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You have all shamed the spirits of your ancestors and will not be welcomed into Valhalla
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lmao is there really moral outrage because someone fed someone else something they didnt like the taste of
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Feb 9, 2015 20:44
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Actually upon some thought I can understand the gravity of this accusation, if one were to eat a food they didn't enjoy, they're at severe risk of making a face and saying, "This doesn't taste good." This is no different to similar non-consensual acts such as cramming bread down a celiacs throat or spiking a drink with hard liquor and/or drugs.
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Feb 9, 2015 20:49
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Any form of addiction is bad with money and bad for your health. /thread
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Feb 10, 2015 03:21
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Short version: no appeal. I have tried alcohol, and consistently found it tastes foul. I don’t understand why anyone would want to be drunk either. It just feels like making myself weaker and stupider and generally less capable. I think the only real psychological factor is that anything that lowers my inhibitions is unwelcome; I was abused as a child, and I lived in fear of the abused-becomes-abuser cycle, although now that I am no longer so afraid (I’m confident it will never happen now) I still see no reason to indulge. For any kind of recreational drug in general. What is the benefit? I hear there is a buzz/high or whatever vague term you might want to use, which I might not remember afterwards. A few hours later that ‘benefit’ is gone, but I would still be paying the costs afterwards (whether having less money for the week, or whatever else). Alright, I drink tea (British), and have a bit of a caffeine addiction. For me, it depends on your view of fun. I like to read a book, watch a movie, learn new things, I like to train with swords and wear suits of medieval armour to my university campus (all things best done while sober…). I guess it depends on your personal need for stimulation. I just don’t find drink or drugs rewarding. Regarding sex, I do have a rule: committed/steady relationships only. Promiscuity just does not appeal to me in the real world, and if it is just a fantasy there is an entire video and photography related industry that allows people to safely enjoy their fantasies separately from the real world. I also consciously reject the culture that encourages the pursuit of sex. I think the idea that someone needs to be sexually active (virgin-shaming, “can’t get laid” as an insult, the usual) is off-putting to me, I regard it as unhealthy, and I think it is perhaps one of the worst reasons to have sex. If people enjoy the sex for its own sake, that’s their business, but I think our culture kind of indoctrinates people to feel a need for sex (usually as a substitute for something else) that is not in their best interests. As mentioned, if the issue is just sexual release, there’s a video/photograph-based industry to help with that. If the issue is loneliness, then using sexual attention is a substitute is just a temporary way of numbing pain – and that can get in the way of finding happiness, or it can mask the problems in your life that really need dealing with. Overall, sex-culture or drinking-culture does not have my best interests at heart.
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Feb 11, 2015 12:58
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I thought it was a masterful troll but then I checked his post history.
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Feb 11, 2015 13:30
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I like a drink when I'm around people but drinking alone or drinking because you are bored seems super dumb to me, that's why god invented 
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Feb 11, 2015 14:23
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I never understood the problem with drinking alone. Frankly, when I'm having a glass or two of wine with dinner alone, it's much more responsible (and, dare I say, enjoyable if you count the after-effects) than getting shitfaced with my friends, or with random strangers. If you're getting sloppy drunk by yourself, yeah, that's a bit of a problem if it's happening regularly.
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Feb 11, 2015 15:31
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Personally, I don't see the point in having, for arguments sake, 2 beers or 2 glasses of wine or whatever. Either go big or go home.
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Feb 11, 2015 16:18
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FINGERBLASTER69 posted:When I was in high school one of my dads friends told me that he didn't like beer until he was doing construction. He'd been working all day and it was hotter than a hookers rear end after the rodeo. Anyhow, it was lunchtime and one of his coworkers gave him an ice cold beer. And drat if that wasn't the best drink he'd ever had in his life. Same thing happened to me. Sometimes the right situation can make something fun. One of the reasons I don't care for alcohol is that it makes me feel uncomfortably warm and stuffy even in pretty small amounts, so this probably wouldn't do it for me. Then again, I guess most of my better drinking experiences have been when it's loving cold out, so I guess that makes some degree of sense. Railtus posted:For any kind of recreational drug in general. What is the benefit? I hear there is a buzz/high or whatever vague term you might want to use, which I might not remember afterwards. A few hours later that ‘benefit’ is gone, but I would still be paying the costs afterwards (whether having less money for the week, or whatever else). What's the point of doing anything? Doing blackout levels of drugs is probably pretty bad with life in general but I've seen my share of forgettable books and movies, which were probably a bigger waste of time and money than blowing the occasional evening getting high (or drunk, if that's your preference.)
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Feb 11, 2015 16:42
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Ramagamma posted:Personally, I don't see the point in having, for arguments sake, 2 beers or 2 glasses of wine or whatever. Either go big or go home. Good alcoholic beverages taste good. If I just wanted to get pisstanked, I'd drink straight vodka. It's also nice to have a one- or two-drink buzz and enjoy it while not stumbling around and slurring your words like a moron; as well, you feel so much better the next day.
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Feb 11, 2015 23:10
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I don't indulge in alcohol, tobacco, or drugs. Just never had the desire or curiosity. The alcohol part is due to an abusive alcoholic father. That and watching my friends in high school get drunk and become goofy idiots. For years, whenever I told people I didn't drink (only when they asked), the first response was almost always that I was lying. Why would I lie about it?  Other responses were that I was just a big wimpy pussy who couldn't handle it and, my favorite, that I thought was better than everybody else.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:30
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I've never personally met anyone who was judgmental when I said I didn't drink, but everyones first response always seems to be "You don't drink? Ohhhhh god, what happened? What did you do?". Interesting in that in most peoples minds, the sole reason for not drinking is you were once a raging drunk that rolled your car over a bunch of kids in the park.
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Feb 12, 2015 00:39
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I'm watching products of the video/photograph-based industry right now 
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Feb 12, 2015 10:32
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Railtus posted:I also consciously reject the culture that encourages the pursuit of sex. I think the idea that someone needs to be sexually active (virgin-shaming, “can’t get laid” as an insult, the usual) is off-putting to me, I regard it as unhealthy, and I think it is perhaps one of the worst reasons to have sex. If people enjoy the sex for its own sake, that’s their business, but I think our culture kind of indoctrinates people to feel a need for sex (usually as a substitute for something else) that is not in their best interests. Firstly, thanks for sharing your story and point of view I agree with you that society pushes Doing Sex as an activity that you are broken if you don't want 24/7 and that that is pretty unrealistic or silly. But the physical desire to engage in coitus is certainly something nearly every healthy mammal is born with, and jerking off to porn really isn't the same as doing sex. It seems a bit like saying "the desire to eat meat daily is just consumer pressure and anyone who needs more protein can buy whey supplements," to me.
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Feb 12, 2015 15:54
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Im far from a teetotaler, but have been only allowing myself one drink per day for the past month or so. Not drinking every day, but if i do it is one. I enjoy the effects of 1-3 drinks, normally beer, but its that 3rd drink that puts me into the "i could be drunker" mindset. For me the first inhibition i lose is to stop ordering/making drinks. I also like pot better than alcohol, both in how i feel and how it makes me act. It doesn't have the same "reward" for doing more, i find at a certain point you stop getting higher, and need to let the effects wear off before it is worthwhile to smoke again. It is easy for me to load one pipe and take a hit or two, put it down and go about my day, rinse, repeat, and make the thing last all day. If i buy a six pack, i will more than likely drink it, keep getting drunker, and always feel like i could be drunker, maybe even walk to the gas station for another. Well that got a little off topic, but that is why i am drifting towards abstaining from alcohol
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Feb 12, 2015 18:21
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om nom nom posted:
This, this, a million times this. I've got a handful of friends who buy themselves some pot and then chain smoke it until it's gone in a matter of days. I'm talking like £50 worth of grass smoked in 3 days. Its mind boggling that people do that to me, I'll buy myself a quarter, maybe have a smoke every night after work and then a couple of bongs throughout the day at the weekend. And even then I'm finding it more enjoyable since my regular guy is now 20 miles away so I'm forced into the occasional break rather than buying more as soon as I'm out.
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Feb 12, 2015 18:25
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Gabriel Pope posted:Some people have different ideas of what fun is? I stopped drinking last year. Medical science has apparently now decided that there are no health benefits at all, it costs money and it's not a particularly pleasant experience, beyond maybe half a glass of wine or a half pint of beer. Also, as you get older the threshold for unpleasant hangover plummets rapidly in the direction of "any alcohol". There hasn't really been a downside. 
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Feb 12, 2015 18:31
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Arnold of Soissons posted:Firstly, thanks for sharing your story and point of view You’re welcome. It’s an interesting topic. Before I comment further, most of what I have to say relates to a single lifestyle, and I have not been single for roughly 7 years. As I understand it, sex outside of a stable relationship typically involves things I consider major turn-offs. Hook-ups usually involve clubs/bars, places I find stressful due to noise and crowds, and has a high chance of the person being intoxicated, which is a complication best avoided. Dating is more investment than I am willing to put in for physical desire alone, and it would feel both manipulative and demeaning to jump through hoops for the sake of physical desire.
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Feb 13, 2015 00:46
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The internet wasn't invented within the last 7 years, bro.
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Feb 13, 2015 02:07
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i like nice words
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You can abstain from things and not be a teetotaler.
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Feb 13, 2015 04:26
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Random hook ups and getting wasted are part of courtly etiquette, is your red text lying?
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Feb 13, 2015 07:29
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I respect people who want to find a partner but not in a pub or club environment, I've never in my life walked up to a girl and said "can I buy you a drink", in my mind you'd be as well walking up to a prostitute and saying "can I pay you to have sex with me", at least that way you are being clear with your intentions.
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Feb 13, 2015 09:37
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Ramagamma posted:I respect people who want to find a partner but not in a pub or club environment, I've never in my life walked up to a girl and said "can I buy you a drink", in my mind you'd be as well walking up to a prostitute and saying "can I pay you to have sex with me", at least that way you are being clear with your intentions. You're a retarded person.
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Feb 13, 2015 19:34
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Ramagamma posted:I respect people who want to find a partner but not in a pub or club environment, I've never in my life walked up to a girl and said "can I buy you a drink", in my mind you'd be as well walking up to a prostitute and saying "can I pay you to have sex with me", at least that way you are being clear with your intentions. Here's the thing about that: many women want both drinks and sex, and will appreciate you buying them a drink, talking to them, and maybe having sex with them later! It's crazy, I know, but it turns out that women don't hate sex.
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Feb 13, 2015 20:08
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It is a ritual, you are unambiguously saying, "I'm interested" you then have s brief window to impress. There is no obligation beyond talking to you for a few seconds. People like drinks, people like sex.
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Feb 13, 2015 20:58
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PT6A posted:Here's the thing about that: many women want both drinks and sex, and will appreciate you buying them a drink, talking to them, and maybe having sex with them later! It's crazy, I know, but it turns out that women don't hate sex. Some people are intimidated by overly strong sexual advances, making or receiving. And some of those people, are men. Please try to be considerate.
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Feb 13, 2015 22:53
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New survey in the UK suggests binge drinking down and the number of teetotallers is more than 20%. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-31452735
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Feb 14, 2015 11:28
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Saga posted:Medical science has apparently now decided that there are no health benefits at all Can you link a few articles about this? I've done a bunch of reading and the consensus seems to be that a drink (or two max, for men) a day has a bunch of cardio-vascular benefits, increases good cholesterol and reduces risk of heart attack and stroke. Of course anything over that, and especially binge drinking, is quite bad for you.
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Feb 14, 2015 13:21
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Some alcoholic beverages contain beneficial compounds as well as ethyl alcohol. Red wine is one well known example, unfiltered beers are relatively high in vitamins. But the alcohol itself is pretty much just a mild poison, and grape juice or yeast supplements or whatever deliver the same health benefits without the mild poison along side. A person who drinks a moderate amount of lightly processed traditional red wine will receive health benefits from that that a person drinking an equal amount of alcohol through gin will not receive. But the person drinking must will receive as many or more benefits, without the toll on their liver.
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Feb 14, 2015 13:31
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Saltin posted:Can you link a few articles about this? I've done a bunch of reading and the consensus seems to be that a drink (or two max, for men) a day has a bunch of cardio-vascular benefits, increases good cholesterol and reduces risk of heart attack and stroke. Of course anything over that, and especially binge drinking, is quite bad for you. There's also a way to do this that's cheaper and doesn't kill your liver - pop a baby aspirin once a day
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Feb 15, 2015 04:59
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I don't think having a drink or two per day is going to mess your liver up too much but that's just me.
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Feb 15, 2015 23:24
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EugeneJ posted:There's also a way to do this that's cheaper and doesn't kill your liver - pop a baby aspirin once a day Don't take aspirin once a day, there's a pretty good chance (with respect to non-prescription drugs) of having a gut bleed and dying. If aspirin were released today, it would be a prescription, or not even allowed out of clinical trial.
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Feb 16, 2015 18:47
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Qwazes posted:Don't take aspirin once a day, there's a pretty good chance (with respect to non-prescription drugs) of having a gut bleed and dying. If aspirin were released today, it would be a prescription, or not even allowed out of clinical trial. And in terms of liver-wrecking properties, Tylenol is probably just as bad as drinking one or two drinks, yet you don't see many people abstaining from that completely on the basis of liver health. It's actually scary to see how many people will take a Tylenol to deal with a hangover-related headache -- that's just a bad idea all the way around.
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Feb 16, 2015 19:55
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EugeneJ posted:There's also a way to do this that's cheaper and doesn't kill your liver - pop a baby aspirin once a day A couple of drinks a day isn't going to kill your liver. Most North Americans should be more concerned about the amount of fructose/High fructose corn syrup they consume than the amount of alcohol they drink. Fructose is just as hard on your liver. "I ain't loving my liver up with no beer!" *downs another Coke*....
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Feb 19, 2015 15:44
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Saltin posted:A couple of drinks a day isn't going to kill your liver. Something an alcoholic would say
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Feb 19, 2015 18:04
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EugeneJ posted:Something an alcoholic would say No, pretty much every health authority in the world agrees that one or two drinks a day is not going to cause you any adverse health effects, although they generally recommend at least one day of complete abstention from alcohol. The liver is able to do its job without damaging itself, it's only when it gets overtaxed and you don't allow it to recover that it gets damaged. When "a couple" turns into 4 or more drinks, and you're doing it regularly, that's when your liver stops being really happy about it.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:38
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EugeneJ posted:Something an alcoholic would say I'm sorry I hurt your feelings with that Coke comment.
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Feb 19, 2015 18:56
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I can't believe nobody here abstains just to feel smarter.
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PT6A posted:No, pretty much every health authority in the world agrees that one or two drinks a day is not going to cause you any adverse health effects, although they generally recommend at least one day of complete abstention from alcohol. The liver is able to do its job without damaging itself, it's only when it gets overtaxed and you don't allow it to recover that it gets damaged. There is so much debate and uncertainty about this it is a bit deceptive to say this. Even the research that shows that alcohol may have a beneficial effect (and not all of them do) never exceed 1 standard unit a day and most are lower than that.
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