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daslog posted:Snip What do you use for a launch monitor. I’m considering getting one, but want something pretty cheap, but can do ball flight.
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The Garmin Approach is very good and reasonably priced.
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Oodles posted:What do you use for a launch monitor. Garmin Approach R10 with a Titleist RCT golf ball. I only use it to work on swing path and face angle and it's done wonders for my stroke. I'm one of those people that needs immediate feedback so I can try to get the right feel. Note: The Approach will work fine without the RCT golf ball, but you get more precise spin measurements when you use it. Note 2: Make sure you have the minimum space requirements if you are going to use it indoors. I think it needs to be 6 to 8 feet behind the ball and and 8 feet from the ball to the net.
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Aggro posted:The Garmin Approach is very good and reasonably priced. I've seen them as low as $350 secondhand on facebook marketplace.
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Mar 29, 2024 00:31
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Space behind the ball is the second biggest killer of home golf sim dreams. The first (aside from maybe total cost) is ceiling height. I ended up grabbing a Skytrak for less than a grand as folks are upgrading to the new one. Not the unit you want for the range though.
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Mar 29, 2024 02:03
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I had never heard of “RCT” balls. Does it actually make a difference? I seem to get pretty consistent measurements just hitting buckets of random Callaways from a bulk purchase.
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Mar 29, 2024 04:27
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Aggro posted:I had never heard of “RCT” balls. Does it actually make a difference? I seem to get pretty consistent measurements just hitting buckets of random Callaways from a bulk purchase. Carl's place did some testing. https://www.carlofet.com/blog/are-titleist-pro-v1-rct-balls-worth-the-cost
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Mar 29, 2024 09:46
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9am tee. The three ball I'm sharing the time with no shows. Starter tells me there is a ten ball in front of me. 830 twosome, 840 four, 850 four, all booked together. I play 1, 2, 3, I skip 4, 5, 6, play 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, catch up to the back nine players, play 11 and 12 again (they are an up and back par 5, par 4), then 13, 14, 17, 18. It was surprisingly fun.
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Mar 29, 2024 21:45
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 New Bag, New Me. Also realized that my shafts on my 3w and Driver were significantly closer to X-Stiff than Stiff, and i'm more of a R-flex than a S-Flex sort of swing speed at the moment, so I ordered two new R-Flex Tensei AV Raw shafts that should hopefully help me not absolutely hate hitting 3w. I tried my buddies Qi10 3w he bought and i realized that even though his was an S-flex shaft, it felt wildly better to hit than my LTDx did, because it felt like i was swinging a tree trunk with my HZRDUS black shafts. Hopefully that helps out a lot as well.
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Mar 31, 2024 02:23
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Driver swing speed this year tops out at 97. Is it time to move to Regular flex shafts?
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so I just scheduled a 1.5h beginners fitting session that sorta doubles as a lesson. They'll help me figure out my basic measurements and will help me figure out if the clubs I have can be adjusted to my needs. Feels like something that will pay for itself by avoiding bad purchases and I'll see if they can help me with my existing elbow issues to make it more sustainable in the long run.
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Mar 31, 2024 15:00
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That honestly sounds like a fantastic idea, especially if you’re non-standard height/weight or have mobility issues.
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Mar 31, 2024 15:43
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Well, after being in physical therapy for over a month I decided to hit the range for the first time since October. Correctly assessed that I should only get a small bucket of balls, because despite my PT, my intercostal injury (we think at this point its my body tensing up incredibly tight in that area to try and protect it, rather than unhealed damage) flared up, but not too bad. I was hoping all the slow swing mechanics I had been practicing would translate to at least some benefit at the range, and was only partly correct. My ball contact and consistency are still rear end, but when I can put all the parts together correctly my shot has changed from a hard slice to a push draw, so at least my swing path has improved from the low speed practice. The push and the occasional block are coming more from not getting the clubface closed I reckon. Also measured my club's loft lie. Both are used sets I bought, the Honma TW-X's were all within half a degree of spec in all measurements. But the Onoff Kuro's I bought with s200 AMT White shafts were all three loving degrees strong, except the 4 iron which was bent four degrees strong, down to 18 degrees. It certainly explains at least some of my performance with those clubs. When I thought they were standard spec I was thinking I might bend them 2 weak, but now that I know they've been bent so strong, I think getting them back to standard spec is the most I could hope for without hosel damage. daslog posted:Driver swing speed this year tops out at 97. Is it time to move to Regular flex shafts? See my post about Flex measurement (its stuff you probably already know). 97 *in general* would be a stiff regular (project x 5.5 is a good example of this) or a mid to softer stiff (Honma shafts are a good example here, but also many others) but a lot of that is going to depend on your transition and tempo. Edit: iNteg posted:
Ogio Woode Hybrid is a goat bag design and the only reason I'm not running one is that I'm not playing a full 14 and I couldn't find one on a big sale.. As for your shaft situation, note that ProjectX shafts are usually on the stiff side of their rating, but that when you switch to another make, all bets are off, maybe a R Tensei is right, maybe an S Tensei would've been right, never know until you try. GEMorris fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Mar 31, 2024 |
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GEMorris posted:Ogio Woode Hybrid is a goat bag design and the only reason I'm not running one is that I'm not playing a full 14 and I couldn't find one on a big sale.. Played today with xsf, the bag was much nicer to use than my old bag. I’m a big fan. As for my shaft situation; my swing speed is strictly in the middle of a “regular” shaft. I did some looking and put my info into the Mitsubishi fitting tool, and they put me right into the r-flex blue shaft based on questions about my swing and miss; so I think it won’t be worse than what I have right now! I also desperately want a Qi10 7wood after hitting Xsf’s… it had an xflex shaft and I was still piping it pretty freaking well.
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Scheffler needs to like, do mescaline and play 72 holes using only a putter or something holy crap. It's fascinating watching him be so dominant everywhere else and just lock up on the greens.
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xsf421 posted:That honestly sounds like a fantastic idea, especially if you’re non-standard height/weight or have mobility issues. Yeah it looks like a good deal to me, at $150 it's 1.5h of trackman sim, lessons and fitting all in one. In DC any of those can be $150 or more by themselves. And yeah I am slightly nonstandard by having arms that are 1.5in longer than average and my fingers can almost loop around a standard size grip. That caused me a lot of hand cramps in my left hand from holding the club for too long. I noticed that If I just keep trying to figure things out by myself I'll just get hurt quite early on since I really like to put in 2-3 hours of swinging which might be another obsessive behavior problem in itself but that's for another specialist
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nerdz posted:I noticed that If I just keep trying to figure things out by myself I'll just get hurt quite early on since I really like to put in 2-3 hours of swinging which might be another obsessive behavior problem in itself but that's for another specialist Are you thoroughly stretching before every range session? Please do.
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nerdz posted:Yeah it looks like a good deal to me, at $150 it's 1.5h of trackman sim, lessons and fitting all in one. In DC any of those can be $150 or more by themselves. And yeah I am slightly nonstandard by having arms that are 1.5in longer than average and my fingers can almost loop around a standard size grip. That caused me a lot of hand cramps in my left hand from holding the club for too long. I noticed that If I just keep trying to figure things out by myself I'll just get hurt quite early on since I really like to put in 2-3 hours of swinging which might be another obsessive behavior problem in itself but that's for another specialist  6 feet tall playing extremely flat (60.5* lie on 7 iron) because of long arms. Mid/oversized grips are a lifesaver, too. I can't finish a round using standard grips without my hands giving out.
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GEMorris posted:Are you thoroughly stretching before every range session? Please do. I'm currently in Florida right besides an incredible driving range, one of those where you hit the real turf. Maybe I'll get some loaner clubs and hit a few balls.
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Saw my dad over easter and he passed on a few old golf books to me and one of them I think might actually be gold. Jack Nicklaus with Ken Bowden; Total Golf Techniques.  First published in a series of golf magazines in the 70s and then put into this book, which I believe is the second print in 1989:  And my god, the illustrations are absolutely wild. All hand drawn/painted images as this was all obviously done before computer imaging.    Page after page of this sort of thing, from address, to swings, to short game, to putting. Nearly 160 pages of illustrations and instructions. Absolutely fascinating stuff.
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 Misty mornings, finally not using the winter greens and winter tees. It’s glorious.  My free putter that I got 17 years ago has finally died. I also shot 98, with 44 putts. So your boy has finally cracked 100. Now to focus on no triple putts.
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Oodles posted:
congrats! sorry about the putter though. if only it broke before mattfl sold me his scotty, you could have bought it instead! Where were ya playing?
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Hey I still have a nice TM Spider X that I'd sell lol   
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iNteg posted:congrats! sorry about the putter though. if only it broke before mattfl sold me his scotty, you could have bought it instead! Hazlehead in Aberdeen Scotland. Just bought a second hand Odyssey Whitehot for £60, that’ll do me for now.
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Mechanics advice needed. Tee shot on 1, dead right. Tee shot on 2, dead right - approach on 2, dead right. Tee shot on 3, I tried to just close my loving hands, ball was straight, low and short - approach, dead right. Tee shot on 4, par 3, fine. Tee shot on 5, hitting driver, no adjustments, excellent. Made no adjustments for the rest of the round, normal shot pattern/distance. I did not hit slices nor fades, and they didn't feel like pushes normally feel. Short and right for the first 45 minutes, and this was after a small warm up bucket showed no similar issues before the round.
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A similar thing happens to me generally because of nerves, even in I warmup before the first few tee shots are pretty stressful. In that case I almost always come over the top and leave the face open, producing a big slice. Only hybrids like I was mentioning earlier in the thread I might even hit one off the toe. Taking my time and really trying to feel more of a inside to out swing path is what helps me moderate it from like -10 degrees of path in the out to more like -4 to -6 which is completely workable.
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Urethane posted:A similar thing happens to me generally because of nerves, even in I warmup before the first few tee shots are pretty stressful. In that case I almost always come over the top and leave the face open, producing a big slice. Only hybrids like I was mentioning earlier in the thread I might even hit one off the toe. Its the lack of any left to right movement that has me stymied. It's straight, short and dead right.
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Is the Callaway Edge set still considered the best option for its price point? Background: I haven’t played a ton of golf outside of Par-3s, but have hit a fair few buckets of balls. So I enjoy golf; I’m just not confident in how much time I’ll have to play regularly. My conundrum is I feel like I’m somewhere in between babbys first set of clubs and whatever the next level is. Used makes me nervous because I don’t know what I don’t know about model lineups. I went to the local golf shop and they suggested another path would be to pick up a fitted set of something like 5/7/9, wedge, 3w, putter and then build it out next year if I stick with it (assuming I would pick up the same model of irons etc). Their take was “you wouldn’t just buy a suit off the rack and expect it to fit.” yes, yes I would
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from my beginners experience their suggestion doesn't sound like a bad idea at all. starting with less but better fitting clubs should be a good way to go about it as you'll hardly ever use a full bag if you're starting out and definitely not a driver. That would also allow you to get higher end clubs, better shafts and grips etc. I'm in the same situation as you are. I'm planning to start out with like 6 clubs total, but I'll get the best grips and graphite shafts so I can avoid my current joint pain issues. I can probably do that at under $400 if I'm savvy enough.
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waffle enthusiast posted:Is the Callaway Edge set still considered the best option for its price point? Background: I haven’t played a ton of golf outside of Par-3s, but have hit a fair few buckets of balls. So I enjoy golf; I’m just not confident in how much time I’ll have to play regularly. My conundrum is I feel like I’m somewhere in between babbys first set of clubs and whatever the next level is. Used makes me nervous because I don’t know what I don’t know about model lineups. so, for minimal work, and a decent putter, that edge set is a completely legit set. lots of my friends have started with it, however with a little work and research you can get a great set that fits you better second hand for similar price. i know xsf421 has gotten a set of starter clubs for a friend for a good price, but i believe he was trolling for deals for a hot minute.
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waffle enthusiast posted:Is the Callaway Edge set still considered the best option for its price point? Background: I haven’t played a ton of golf outside of Par-3s, but have hit a fair few buckets of balls. So I enjoy golf; I’m just not confident in how much time I’ll have to play regularly. My conundrum is I feel like I’m somewhere in between babbys first set of clubs and whatever the next level is. Used makes me nervous because I don’t know what I don’t know about model lineups. Getting fitted for clubs when you've never really played before seems like a waste of money to me unless you're very tall/short or gangly/stubby armed and shaft lengths are an issue. I guess that's similar to the suit analogy. I'd imagine that getting fitted for individual clubs would be rather expensive too. You can always buy the Callaway box set and replace/add clubs here and there as you get more comfortable with your game or want to try something new. We all love to tinker but it might be nice to have a consistent set of clubs to start with as a baseline
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iNteg posted:so, for minimal work, and a decent putter, that edge set is a completely legit set. lots of my friends have started with it, however with a little work and research you can get a great set that fits you better second hand for similar price. This is my hobby. Really good deals can be had if you are patient and understand the scope of what a good match could be (or you're willing to buy from.golfpartnerusa during a sale or use a japan proxy buying service because no one discounts used clubs like the jdm market imo.) Shrapnig posted:Getting fitted for clubs when you've never really played before seems like a waste of money to me unless you're very tall/short or gangly/stubby armed and shaft lengths are an issue. I guess that's similar to the suit analogy. I'd imagine that getting fitted for individual clubs would be rather expensive too. This is pretty correct, its hard to fit to a swing that doesn't exist, and when you start you're so inconsistent and evolving with your swing mechanics (and speed) that "getting fit" is a game of roulette that you'll get something that still fits in 6 months. If you're trying to save money, I'd do the following 1. Get your height and wrist to floor measurements, then use this chart to see if standard works for you. 2. Buy a single iron from a used club shop of a length within 1/2" of what that chart says you should have for as cheap as possible. Ideally a 6 or 7 iron. If not the length you should be using, try to go shorter rather than longer. Ideally something between 95 and 120 gram shaft in regular or stiff flex and not a blade. 3. Take a lesson 4. When you can regularly hit your 6 or 7 iron, get your swing speed measured. If your range doesn't have launch monitors you can usually demo a club at a big box golf store and get this info. 5. For a swing speed of 75-83 mph with a 6 iron, target regular flex shafts. For 84-91 mph target stiff flex shafts. This is a very rough starting point so if you can try to get something mid or mid-high launching unless your ball path is comically high. So like NS Pro 950GH, AMT Black, KBS Tour or $-Taper Lite, Project X LZ, or Project X I/O 6. Find the best deal within your budget that already includes the shafts you are targeting. Bias towards larger sets that include a gap wedge if possible (make sure they made one for that set so you don't waste time looking for something that doesn't exist). I'd rather have a gap wedge than a 4 iron, as the gap wedge saves me from buying one more wedge, while a 4 iron goes unused for many players especially new ones. 7. Take more lessons 8. Check your lie using the sharpie method esp if you ball has a consistent directional flight. 9. Go get fit if there's something you or your instructor don't like about your irons other than loft/lie, if those are a problem find a shop and have them bent. Maybe this is helpful, if only it helps you buy and then sell less sets of irons than I did. If you want to buy a set without doing any of the above, then assuming a 35-45 year old male (o.g. goons) you should probably look for something in a "stiff regular" in NS Pro, 5.5 for project X, or R+ for KBS shafts, in the 95-110 weight range. Or something in a stiff that is known to play soft to flex label. Ill point to this set of fitting articles from Wishon if folks want to dive in more.
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Really appreciate the feedback. That seems to track with what I’m reading as well. Mostly I don’t want to over-spend on a speculative purchase, but I also don’t want to buy a not-great set of clubs that I’ll quickly outgrow if do wind up playing frequently. I figure a decent set of clubs should last a good long while, so I’m okay with spending a little bit to get something that’ll last.
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re: fitting I think for a beginner it's mostly about figuring out lengths, grip sizes and shaft material/flex, at least for me.I think the part where they figure out the head might be too much for beginners. A beginners set that really worked for me besides my failing elbows and big hands was the Callaway strata. the intro one has everything you need for like 250 on Amazon. that's cheap enough that you get all you need and you can just sell it used if you grow out of it. If you buy your stuff new from a golf shop I believe a few of them will do a simple fitting included in the cost of purchase. edit: another consideration after getting your clubs if you just go for off the rack. does it hurt to play? are your fingers getting tired and you lose grip strength after playing? does your back, shoulder, wrist or elbows hurt and it only gets worse? then off the rack is not for you, see what an instructor or fitter can suggest for you. nerdz fucked around with this message at 22:58 on Apr 2, 2024 |
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Often physical pains can be due to technique as much as equipment fit. Beginners can end up chasing ghosts without some help. The golf swing uses some muscles that most folks desk lifestyle does not actively exert. Old grips are often mistaken for grips that are too small as well. If you've got hand pain it could be due to inexperience (and using a death grip), old slick grips you are intuiting you need to grip harder on, or lastly- incorrectly sized grips. I have 99+ percentile large hands (no jokes plz) and I only run midsize. You can also build up a standard grip to midsize with tape. I won't malign folks their jumbo grips, and arthritic golfers really need them, but many are so heavy the end result it that you've added counterweights to your clubs (MOI and SW centric camps will argue forever about how much this actually matters to the swing, but it undeniably affects total weight.) Which, if you learn no club making or maintenance skills beside regripping, by god learn regripping. There are so many good cheap alternatives to big name grips on amazon and if you learn to do air compressor regripping it is painless.
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yeah, in my case I'm a very active callisthenics guy and the pains mostly come from that, the golf just made it worse. my swing technique issue is being bad at swinging and hitting the mats hard
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IDK the first time I did a "proper" golf swing using my body to produce the rotation, the sheer amount of forces going through my body surprised the hell out of me. The hip movement in opposition of the shoulder movement to load up the left shoulder and the coiling through the spine because of it feels really weird and unnerving. Doesn't surprise me how many people try to muscle it with shoulders and arms only.
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I feel like I swing with my butt because it is all sore the next day. That feeling of leading the down swing with the hips and then doing one coordinated movement is starting to feel like it takes a lot less raw power to do. and it's hurting a lot more when I hit the mat
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nerdz posted:I feel like I swing with my butt because it is all sore the next day. That feeling of leading the down swing with the hips and then doing one coordinated movement is starting to feel like it takes a lot less raw power to do. and it's hurting a lot more when I hit the mat Have you tried using a club instead?
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Got the golf net out today and had quite a fun time just hitting. It's kind of nice not to have to think about where it's landing. Every shot is a good shot unless you neck it and miss the net entirely. I think the only way I'd actually learn anything useful is if I had a launch monitor, but it's nice to just practice my tempo.
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