01:28 |
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I am not a kendoka, but it looks a lot to me like that's an attempt to get their opponents to misjudge their intentions and timing.
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# ¿ Mar 15, 2019 03:47 |
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The majority of those dudes aren't wearing face protection. Also, what the hell is going on with the armor? It's almost universally terribly fitted where it is built correctly at all.
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2019 04:56 |
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Yeah, that puzzled me too, because the stuff on their blog talks about recreating Warring States period fighting. IIRC that would have been at best matchlocks based off of Portuguese designs...
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# ¿ Mar 23, 2019 11:37 |
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Check out ARMA's collection. The closest thing I know of for actual fighting manuals period-wise would be I.33, but that's just sword and buckler, not really as comparable. For sword and shield, I'd look to reenactors. Hurstwic has some stuff here. Maybe also look at the Cateran Society's stuff on broadsword and targe, most of which seem to be based on Thomas Paine's “Use of the Highland Broadsword”. A viking era sword is going to be balanced differently, and the shield will be larger, but the principals will be more likely to compare than the smaller bucklers used in most rapier systems or I.33. That's a shot in the dark, though. I learned shieldwork in the SCA, which means I have bad habits based on the gear and rules of the game as compared to what would serve in a real fight.
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# ¿ May 9, 2019 05:15 |
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Internet Wizard posted:Anybody have any experience or opinions about Rocky Mountain Swordplay Guild? I’m looking to start taking some historical fencing classes and they look like my closest option. The local SCA group has fighting practice closer to my apartment but I’ve gotten the impression that a HEMA school will give me a better instruction on reconstructed techniques than SCA. Depends entirely on the interests of your HEMA club vs local SCA chapter. There's people doing SCA fencing who are deeply interested in learning historical styles just the same as there's people in HEMA who are there for the sport of modern competitive longsword and don't give a gently caress about historic method beyond the basics. I'd advise going to whichever one strikes your fancy and seeing if you mesh with the people and if they're interested in doing the stuff you're into. I bounced off my local HEMA club for that reason, I'm much more interested in backsword/broadsword, but all they really want to do is early German longsword, which doesn't appeal much to me. Decent enough seeming people, though.
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# ¿ Oct 18, 2019 14:35 |
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Flunges are why I know I'm not an oly sabre enthusiast. Such a silly over-stylized 'attack', but it fits within the rules as specified.
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# ¿ Jan 11, 2020 15:45 |
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Tennis balls are good, I also like a 2" ring on a string hung from the ceiling for lunging practice. Easiest thing, though, is footwork practice. You can do it anywhere and it requires nothing.
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# ¿ Mar 21, 2020 16:29 |
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Siivola posted:If money is not an object, Albion Swords and Arms and Armor make great replicas. Guy's stuff is definitely solid. You can work a lot of the saber/backsword/broadsword cuts with an arming sword as well. Roworth's not a terrible place to start to get a feel for basic cuts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9d_ulKNRCkk
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# ¿ May 11, 2020 01:14 |
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ImplicitAssembler posted:We start (kendo) again on Sunday, with special face shields and mask. It's gonna suck, but it's better than not doing kendo. Yeah, we have theoretical approval to go back to small group outdoor work in July, but given the state of things are just going to not. Another couple months vs someone taking COVID home to their kids is an easy decision.
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# ¿ Jun 26, 2020 07:34 |
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That's actually something I like better about SCA cut & thrust. Most of the people I fenced (back when fencing in person was a thing) wore fencing helms instead of three weapon masks. Even a relatively light steel helmet, strapped and padded properly, is way better to take a shot to the crown of the head in.
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# ¿ Aug 11, 2020 10:09 |
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HEMA sabre is everything I thought sabre would be when I took up fencing back in college. I'm absolutely no good at it though, it needs more wrist and shoulder mobility than my beat up old rear end can manage.
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# ¿ Jan 30, 2021 13:40 |
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Makes sense. Few small clubs could afford to just not have most of their membership for a year and stay in business. HEMA's feeling the same pinch. https://www.keithfarrell.net/blog/2021/01/finding-motivation-to-return-to-teaching-hema-this-year/ My local HEMA club's been shut down since late May last year and is probably going to have to find a new location whenever they can come back.
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# ¿ Feb 11, 2021 11:04 |
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That throw crossed the line to 'dick move' for me when the thrower had the other fighter hoisted up by the short ribs and helpless (because you're not going to kick someone in the dick or start throwing pommel strikes in sparring), then paused for a moment before deciding to slam him on a wood floor with his own body weight behind it anyway. It absolutely read to me like only one of them knew that was on the table. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 01:59 on Mar 18, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 01:56 |
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Yeah, more than a bit of a side-eye from me to the ref as well for not calling the point and stopping it.
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# ¿ Mar 18, 2021 12:27 |
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Nektu posted:Tbh wrestling and swordfighting goes hand in hand in the sources. The throws from the sources that I know offer better control of your opponents weapon than that supplex though. It'd be kinda darkly hilarious to see more often, because I know very few HEMA practitioners who know how to deal with an opponent shooting for a double-leg. Absolutely don't want to see it though, tourneys already have a terrible problem with people utterly ignoring defense and just doubling instead.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 02:02 |
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I think tournaments are important as gatherings, because if you're going to treat HEMA as a martial art, the real test of it is a resisting opponent who isn't the same guy you train with every week. Plus since so many of the arts have fragmentary at best primary sources, seeing others' interpretations is good. On the other hand tournament rules could really use a lot more thought in some cases, as they get geared towards sporting play.
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# ¿ Mar 19, 2021 08:52 |
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I'd honestly be more worried about concussion, were I to get thrown in my HEMA gear. Fencing masks aren't made to mitigate that kind of impact, especially from say landing on the back of your head getting dumped on a hardwood floor. Part of why I think we're going to see movement towards fencing helms for longsword as well, because they also don't fully mitigate taking a downward blow to the crown of the head. I know I'd be much more comfortable taking that kind of shot in my old SCA helm than in a fencing mask, even with a hard back. Liquid Communism fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Mar 22, 2021 |
# ¿ Mar 22, 2021 07:27 |
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Part of that awareness is meant to be being prepared for a strike from a 'dying' opponent, is it not? That's something I wish HEMA scoring was better about, a lot of the tourney bouts you can watch should end in doubles because so many throw away all pretense of defense.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2021 08:38 |
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Crazy Achmed posted:Seconde is basically octave but with your knuckles up rather than thumb up. It feels a bit slower to me but can be done with a low or high hand pretty easily depending on where the attack is coming in. Works great against someone running past you but makes me look like a chump if they see it coming and disengage. Defending against the thrust to the lower torso/cut to the leading leg, iirc.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2021 12:42 |
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Cessna posted:Anyone else's clubs opening back up? July is the current plan.
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# ¿ Jun 10, 2021 05:31 |
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Kestral posted:Done and done - thanks for the effortpost! Yeah, there's real problem in the less reputable parts of HEMA with rampant disregard of safety gear, and mistaking hitting harder for being faster. That said, HEMA is a ton of fun. I've got my broadsword in a happier place now and I'm working on making a hilt for a dirk to go with it:
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# ¿ Jul 24, 2021 10:25 |
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Consider some historical military sabre. Whole different game with an actual blade simulator instead of a wire whip.
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# ¿ Oct 12, 2021 04:02 |
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# ¿ May 15, 2024 13:48 |
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Lucky kid to have a parent willing to put in the effort!
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# ¿ Oct 13, 2021 00:57 |