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rabidsquid posted:I think that using the data to drive a point is misguided at best and misleading at worst, but using it to examine what we think we already know can be helpful. I hate to sound like old timey baseball scout here but sometimes you just need to watch the games!!! An example that will be meaningless to most people in this thread of this is England at the Cricket world cup earlier this year, where their data had them believe a par score while batting was significantly lower than the actual par scores that were posted during the tournament. They got hammered and knocked out at the group stage, and their coach's immediate reaction was "We have to look at the data." It's kind of impressive how the overreliance on stats ended up completely destroying their campaign given that they were seeded first for the event.
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The problem with stats here is that you are likely mixing distributions. Take lane swaps for example. They are likely going to affect your kda, cs, and objectives in a meaningful manner. You either treat them as a different distribution with the same sample sizes to see if they are different, or you lump them with the non swap games, but play more games so you can actually apply the central limit theorem. We're taking a middle of the road approach here, which is not good. It's why you can apply sabermetrics to baseball and basketball, but not football. There are more to stats than just taking the average. Libertine may be able to back me up here.
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OGN Champions rosters announced! Not too many major changes; GE is now the KOO Tigers, got Wisdom from IM ( a meh pickup). Picaboo has a wrist injury so is MIA. Jin Air got a new mid sub. Samsung has 3 mids listed, surprisingly. Newly qualified Prime is now called Sbenu, and has a mid called 'do it'. Cant wait for Doa to riff on that.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the laneswapping this season was primarily a tool of C9 and TSM. I don't think it was a common strategy for other teams. I may be wrong, but I don't think it's any better to assume there was constant laneswappin going on.
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Lane swaps became so frequent as to be commented on when they didn't happen.
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Jayisspecial posted:Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the laneswapping this season was primarily a tool of C9 and TSM. I don't think it was a common strategy for other teams. I may be wrong, but I don't think it's any better to assume there was constant laneswappin going on.
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i wonder what roccat steve will be like. why do french people only play top lane? there's this guy, soaz, cabochard, the champion renekton.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFlPYim-SUc
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Well, top is the most complained-about lane and the French have always enjoyed a good wine...
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Forg1ven made a post about his past present and future. Unlike link it doesn't seem to burn any bridges in an obvious fashion
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I don't think anyone noted it already, but Nien will be starting for T8 after Week 2 (they wanted him for the whole season but were late on paperwork). Calitrolz on why the change is happening: quote:We play about 8 times more scrims than what we show on LCS stage. It was voted unanimously in favor of Nien, not only because of performance issue, but also attitude issue approaching the game. Maple sometimes became too emotional about the game, which in turn made Dodo and Maple unwilliing to duo. They only practiced handful duo queue entire year we've been on a team despite our request to do so. We never went into game saying, Let cali get all the kills and farms and he will carry. Not even 1% close to that. I'm very willing to give my farm and kills to my ADC if I can trust he can perform with the gold given. Currently I have a lot more faith in Nien (given our few scrim experience and positivity and better communication he brings to the team). Unfortunate to bench Maple but it was not a easy decision for the team. It was our first proactive roster change ever since our Challenger days.
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That's the same complaint Maple's last team had about him. Some people don't change. Maple will be ugly forever.
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Beauty is only skin deep but being an unwashed troll goes straight to the core. RIP maple
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LCK Champions Summer hype!!! NaJin vs Anarchy and Samsung vs Sbenu starting in a few minutes
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Najin making Anarchy look good here, somehow.
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Is the format the same as last split, just with 2 extra teams, so every single team plays 8-12 games more? Because drat, that's gonna be really long
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Somebody needs to save Duke from Naijin. He looks like he could be on a top 4 Korean team.
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 both of these teams are so bad, jeeze: Najin were about 2-3k up and all of a sudden are down 5k. Nice job guys
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Allyn posted:
Speaking of Samsung. I love how scrappy they are, and watching all 5 of them slowly gather into a brush one by one and get blown up almost immediately is one of my favorite moments in LCK last season. Forever the underdogs.
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Allyn posted:
Anarchy looks pretty good for a team straight out of challenger with no support staff. They were better without CVmax's ridiculous picks too. Still, Najin, wtf.
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http://www.dailydot.com/esports/alphadraft-seed-venture-capital/ David Stern jumping into e-sports (even if it's just at an investment level) is pretty weird and hilarious.
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Some guy's LPL roster post on Twitter (not sure how reliable it is): Note the OMG row lol. Xiyang top?!
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Save isn't listed as an Invictus sub. Does this mean he's been freed from China jail?
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Jenny Angel posted:Save isn't listed as an Invictus sub. Does this mean he's been freed from China jail? He's apparently now on their B team, Young Glory, and will play in the Chinese second tier 
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does that count as freeing from jail or as double jail
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Redmark posted:does that count as freeing from jail or as double jail Definitely double jail Edit: HE WAS THE BEST TOPLANER IN THE WORLD :madness:
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Sexpansion posted:Definitely double jail https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmeCru4n0yg
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May 20, 2015 18:50
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http://www.dailydot.com/esports/papasmithy-ogn-broadcast/ So OGN is moving to a four day broadcast to account for the new teams, meaning Papasmithy and DoA are going to split casting duties
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What does ESL even do regularly in Korea, though? I don't see why they wouldn't let him keep doing stuff for OGN. I guess we'll see. e: I mean do stuff for OGN on loan, like they let Joe Miller do. Zwingley fucked around with this message at 22:05 on May 20, 2015 |
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 My new favorite support in Europe.
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Zwingley posted:What does ESL even do regularly in Korea, though? I don't see why they wouldn't let him keep doing stuff for OGN. Chobra is moving to the US for ESL
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Hypocrisy posted:
Riot made him change his tag from Promiscuous, right?
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Corey Feldman circa the 1980s joined Elements?
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Jerkface posted:Chobra is moving to the US for ESL Ah. My mistake, then!
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Hypocrisy posted:
WHAT ELEMENT IS HE ALIGNED TO. P/LEASE I ENED to know
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Yuran M. Bazil posted:http://www.dailydot.com/esports/papasmithy-ogn-broadcast/ Man, what the gently caress. That's straight up 20% less DoA for this split. 
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