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inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

ZDar Fan posted:

Oh no, P&R is turning into Day by Day!

(I hope for y'all's sake that no one gets that reference)

I hate the fact that I thought the exact same thing

Also, Jorma Taccone is showing up in the wrong show by Goor and Schur :argh:

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inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Carlosologist posted:

Dr. Richard Nygard has to make an appearance this season. But I really can't wait to see if Ann and Chris come back, that's my one hope for the season

The best would be if Nygard were played by Rob Lowe too.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Pope Guilty posted:

I previously found him annoying and grating, but I think he's great this season.

Craig was like the Saperstein twins in that he was good for a joke or two every few episodes, but couldn't be overused. It's good that they rehabbed his character so it wasn't too easy to overplay him.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Tom is funny because he's a caricature of what older generations think of millenials.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Zedd posted:

Both mark and early s3 Ben+chris (when he didnt show his fun side as leslie would say) would be too much but outside of that mark was fine.

This season is laááckiiÍng a saperstein though so far.

Mark was boring as dirt, and P&R making a romance arc between the two straight man characters for so long was a pretty serious drag on every character involved.

Even before they started to beat on the "Ben is a giant nerd" drum and completely got rid of Mark, Ben was a much better replacement straight man.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

whatever7 posted:

Mark has never had any funny happened to him. He doesn't bounce off any funny gag either, his soft body automatically sucked all the funny jokes away.

The only joke he had was when he went to Andy and complained about Ann's crash on that lawyer guy.

Mark's primary problem was that he was the straight man in a show that didn't need a straight man.

I get the sense they were trying to recreate Jim from The Office without quite understanding why Jim worked. In a show where two of the leads are so disconnected from reality that they would be dead in real life, you need Jim as the sane guy that viewers can relate to. The problem is that Mark doesn't exist in a show where everyone manages to hold down jobs in spite of being insane; he exists in a show where everyone succeeds at their jobs because they're insane.

Just about every P&R character's greatest strength is also their greatest flaw, depending on the situation. This means that the straight man role rotates between characters depending on the plot, leaving nothing for normal guy Mark to do. Then you drop him in a relationship with the other moderately normal character, and you've got a story arc that does nothing but bore the piss out of the audience.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Ann worked because she was the straight woman to the main character.

But if Ann had been axed and Mark given room to grow, it's possible he could have been developed into a likeable character too.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Hulk Hogan on the propaganda poster, signed picture of Alf, and Brandi Maxxx somehow being the star of a gay porn

I love this show so much

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

Pick posted:

Oh my god I found Chris and Mark so boring I forgot which was which :v:.

Chris is the best character you take that back right now :mad:

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
I can't be the only one who wants to see Jim O'Heir's audition for the part of Ron.

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
I really liked Judah Friedlander's Dwight, but then you watch Rainn Wilson's audition and it completely blows everything else out of the water.

Apparently, Krasinski was supposed to audition as Dwight too. Trying to even imagine that is just :psyduck:

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Brooklyn Nine-Nine is very much the obvious choice. Same creators, quite a few of the characters have strong similarities to the P&R crew (watching Rosa and Holt talk to each other is like an alternate universe of April and Ron), and the acting is superb.

Better Off Ted is indeed a gem, though. Since it was an ABC show, it's very much on the light-hearted side of sitcom writing. It actually very much manages to be "Dilbert, but funny"

inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!

EL BROMANCE posted:

I used to love Scrubs, but I think it managed to make enough bad episodes that sullied my opinion of it and I can't remember the last time I thought I should watch an episode of it.

S3E14 (My Screw Up) is one of the best episodes of any sitcom ever and is always worth rewatching. Musical episode was a lot of fun too.

I really enjoyed Scrubs when I watched it, but I'm actually kind of afraid to go back to it to see how it's aged. I have a suspicion that there's only so many "JD is effeminate haw haw" jokes in a row that the show can really deliver.

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inthesto
May 12, 2010

Pro is an amazing name!
Brooklyn Nine-Nine (also a Michael Schur show) is really loving good and I can't say enough good things about it, but The Good Place is still a better first season

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