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Clancy Charlock (the sister of the murdered skinhead) looked like the mom from Family Circus.
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Jan 11, 2015 01:42
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And all the Can and Neil Young made me completely forget Jonny Greenwood apparently did some music for this movie?
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Jan 11, 2015 02:07
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I liked this quite a bit. Definitely on the lower end of PTA movies for me at this point but that means still great. I was focused so much on keeping at least a light grasp on the plot that I think I'll get a lot out of a rewatch. The final Brolin scene was just loving fantastic.
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Jan 11, 2015 02:54
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Everything with Brolin was pretty great. He was just perfect for that role. I really liked the movie. I haven't read the book, I actually got it as a gift right when it came out and just never got around to it. Then when I heard it was getting adapted in to a PTA movie I decided to wait and watch it on its own merits. Looking forward to reading it now, feel like a second pass at the material will be worth it.
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Jan 11, 2015 03:05
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This totally got me pumped to read the book, or some other Pynchon, because my absolute favorite parts of the script were the narration which I'm guessing is ripped right out of Pynchon's prose.
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Jan 11, 2015 03:25
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Caught this one earlier today. I felt pretty lost at times, but overall I felt there were some good performances. The humor worked as well. I felt it dragged on for too long though, and this is probably because I felt lost. I plan on revisiting this one after I have had a chance to read the book, and I hope I get more invested next time.
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Jan 11, 2015 03:25
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Eggnogium posted:This totally got me pumped to read the book, or some other Pynchon, because my absolute favorite parts of the script were the narration which I'm guessing is ripped right out of Pynchon's prose. yeah, much of that is right out of the book. i've mentioned this a bunch of times, but i highly recommend the audiobook. Ron McLarty makes that prose sing, and, to be frank, i think he makes a better Doc Sportello than Joaquin.
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Jan 11, 2015 03:32
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Hearing Pynchon names out-loud was a revelation. Time to buy that audiobook.
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it's also funny that i read today that PTA considered Up In Smoke a big influence on the movie, because Ron McLarty voices Doc Sportello exactly as if he were played by Tommy Chong.
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Jan 11, 2015 03:57
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While we're on this topic, here's a promo for the book thought to be possibly narrated by Pynchon himself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2daNrsfwDgY
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Jan 11, 2015 04:44
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it's also funny that i read today that PTA considered Up In Smoke a big influence on the movie, because Ron McLarty voices Doc Sportello exactly as if he were played by Tommy Chong. I got to go see a midnight showing at a local revival theater and they showed three old trailers/ads from the 70's: A shasta commercial, another one I'm forgetting, and the up in smoke trailer. I originally thought it was because of the weed usage but yeah he does play tommy chong well. I liked it, but it did drag on and the multiple endings. It's accessible though: it has a beginning, middle, ending that as moderate to follow. Has some basic noir elements but if you're not a fan or like those types of movies I could get it being "difficult".
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Jan 11, 2015 04:57
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Frackie Robinson posted:Clancy Charlock (the sister of the murdered skinhead) looked like the mom from Family Circus. That's hilarious that you make that comparison considering she's played by the porn star Belladonna.
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Frackie Robinson posted:While we're on this topic, here's a promo for the book thought to be possibly narrated by Pynchon himself. Sounds similar but he might be putting on a voice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcYXWfGt7DY
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DetoxP posted:Actually, I can probably review this using the exact same review I used for Snowpiercer: This is easily the director's worst film, but if this is your worst film, you're a pretty drat good director. Although this will likely benefit on a rewatch, assuming that you either catch the plot the 2nd time around or stop trying entirely. I'm more disappointed in how stale the film feels visually at times - it looks good, but I'm surprised Anderson went for such a static look on what should be one of his zanier movies. A busy camera would've improved the film immeasurably. Admittedly, it would've made it harder for people to follow the plot and dialogue - but that's a lost cause anyways. Man, I couldn't disagree more. For me this film had such an epic sprawl and yet it was very reserved and deliberate with its framing rather than fast and loose like American Hustle, it absolutely feels like the work of a director at the top of his game who now has a handle on varieties of visual subtlety. I think it says a lot about the individual performances as well that PTA didn't need long flashy shots to keep my attention. bows1 posted:HUNDU asked me to bring this here. That was probably my favorite scene, mainly because it felt like I was finally grounded for a moment. I also really love how much power Waterston wields in the situation, meanwhile the camera just doesn't blink. It's incredibly confrontational and one of the moments where the audience seemed really uncomfortable and yet completely transfixed, mainly because the music is so nervous. The other scene that made me really uncomfortable was the telephone conversation with Bigfoot's utterly dominating wife, which I initially laughed at and then slowly became freaked out because I know people like that. Frackie Robinson posted:I read the book in the months leading up to the movie and enjoyed it a lot. I liked the movie a good bit too, but the themes seemed noticeably different. The book kind of feels more about loss of innocence on a cultural level and a pervading sense of mistrust of the establishment in general. While that's all still present in the movie, it all feels more incidental, as the movie seems to focus more on personal loss. That's not necessarily a bad thing, just not quite what I expected. If I'd seen the movie before the book I might have liked the movie better. Yeah, it's in there definitely...but I think a lot of it is strictly in the narration, mainly because the film version of the story has other tools to convey said loss, ie cinematography, soundtrack crossing through scenes, etc. But yeah, what you're talking about is present in the Paranoia trailer, so I think it's probably distributed throughout the narration...but the film is still wordy as gently caress and some of that got lost in the mix for me. Frackie Robinson posted:Did anyone else read Sortilege in the movie as a figment of Doc's imagination? Yes occasionally, but I felt it was intentionally inconsistent, perhaps to disorient the viewer. Watching this movie felt like a drug trip, actually. I think there are scenes where the voiceover could be his imagination, a sort of "what would Sortilege think?" self-advice tool Doc employs, since he seems to trust her judgement as a friend. HP Hovercraft posted:And all the Can and Neil Young made me completely forget Jonny Greenwood apparently did some music for this movie? Can! I know! Ege Bamyası is just one hell of a record, and PTA used Vitamin C in the perfect way, fading in and out and not really cutting it at any specific point...I think they even looped it. The Greenwood music all felt very organic within the individual scenes, very much owing a debt to his music in The Master...but far more ambiguous and tense. Gonna need this soundtrack. BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 05:34 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 05:23
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Dacap posted:That's hilarious that you make that comparison considering she's played by the porn star Belladonna. brb need to get the wheels turning on my Family Circus XXX Parody (Family Circumference?)
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second-hand smegma posted:Man, I couldn't disagree more. For me this film had such an epic sprawl and yet it was very reserved and deliberate with its framing rather than fast and loose like American Hustle, it absolutely feels like the work of a director at the top of his game who now has a handle on varieties of visual subtlety. I think it says a lot about the individual performances as well that PTA didn't need long flashy shots to keep my attention. i actually thought to myself at one point that this was kind of like a good version of American Hustle.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i actually thought to myself at one point that this was kind of like a good version of American Hustle. I liked American Hustle well enough but I agree. American Hustle just felt super commonplace to me, maybe because it was aping Scorcese so hard.
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Jan 11, 2015 05:37
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:one line from the book near the beginning when they're at the pizza place that i was hoping would show up but didn't: "Can I have that piece of tofu?" "That's a marshmallow." I thought it was great that they still went to the trouble to have the marshmallow pizza and it went completely unremarked.
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Criminal Minded posted:I thought it was great that they still went to the trouble to have the marshmallow pizza and it went completely unremarked. yeah i was real excited when i saw that but then deflated when they cut the line. maybe in the deleted scenes *sigh*
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Jan 11, 2015 05:40
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This was pretty disappointing for me. Despite some effective comedy and good main performances, a lot of scenes dragged and my eyes just glossed over. When the tone was zany, the film was engaging. Whenever it did anything else, I couldn't get into it. My favorite part was easily Doc, his assistant, Martin Short, and the runaway getting pulled over. Really, that whole sequence with Martin Short was fantastic.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i actually thought to myself at one point that this was kind of like a good version of American Hustle. Hey, me too. Except it wasn't boring and didn't feel like some teenager trying to do Scoresse for his high school film project.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:yeah i was real excited when i saw that but then deflated when they cut the line. maybe in the deleted scenes *sigh* I feel like for as funny as the movie still is, PTA cut a lot of the humor from the book. One of my favorite gags was Denis and Jade in the back seat of Doc's car talking about eating pussy. Doc asks a question and Jade just yells "He's busy!". Was sad that got cut.
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TrixRabbi posted:I feel like for as funny as the movie still is, PTA cut a lot of the humor from the book. One of my favorite gags was Denis and Jade in the back seat of Doc's car talking about eating pussy. Doc asks a question and Jade just yells "He's busy!". Was sad that got cut. yeah i was waiting for that bit too.
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Criminal Minded posted:I thought it was great that they still went to the trouble to have the marshmallow pizza and it went completely unremarked. I like that they were the big campfire marshmallows so you couldn't possibly confuse them for anything else.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:i actually thought to myself at one point that this was kind of like a good version of American Hustle.
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Rageaholic Monkey posted:Weird, I saw this earlier and compared it to American Hustle in my mind while watching it too, but I thought American Hustle was the more entertaining of the 2, and I was disappointed by American Hustle. You people are insane.
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Jan 11, 2015 15:28
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i like that PTA made this just challenging enough that it probably won't join the Stoner Comedy Pantheon except with a very small subset of movie watchers. probably the most "cult" thing he's yet directed.
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Jan 11, 2015 15:31
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It's such a simple concept though, for both PTA and Pynchon - a noir detective story where the detective is constantly high and only straightens up, as a pothead would, to entertain his pet conspiracy theory. It's got it all, snappy banter with an ambiguous partner on the force/lawyer, hopelessly corrupt high society (it's even got blighted land deals), a mysterious woman from the past, dirty cops who are in on it, a vague "syndicate", red herrings and the rest. The comparison to Lebowski and The Long Goodbye are well considered.
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it's definitely the most straightforward thing i've encountered by Pynchon by a wide margin. Doc is his most genuinely affable character.
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Jan 11, 2015 15:41
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Funniest part of the movie to me was the fed up old couples that stormed out during the extended nude foot job scene. It was amazing, they likely had no idea what was happening during the movie and that tense nude scene was just too much.
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Jan 11, 2015 19:15
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Goddamn that scene was too loving good. Between this, Gone Girl, and Nightcrawler...2014 was bursting at the seams re: contemporary sexual diplomacy in film.
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Jan 11, 2015 20:05
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The scene where Bigfoot is eating the frozen banana or rather, obviously fellating the chocolate frozen banana and Doc is just staring at him had me in stitches.
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Uncle Boogeyman posted:it's definitely the most straightforward thing i've encountered by Pynchon by a wide margin. Doc is his most genuinely affable character. I saw this back in October so my memory's a lil fuzzy, but yeah this is totally true (about the straightforwardness), but I get the folks who were turned off by the movie's tendency to drag. Thing is, that's just Pynchon, and this was Pynchon at his most, streamlined, I guess? It was patience-trying, but I loved every minute of it. And I didn't really consider Doc's affability, dare I say joie de vivre, but yeah he was refreshingly earnest and bereft of that ex-hippy bitterness you get pounded over the head with in, say, Vineland, which I also loved. Carly Gay Dead Son fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Jan 11, 2015 |
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Jan 11, 2015 22:29
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I thought the most offputting thing about the movie to I guess you'd say an average moviegoer is that the scene transitions are often abrupt.
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Jan 11, 2015 22:38
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I thought the most offputting thing about the movie to I guess you'd say an average moviegoer is that the scene transitions are often abrupt. It's kinda funny because Pynchon tends to organize his scenes weirdly cinematically. I'm not well-versed enough in cinema or literature to exactly list his methods, but he makes great use of jump cuts and montage in his books.
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Frackie Robinson posted:Clancy Charlock (the sister of the murdered skinhead) looked like the mom from Family Circus. that's famed porn actress belladonna 
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vivisectvnv posted:that's famed porn actress belladonna I thought she cleaned up quite nicely. A hell of a lot more natural than James Deen or Sasha Grey.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:I thought she cleaned up quite nicely. A hell of a lot more natural than James Deen or Sasha Grey. I didn't know she was a porn star until just this minute and I never would have guessed it. PTA has a tendency to work magic when he casts porn stars, eh?
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