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Butt Wizard
Nov 3, 2005

It was a pornography store. I was buying pornography.

down n out posted:

So, has everest been dumbed down by so many sherpas and ropes that it's basically extreme hiking? That Canadian lady looked like she was in slow motion even on the practice climbs and she still managed to summit.

Extreme hiking where you are dying every second you spend past a certain height, yea.

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Cuntpunch
Oct 3, 2003

A monkey in a long line of kings

Gringo Heisenberg posted:

OP your youtube playlist is missing the best climbing documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2XJT9NP1E

What can go wrong? Oh gently caress I broke my leg on top of the mountain and now my friend needs to slowly lower me down bit by bit. Oh gently caress now it's storming. Oh gently caress now he lowered me over a ledge and we're stuck sitting like this cause he can't see cause the storm and doesn't know. Oh gently caress he cut the rope. Oh gently caress I've fallen into a deep crevasse and my friend thinks I'm dead and left. Oh gently caress my legs are messed up and I can't get up. Might as well go down further. Oh great I found the way out but now I have to crawl for (I think it was 2 days?) over a bunch of hidden crevasses.

A dude who fell into a crevasse 70 feet down but landed on a ledge and climbed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4TWYoJIc8

Touching the Void is one of the most amazing stories ever.

For you NPR folks out there, apparently they still have available an old story about an Everest expedition they covered back in '88: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4581895 Giving this a listen it isn't the full extent of the reporting they did, but just some recordings made by their reporter trying to keep up with the climbers. For a taste of how much fun climbing Everest really is.

Cuntpunch fucked around with this message at 01:48 on Jan 14, 2015

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

Cuntpunch posted:

Touching the Void is one of the most amazing stories ever.

For you NPR folks out there, apparently they still have available an old story about an Everest expedition they covered back in '88: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4581895

Yeah Touching the Void! Imagine crawling to what is possibly going to be your death with this stuck in your head.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GiX2PbrBXCQ

Ars Arcanum
Jan 20, 2005

Best friends make the best weapons

ThePutty posted:

i wonder if there's some sort of academic document explaining exactly what drives people to think climbing everest is going to improve their lives or is even a good idea

If you read Krakauer's books, he goes into this quite a bit. It's been a while since I read his books, but I remember that he talks about a particular ascent he made (I think of Devil's Thumb), especially in Into the Wild (which is actually about Chris McCandless' ill-fated trip to Alaska rather than about mountaineering). He describes how during a rough patch in his life, he hoped that ascending this challenging mountain and standing on the razor-thin summit would give him some greater sense of clarity and personal actualization, and help him solve the issues he was having.

It didn't.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





http://www.startribune.com/nation/288439021.html

The two dudes climbing Yosemite are almost at the top. Cool and safe climbing is just as impressive!

Chard
Aug 24, 2010




SaltLick posted:

http://www.startribune.com/nation/288439021.html

The two dudes climbing Yosemite are almost at the top. Cool and safe climbing is just as impressive!

Oh man I forgot about these guys! They've already been at it for like two weeks or something, and there's a pair of Nat Geo film dudes climbing with them so we'll get some pretty amazing videos at some point.

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

SaltLick posted:

http://www.startribune.com/nation/288439021.html

The two dudes climbing Yosemite are almost at the top. Cool and safe climbing is just as impressive!

Its way more impressive then someone paying a whole bunch of money to role the dice on becoming a popsicle

Bro Nerd Alpha
Aug 27, 2012

going on pussy patrol
If I ever end up with a terminal illness I am going to die on Everest.

Bob James
Nov 15, 2005

by Lowtax
Ultra Carp
I'm going to Everest's summit and this is how I will get there:

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Bro Nerd Alpha posted:

If I ever end up with a terminal illness I am going to die on Everest.

you wont burden your family with insane funeral costs, and you'll be preserved forever. probaly even a wikipedia entry. win win

BONE DOG
Jun 7, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Xaris posted:

you wont burden your family with insane funeral costs, and you'll be preserved forever. probaly even a wikipedia entry. win win

I would climb into a crevasse that's both highly visible and impossible to get out of and die proudly with my dick in my hand wearing a birthday hat

Bro Nerd Alpha
Aug 27, 2012

going on pussy patrol
I'd do a kickstarter to fund the trip and leave a nest egg for family. Set tiers, top being I'd hold up a custom sign from any group and have their logo all over. Who the gently caress would bother to erase/change it and my next of kin would have a nice lump sum.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





Bob James posted:

I'm going to Everest's summit and this is how I will get there:



Make a big enough impact so K2 becomes the tallest

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





just thought it would be kinda crazy is someone brought a grenade to the summit and murdered everyone there. hell of a way to go

Kakarot
Jul 20, 2013

by zen death robot
Buglord

Rondette posted:



Here is the page I got the Sharp image from, with quite a few other Everest casualties images. Some are pretty :nms:
http://altereddimensions.net/2012/dead-bodies-on-mount-everest

One of the bodies is the first person to ever attempt it in 1924.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

Zeike posted:

One of the bodies is the first person to ever attempt it in 1924.

he was a fuckin historical hottie too

kickstarter to snap his dead frigid dick off and make a cast of it for folk to enjoy worldwide

hailthefish
Oct 24, 2010

Pick posted:

he was a fuckin historical hottie too

kickstarter to snap his dead frigid dick off and make a cast of it for folk to enjoy worldwide

I dunno. It's pretty cold up there.. :flaccid:

Bro Nerd Alpha
Aug 27, 2012

going on pussy patrol
I propose a new idea. Everyone who has reached the summit successfully can apply to be a sherpa. Then we can have a bunch of douches competing for who can out extreme each other. "first genderqueer, double amputee ADHD lesbian republican, rookie sherpa, lost on second trip with group of 12"

Last Chance
Dec 31, 2004

Rondette posted:

Yeah sorry bud, I had no idea you had started one, and I had to keep my Everest fix going!

Added yours to the OP. I'll get round to posting some pics of and from my books tomorrow....

lol no worries, i'm juist happy to see this horrific mountain death thread back and active. it's one of my favorites on the board.

Parts Kit posted:

This was posted in the tail end of the last thread and it's an amazing read. It's about the last dive of David Shaw, when he attempted to recover the body of Deon Dreyer from a 800+ foot deep underwater cave.

http://www.outsideonline.com/adventure-travel/africa/south-africa/Raising-the-Dead.html

and this was a good read that i enjoyed from the last thread. the whole thing seems dumb when you look at the big picture but i couldnt stop reading it.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost
I tend to just lurk this thread but goddamn it's a thrill

raditts
Feb 21, 2001

The Kwanzaa Bot is here to protect me.



The sign says "STOP" but the picture of the reaper says "c'mon guy, it's cool there's room for one more"

Mixed messages on that sign, man.

Pick
Jul 19, 2009
Nap Ghost

mookface posted:

The Canadian lady's story is hilarious.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/m/episodes/2012-2013/into-the-death-zone

Here is a link to a documentary about it. She was a loving idiot.

good loving lord

everest shouldn't be your first loving mountain

Bishop
Aug 15, 2000

raditts posted:

The sign says "STOP" but the picture of the reaper says "c'mon guy, it's cool there's room for one more"

Mixed messages on that sign, man.
im a cave diver.... I Go past those signs in virtually every cave (in reality they mark the end of the "light zone" and the start of the actual cave system with up to miles of laid and maintained guideline. It's a sign that scares away people, but if youre trained you go past it and thats really where the dive starts. Death is close to certain if you aren't a cave diver though (takes lots of specialized training and equipment), and even then death is surprisingly possible!

Bishop fucked around with this message at 07:55 on Jan 14, 2015

Internet Kraken
Apr 24, 2010

slightly amused

Rondette posted:

Yeah Touching the Void! Imagine crawling to what is possibly going to be your death with this stuck in your head.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GiX2PbrBXCQ

I watched that documentary and was horrified most of the time but still laughed when the guy said "bloody hell I'm gonna die to Boney M".

Really though I found it very interesting. I mean from the description of the whole ordeal you'd think the worst part would be falling on the mountain and barely escaping death. Then you have to watch this guy crawl for days across snow and dirt as his body gets torn up in the process. He's not just physically destroyed but also mentally because he's spent days alone going through torture for what he realizes is a hopeless escape attempt.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Gringo Heisenberg posted:

OP your youtube playlist is missing the best climbing documentary:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hc2XJT9NP1E

What can go wrong? Oh gently caress I broke my leg on top of the mountain and now my friend needs to slowly lower me down bit by bit. Oh gently caress now it's storming. Oh gently caress now he lowered me over a ledge and we're stuck sitting like this cause he can't see cause the storm and doesn't know. Oh gently caress he cut the rope. Oh gently caress I've fallen into a deep crevasse and my friend thinks I'm dead and left. Oh gently caress my legs are messed up and I can't get up. Might as well go down further. Oh great I found the way out but now I have to crawl for (I think it was 2 days?) over a bunch of hidden crevasses.

A dude who fell into a crevasse 70 feet down but landed on a ledge and climbed out
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZ4TWYoJIc8

Joe Simpson is a crevasse wanker

e: when i was 11 we went to canada and my dad decided it was a good idea to walk on glacier in a heatwave. I nearly slipped and fell into a crevasse

a pipe smoking dog fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Jan 14, 2015

Torka
Jan 5, 2008

Bishop posted:

Death is close to certain if you aren't a cave diver though (takes lots of specialized training and equipment), and even then death is surprisingly possible!

not surprisingly

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Last Chance posted:

OP, can you add this previous thread to your list:

2015 thread

im not mad, i just want some acknowlegdgement, thanks in advance

Thank you for helping to keep me sane for another year. :peanut: :cheers:

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer
ha, I'd forgotten about that. Fair play to him for seeing the funny side.

OK so here is my current library of books-


I haven't gotten round to reading the Bear Grylls one, the Graham Hoyland one, the James Ballard one and am halfway through the John Hunt one. I also have 'Touching the Void' but have lent it to a friend. If there are any of the others here that I've read that you want to know more about let me know, also any recommendations!

The Mountaineers book has some excellent old photos in it which I will share with you , I won't dump them all in this post but try and have some sort of theme for each set. We'll start with Badasses from history-



George Mallory


Hanging out with a smoke.


Chillin


A pipe is an essential part of any Alpinists gear.


Lookin sharp guys!

Rondette fucked around with this message at 13:27 on Jan 14, 2015

midnightclimax
Dec 3, 2011

by XyloJW

Bob James posted:

I'm going to Everest's summit and this is how I will get there:



There was a british guy whose plan was to crash-land on Everest, and then walk the rest to the top. Of course he had neither experience in flying nor climbing.

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

Rondette posted:

A pipe is an essential part of any Alpinists gear.

That story about George Mallory scaling an unclimbable cliff because he'd forgotten his pipe and no-one being able to figure out how he did it.

My grandma taught Mallory's children piano, though I think it was several years after he had died.

Grisly Grotto
Jun 17, 2003

Are sure you should fight tonight? You don't look well.

The-Mole posted:

That's a pretty poo poo belay job

pff, a little slack isn't a big deal

her footwork though, woefully bad

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

a pipe smoking dog posted:

That story about George Mallory scaling an unclimbable cliff because he'd forgotten his pipe and no-one being able to figure out how he did it.

My grandma taught Mallory's children piano, though I think it was several years after he had died.

haha, that is amazing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Mallory#Robert_Graves.27_tale_of_Mallory.27s_Pipe

quote:

"My friend George Mallory .... once did an inexplicable climb on Snowdon. He had left his pipe on a ledge, half-way down one of the Liwedd precipices, and scrambled back by a short cut to retrieve it, then up again by the same route. No one saw what route he took, but when they came to examine it the next day for official record, they found an overhang nearly all the way. By a rule of the Climbers' Club climbs are never named in honour of their inventors, but only describe natural features. An exception was made here. The climb was recorded as follows : 'Mallory's Pipe, a variation on route 2 ; see adjoining map. This climb is totally impossible. It has been performed once, in failing light, by Mr G. H. L. Mallory.'".[58]

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





midnightclimax posted:

There was a british guy whose plan was to crash-land on Everest, and then walk the rest to the top. Of course he had neither experience in flying nor climbing.

Yea but I imagine he believed in himself so he was perfectly qualified.

When is someone going to climb with a pressurized suit? Have a long hose from camp 4 and be fine

a pipe smoking dog
Jan 25, 2010

"haha, dogs can't smoke!"

I kind of like the believe he got to the top before he died because he comes off as the sort of person who would manage it, though I agree with Hillary that it isn't a success unless you can come back down (take that dead canadian lady).

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Pick posted:

good loving lord

everest shouldn't be your first loving mountain

But it was her dream!

Seriously though, her husband must've been a weak willed piece of poo poo to just agree and let her spend $50-60k just so she can climb the world's tallest mountain even though she has literally zero experience. There's comprising in marriages and then there's "gently caress no I will not be a party to your death wish". That he didn't even fight her on it and tell her to climb some other smaller mountains first means he was either as dumb as her or completely cowed by her.

Really, 15 minutes on the internet would tell you that people die on Everest every year, and some of them are expert climbers who just get hit with bad luck. But this poo poo

quote:

The Torontonian had long dreamed of reaching the 8,848-metre summit. With no climbing experience, she paid Utmost Adventure Trekking, a company that she learned of through family in Nepal, almost $40,000 to guide her.

During her training, Shah-Klorfine had to be taught almost everything, including how to put crampons on her boots.

"If she wanted something there was nothing you could say to stop her," he (her husband) added. "She was very strong-willed, you could say Type A."

But Shah-Klorfine was using a lot more oxygen than other climbers due to the fact that she kept it flowing at a high rate, began using it earlier in her climb than most and spent a longer time on the mountain.

is just someone given the rope to hang their self and eagerly jumping into the noose.

Now that Nepal has slashed the price of the climbing license by 50% or higher you're going to get even more people who lack a fundamental knowledge of mountain climbing and think that a few months in the gym and a few weeks with the Sherpas will get them to the summit effortlessly.

Rondette
Nov 4, 2009

Your friendly neighbourhood Postie.



Grimey Drawer

pentyne posted:



Now that Nepal has slashed the price of the climbing license by 50% or higher you're going to get even more people who lack a fundamental knowledge of mountain climbing and think that a few months in the gym and a few weeks with the Sherpas will get them to the summit effortlessly.


Bad for them, good for schadenfreude and this thread.

a mysterious cloak
Apr 5, 2003

Leave me alone, dad, I'm with my friends!


pentyne posted:

Seriously though, her husband must've been a weak willed piece of poo poo to just agree and let her spend $50-60k just so she can climb the world's tallest mountain even though she has literally zero experience. There's comprising in marriages and then there's "gently caress no I will not be a party to your death wish". That he didn't even fight her on it and tell her to climb some other smaller mountains first means he was either as dumb as her or completely cowed by her.

Why do you think she married him?

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

pentyne posted:

But it was her dream!

Seriously though, her husband must've been a weak willed piece of poo poo to just agree and let her spend $50-60k just so she can climb the world's tallest mountain even though she has literally zero experience. There's comprising in marriages and then there's "gently caress no I will not be a party to your death wish". That he didn't even fight her on it and tell her to climb some other smaller mountains first means he was either as dumb as her or completely cowed by her.

every time he thought about arguing her out of it he'd go to the file cabinet, find the life insurance policy, thumb through it and count to ten

I'm Crap
Aug 15, 2001
i'm fairly sure whoever at the insurance company handled that claim googled her name, found one of these threads, and then dunked the claim form into the basura laughin'

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Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.

a pipe smoking dog posted:

I kind of like the believe he got to the top before he died because he comes off as the sort of person who would manage it, though I agree with Hillary that it isn't a success unless you can come back down (take that dead canadian lady).

I remember reading many times that it was unlikely Mallory made it to the top because the second step (on the North approach) is considered far too difficult of a climb for someone of his level of skill. It is only typically possible today with the use of ladders. Even though the last eye witness who saw them alive claims they were just above the second step.

This story kinda makes you wonder.

It is really steep. I am sure it would be a difficult climb even at sea level in ideal conditions.



But Conrad Anker, the guy who found Mallory's body, apparently free soloed it in 2007 using period 1924 gear. I guess its just another one of those things the internet can argue about forever just for the hell of it.

Edit: Oh. This was all laid out in the wiki just above where it was linked too. Oh well.

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