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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
I read the book in the months leading up to the movie and enjoyed it a lot. I liked the movie a good bit too, but the themes seemed noticeably different. The book kind of feels more about loss of innocence on a cultural level and a pervading sense of mistrust of the establishment in general. While that's all still present in the movie, it all feels more incidental, as the movie seems to focus more on personal loss. That's not necessarily a bad thing, just not quite what I expected. If I'd seen the movie before the book I might have liked the movie better.

On another note Joaquin Phoenix was fine, but I really would have loved to see the Robert Downey Jr.'s version of Doc.

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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

i agree with this. also, am i misremembering, or does Shasta Fay not reappear in the book like she does in the movie?

No, it plays out in the book almost entirely the same way, and she's similarly tight lipped about where she's been. That's the last she's in it though, she doesn't show up at the very end like in the movie.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Did anyone else read Sortilege in the movie as a figment of Doc's imagination?

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

there's definitely something strange going on there with how she's this omniscient figure, but i took it to be that "doper's ESP" that keeps coming up.

unrelated: i don't always like Josh Brolin very much but he absolutely killed it in this.

Well we also see her riding in the car with Doc several times but she never shows up at the destination, most notably when he goes to Wolfman's development and gets into trouble.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:

See, I would've found this incredibly smug and obnoxious.

It certainly would have been different, and probably not right for the character. Oh well, we still have Kiss Kiss Bang Bang.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
Clancy Charlock (the sister of the murdered skinhead) looked like the mom from Family Circus.

General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend
While we're on this topic, here's a promo for the book thought to be possibly narrated by Pynchon himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2daNrsfwDgY

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General Dog
Apr 26, 2008

Everybody's working for the weekend

Dacap posted:

That's hilarious that you make that comparison considering she's played by the porn star Belladonna.

brb need to get the wheels turning on my Family Circus XXX Parody (Family Circumference?)

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